EPTI am very interested to play a bastard game. First time I think. But I got the feeling the real bastard part will be the host disappearing for 48 hours without notice.
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I am very interested to play a bastard game. First time I think. But I got the feeling the real bastard part will be the host disappearing for 48 hours without notice. | ||
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On December 14 2016 05:52 Shapelog wrote: I thought honestly more people would want to F*** the players over than be F***ed. And I would had to have a F***ing contest to see who would get to F***. This is a very interesting fact that I have learned today about the community of TL mafia. I watched the second season of Mr. Robot and all the FUCKS were censored. It triggered the fuck out of me each time. I am so triggered I get major upset just reading this comment. | ||
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I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time. We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. | ||
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analysis will come a lot later. | ||
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ExO town. Making bad assumptions and those more likely come from town. (I am demotivated, TiTr is from other site). If he is mafia he is doing a good job at bullshitting hard without it being obvious. His reaction to the "most lynchable" sentence of darth was really good. top town. Great post on Grack. Tip top town. Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He also keeps it up without really trying to discover the alignment of other players. Double mafia. Going soft after LS after his townie post about grack makes him tripple mafia. TT is town. Good posts + chill posting style. Great post on Superbia. LS is more likely town. + Show Spoiler + On December 27 2016 12:19 LightningStrike wrote: *yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game. Alakaslam good plynch. Also defended me for no reason at all. Disformation is looking extremely clueless. I am not sure if that makes him town or mafia not knowing wtf to do. GB could be town. Brought a new wave of information/game solving when entering thread. TiTr might be pushing mafia agenda calling a bunch of people town at the same time. Very bad thing to do, vary naive if he is town. darthfoley is looking at the right places with his lynch. I don't like the order yet so nullish. Also didn't dislike his previous posts, but don't love them either. tldr: 3 people are more likely town. GB/ExO and LS. | ||
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On December 28 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote: superbia good lynch ExO town. Making bad assumptions and those more likely come from town. (I am demotivated, TiTr is from other site). If he is mafia he is doing a good job at bullshitting hard without it being obvious. His reaction to the "most lynchable" sentence of darth was really good. top town. Great post on Grack. Tip top town. Grack coming in defending me is mafia. He also keeps it up without really trying to discover the alignment of other players. Double mafia. Going soft after LS after his townie post about grack makes him tripple mafia. TT is town. Good posts + chill posting style. Great post on Superbia. LS is more likely town. + Show Spoiler + On December 27 2016 12:19 LightningStrike wrote: *yawn* Everyone tries to make their scum game like their town game. Alakaslam good plynch. Also defended me for no reason at all. Disformation is looking extremely clueless. I am not sure if that makes him town or mafia not knowing wtf to do. GB could be town. Brought a new wave of information/game solving when entering thread. TiTr might be pushing mafia agenda calling a bunch of people town at the same time. Very bad thing to do, vary naive if he is town. darthfoley is looking at the right places with his lynch. I don't like the order yet so nullish. Also didn't dislike his previous posts, but don't love them either. tldr: 3 people are more likely town. GB/ExO and LS. Grack Disfo Slam TiTr Superbia darth GB TT ExO People calling ExO mafia should probably just unistall the game. Which for those people probably means unistall internet explorer. People who think Grack is town should do the same. While Chez tries to cheat himself towards an easy townread (probably on accident, I didn't read his post) Grack is making sure people are not townreading him by using argumentation only mafia can know. I don't know if he scumslipped there, but it looks horrible. That and the fact he is now on 25 posts doing absolutely nothing game solving. Quite amazing. My bad townread of Superbia boils down to the fact he is a boring townie interacting with the hosts because scumhunting isn't his forte anyway. lol. last part was a joke. or maybe not. Putting disformation also high on the scumlist. Still have no clue what he is doing, but everything he does looks forced and terrible. | ||
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On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. Also because people think LS is mafia. Look at the bolded. 5 words that town!LS uses more than mafia LS. town LS is trying to solve the game and has doubts. Mafia LS can't pretend to be solving the game and works with absolutes. | ||
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Grack Disfo Slam TiTr Superbia darth GB LS TT ExO | ||
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On December 28 2016 06:44 Superbia wrote: >:| I meant bored townie btw Not boring townie. As town you tend to annoy people to my amusement. | ||
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in 4 pages: I have no clue who he thinks is mafia. I have not seen him push the game forward. (aka brought new interesting topics to discuss with people) I have not seen him try to progress his own reads by asking somebody a question that would further his read on them. He scumreads LS, makes 2 posts on why he is mafia, and then doesn't mention him in the next 20 posts he makes. He townreads ExO when it is safe to do so, and then pushes that read onto people like he discovered that read. While he had nothing to say about ExO the entire game (before he hard townread him). Probably mafia. Will monitor if he picks up his play. | ||
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Nothing much changed. TT entered the thread and did absolutely nothing but buddy me up and waffle a bit. The most interesting thing was his role suggestion, read it three times, I don't understand it, I doubt he does. lol. Grack dismissing my case against him like a mafia would. Taking my points super literal and then weazle himself out of them using silly argumentation. Still mafia. Really liked the reaction from GB on disformation his post. Super townie. @GB: Do not get tunneled on ExO based on his opening and a reasoning you haven't even explained to the thread fully. He is not yet lock town, but for now he is not a correct lynch, his posting pushed the game forward by a lot, people who try to push the game forwardlook bad by default because they have to create something from nothing, most of the time you do that by posting reply bait comments, I really doubt mafia!ExO opened like he did here. You better go look for the prominent posters that are blending in doing completely nothing as town, or the afkers that are hiding their alignment. Kill those first. Grack Slam Chez TiTr Disfo TT Superbia darth LS GB ExO Slam and Chez are high on the lynchlist because both refuse to work with town. Easy lynches. Easy vig shots. Get rid of them. Grack is mafia. TiTr could already have pushed mafia agenda, has complained about things he shouldn't complain about, hasn't pushed the game further, has only 1 strong read which he adopted from thread sentiment. @TiTr, try to do things other than pretending to be one of those complaining muppets from the muppet show. You do not participate at the game unless forced. | ||
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On January 09 2017 16:31 ExO_ wrote: so darthfoley Koshi Superbia Time Traveler I think we should all lynch Koshi immediately, what do you think? Plebeians are always jealous and simply do not understand their place in the world. PS: It is at my feet. | ||
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Why? | ||
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lol there are 5 unique roles. dafuq is this. Nothing in my PM says I can't roleclaim. | ||
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On January 09 2017 19:45 Time Traveler wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. However we might have more interests than just lynching red depending on our role. Yes. You are a scrub. | ||
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Quite amazing to tell me nothing about the setup in a lovers game. Claiming 3p. I don't exactly know what happens when it is 2vs2 in the night. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:19 ExO_ wrote: Tell me what exactly it is you do in the night. I 100% believe you are 3p, but I wasn't aware we really had things that happened during the night I have no idea dude. I have no idea. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:21 ExO_ wrote: What makes you think it's a lovers game btw? It is obvious. | ||
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But you people are confirming to each other and knew there was something with my role pm. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:25 ExO_ wrote: either way idk what happens when we get down to a 2 vs 2 and tie. Guess we'll find out after you die Koshi, though I highly suspect it won't just go down this way.....actually the more I think about it the more it makes me nervous that you have some sort of secret ability  | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:28 ExO_ wrote: actually I had no idea about your role PM, I literally just tunneled you immediately knowing that you wouldn't be a good leader for our country. I know the only person who would be a good leader Yes. I know. It is obvious. You guys are confirming to each other. And you are doing that with 3 people. So the 4th will as well. The setup is broken. Maybe I am the jester or something. But also that doesn't make sense. Let's say I am "mafia". What is my gameplan? I counterclaim 1 pair? How stupid is that? It is a 50/50 and the pair I don't cc get a free win? And I didn't even get your role pms. So I didn't even had a clue it was pairs. I just had my role pm. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:31 Superbia wrote: I will buy your vote koshi Actually that is the only thing left in this game to do. You guys suck up to me and I let the pair win that I like the most. | ||
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But then the hosts should have told me that so I could also claim green. | ||
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That is the only real setup possibly left. That it in reality is 3 vs 2 | ||
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does not make any fucking sense. | ||
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Like.. what do you think this is? | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:48 Time Traveler wrote: You want the throne for you? Let me know what your role says. It doesn't matter what my role PM says. Because I can't win vs 2. Unless you think there is something in my role pm that makes me able to vigshot somebody but how retarded is that? Like can you claim being blue and that you need to "find" your blue partner? | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:51 Time Traveler wrote: So you fucked up lol I rarely do. Even without information I probably know more than you. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:52 Superbia wrote: This is literally a nightless game. I know. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:52 Superbia wrote: I'm pretty sure that whoever's side you choose today just wins. Or we lynch you and the game is super weird tomorrow. dnu. Seems like TiTr has another role pm than you an Exo. | ||
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How do I survive the next day? mafia / 1 solo guy his partner I just murdered / 2 guys who win together. | ||
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lolololol bastard game is real | ||
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So obvious now that I think of it. It's backstab into backstab. | ||
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It's pretty ridiculous. | ||
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On January 09 2017 20:50 Time Traveler wrote: Hmm... Not really sure. However, the game is not as you think. On January 09 2017 20:51 Time Traveler wrote: So you fucked up lol On January 09 2017 21:44 Time Traveler wrote: Koshi, stop bragging. You're just random hypothesis and assuming they are correct, so don't say you know more than me without even trying. That hurts my feelings  if you bite I bite back. | ||
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On January 10 2017 09:08 Time Traveler wrote: Also, claiming VT. Shocking | ||
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On January 10 2017 09:10 Time Traveler wrote: I wonder if all mafia will claim VT. They will. I think I might be ok with getting lynched btw. | ||
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On January 10 2017 09:12 Time Traveler wrote: Something that is really important and wasn't said is what happens with ties. pls gooby... As if this hosting team thinks these mini games through till D2. lol. | ||
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On January 10 2017 09:15 Time Traveler wrote: Well, I can think of lots of situations a 1 v 1 happens. Well there is only 1 situation. The other situation is 2 vs 2 | ||
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If town is lynched he needs to pick 2 mafia and it is 1 vs 1. If he doesn't game is RIP. | ||
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On January 10 2017 09:19 Time Traveler wrote: That can't happen. If a VT gets lynched, it must kil 2 mafia in order for the game to carry on. If a mafia gets lynched, 1 partner dies and one VT is confirmed as town, so that would be a 2 v 1, where the confirmed town has to be convinced by the VT and the mafia goon. ahh. Ok reading these OPs is something I should actually do more. | ||
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Ok. Vote me and I won't shoot you. | ||
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Kill, shoot, patato, potato | ||
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That is also a deal I am willing to make. | ||
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Pretty sure that is the correct play. | ||
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On January 10 2017 11:03 ExO_ wrote: Koshi trying to lynch himself immediately, and explaining it like that makes me think he's one of the mafia. and since I have a 75% chance of being right I think im all for lynching koshi. to say that he's okay letting somebody else be lynched is 100% mafia play. ##exile: koshi Great post tbh. It isn't true at all, but this is a great post. | ||
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On January 10 2017 17:26 Superbia wrote: But I won't spoil the fun just yet :D You know who you are Does he? | ||
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On January 10 2017 17:29 Superbia wrote: Yo koshi can you go over why you want to get lynched? Like the thought process The getting lynched bit was maybe a bit too much bravure. Finding 1 townie read is possibly easy so shooting 2 mafia extremely easy. But I didn't even understand the setup then so w.e. I honestly think we should lynch the second most townread person. At least the people who care to claim VT. If the most townread person is mafia, we lose, always. But if we lynch the scummiest person and he removes to top town person and the most scumread person next to him. Position 2 is dangerous. And we all know it is easier for a mafia to be position 2 over position 1 most likely. And if position 2 is town. There are 3 scummy fuckers under him he can shoot in. So nothing is lost. | ||
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On January 10 2017 17:40 Time Traveler wrote: Lol I'm just scared considering there's only one person else with good intentions. NO ONE WILL MANIPULATE ME what does this even mean? | ||
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Now if you people could do some stuff so I can become the universal most townread person that would be nice. | ||
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But the problem stays that the best looking mafia stays in the game and D2 is extra dangerous. | ||
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Are you a lad? | ||
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Hmm. I think there is a chance df and TiTr are mafia together from that earlier conversation. On January 10 2017 09:36 darthfoley wrote: I expect you to treat me with the same dignity and respect I so deserve This is a random sentence... A good townie should have put pressure on either me or TiTr. df just goes for some silly trolly thing with his friend TiTr So far so good for TiTr, even though the first sentence feels a lot like a mafia coming to the conclusion he needs to be "paranoid". Just read a bit awful but not definitive. On January 10 2017 09:39 Time Traveler wrote: Of course. You are all high standard people. This answer is pretty m33k again. Even in a normal setup I would be not liking this, but in this setup I hate it. | ||
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On January 10 2017 19:44 Time Traveler wrote: Good thing I'm not afraid of being lynched Because you figured the game out? Great. Please tell us who is town and who is mafia. | ||
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On January 10 2017 20:05 Time Traveler wrote: No, because I can't be lynched. Boom. You still need to learn a lot young padawan. | ||
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Well.... They are amusing. | ||
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On January 10 2017 23:33 Superbia wrote: If that is true then why are you taking 0 steps as to finding that person? Maybe we can be friends. | ||
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If you are town or pretending to be town go vote superbia and proof you are town to me D2. Superbia if you are town go shoot not Koshi. If you feel the urge to shoot Koshi ask me things. I will not be online after this deadline If I am somehow still lynched I will pick 2 people that voted me. ##unvote ##vote Superbia | ||
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wp to the mafia team. | ||
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On January 14 2017 09:52 Grackaroni wrote: lol I knew it was you yelling about me in the obs QT. Literally every QT I could find. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:03 beentheredonethat wrote: So, disformation, sorry for hardcore tilting you D1. Koshi, sorry for basically lynching you D1. lol. nha it was great. You did it without even raising my suspicion. wp | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:15 LightningStrike wrote: Also inB4 People give me crap about btdt EoD1 when I said his lynch would provide no info regardless of alignment. nha that point was 100% correct. But you would have lynched mafia | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:16 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I taking a 2 month break from TL Mafia unless some of you guys actually want to play with me during my self impose hiatus for stuff I did in the game. loooool... The people that care about not getting yelled at I already scared away. lol. It was all fine. And I think town!Grack made a case that you were faking it so it didn't even help you. | ||
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I thought you were town and you were being pants on head. But you were mafia and played great. | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:24 Grackaroni wrote: Can confirm.  Whatever happened to Rayn? no I didn't scare away rayn at all!! | ||
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On January 14 2017 10:26 Grackaroni wrote: Do you think he's going to come back ever? I asked him to play couple months back but he was too busy. Try to PM him! He is still around. | ||
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Really well hosted. Thx for game. | ||
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What I want to say it that due to saying it is a "bastard" game you did yourself short because it was in a way equal to for example Palmar his game last time. That game was even way flashier. | ||
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On January 15 2017 13:25 cakepie wrote: I beg to differ, the Ouija polls were intended to be balanced around an even mix of 20% scum fabricated result 20% (live+dead) scum votes 30% dead town votes 10% obs votes 20% host votes (which we used for troll and anti-swing) However, in practice: In the first poll, scum team completely missed the fact that they had both a fabricated result to send as well as actual votes -- which should hint to them quite clearly that some kind of mixture of results is going to happen. So btdt only submitted a (poorly) manipulated 3,2,1,2,3 result and none of the scum voted. The results turned out to be combination of 25% scum fabricated result 37.5% Koshi 12.5% HtS 25% hosts In the second poll, scum team failed to send a fabricated result, and only chez sent in a vote. Also there was no obs participation, and deadchat just sheeped Koshi. The results were combination of 28.57% Chez 42.86% Koshi and co. 28.57% hosts tl;dr: Actual polling figures are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_iy532vaAVXG73tdb9LfOzx1JA_gek1mGZjTrDbCZCA That's what I said in #3389 -- we should not have promoted/sold this game as "bastard" -- it really wasn't, but we made a big deal out of it in pregame to grab attention. In hindsight this was not a good idea since it undermined the ability of players to reason about the game. Well you exactly prove my initial point that this is not a bastard game and you hosted it beautifully  . Even the unbalanced looking things were balanced. | ||
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