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Grackaroni
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cakepie
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Vote Count Alakaslam (3) : Grackaroni, darthfoley, Chezinu Grackaroni (1) : LightningStrike Not voting (7) : Alakaslam, beentheredonethat, disformation, ExO_, GlowingBear, Tictock, Time Traveler The day phase will end at Thursday, Jan 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 40 hours from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread. If you see any vote out of place, let us know! | ||
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Chezinu
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On January 03 2017 16:37 Grackaroni wrote: Chezinu save yourself! :'( Gracky.. I no hop on you and repeat them words with another name.. It is ok... I have survived many nukes in the past... One time a nuke came after me and it was bussed to someone else before day ended and I lived. Another time a nuke came after me and it was a dud. I DON'T WANNA GET NUKED!!!! ##Anti-Nuke save the chez.. nuke the... | ||
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Chezinu
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In the past, some missed the guide: On March 05 2013 08:07 GreYMisT wrote: I attempted to recreate House Chezinu in aperture mafia. If only this post was made earlier so I had more to go on! Because of this.. I want to make sure this is available. In case... I won't be here... :'( Be Strong. Be Brown. Be a .... On March 03 2013 12:08 Chezinu wrote: House of Chezinu Weclome to the House of Chez! There are many schools of thought on how one must play the game of mafia. This thread will serve to establish the school of thought founded by Chezinu Isunizehc. Here one may post questions or scenarios to understand how the school would approach or solve a problem. Below I will summarize building blocks that this school of thought is built upon. As the topic is discussed, the content will be updated and modified for clarity I. The Unreadable Persona The importance of creating an unreadable persona is to protect your character from getting killed early game by people who can see right through you. If you live longer, you have more time to read other players and strategize. II. Reaction Reading The school’s primary methods of discovering a player’s role is through reaction reading. The most efficient technique is through private messaging where you can loosen the guard of your victim. You do this in fun. You start to make jokes and troll around to not only prevent the victim from reading you but to also cause their guard to be lowered. If they think you are just having a grand ole time, they will not be working hard to cover their face. That is when you ask strange and seemingly unrelated questions to get a read. There are many factors to consider when analyzing their reaction including their current mood, your relationship, thread events, and their mind. If private messages are not allowed, you will have to cause chaos in the thread in order to read this. This strategy may cause some dislike which will have to be combated by entertainment, which will be discussed in detailed later. Creating a fantasy world that includes the current events of the game is a great way to attract certain players. If you create a world where you hire employees, mafia may apply for jobs to either get inside information or to pose as a resourceful townie. It gives them an opportunity to post something in the thread if they don’t have anything productive to say. Reaction reading is also a great time to scare the mafia through taunts by claiming you know their roles both publically and privately. Let them know, that you know even if you do not. Also, act confident and pretend you are protected by a medic. This fluff will save you. III. Communicating Reads Unscathed The best method is to communicate your reads to a player whom you think is town. This way they can convince town to lynch your targets without you talking heat from mafia or town. Plus, they will trust for being selected to receive your reads. If private messages are allowed, you can simply explain your reads clearly to the recipient. If you cannot message them privately, you will have to find alternative means by posting in the thread without alerting other players. Encryption, code words, stories, stereograms, and riddles are of the most useful methods to portray one's reads without bringing too much attention to oneself (just make sure the recipient can understand the content of these messages). The attention these techniques will bring will be focused on your character and personality. Most people will just ignore the content of your posts and call the useless. However, whether one should use these techniques depends on the atmosphere of the game, which brings us to the next point. IV. Dynamics of the Game The game is always changing. The same strategy may not work twice. One must be flexible enough to adjust behavior in order to survive the maximum length of days. Studying the behavior of the players both in and out of the game is of utmost importance. You must monitor the atmosphere of the game to make sure your actions do not break the boundaries of the players or the host. V. Relationships Building great relationships with other players will further your lifespan. For it is easier to lynch a stranger than those closest to you. Be sure not to come across as a flatter. Bad guys do that. Be honest. If you truly <3 someone, let them know. It is ok to let someone know if they make you sad. Be real. Don’t get angry. Only pretend to be angry if it is funny. Be humorous. If you are entertaining the crowd, they will not want to see you leave. For the sole purpose of playing the game initially for most players is to have fun. Be fun. If successful, not only will you live longer, but the atmosphere of the game will change for the better (see point IV). Forming relationship will also help you enjoy your time during breaks when you are isolated in your room with no one to talk to. If you find yourself bored and lonely, you can create a thread like this (or interact in one) in order to prepare for your next upcoming game. For you know that when you leave, the threads will die and be bored without your entertainment. VI. Loop-hole Galore Once the game has started, it is good to read your role or the op at some point. When one does this is up to their own discretion. When looking at roles or the op, try to find loop holes. Strategies the host does not expect. You may find some powers that you can exploit. When in a crisis, always double check your roles and rules of the game to ensure there is a way out. You may find an unexpected role that can bus you out of a situation or find that you have an unlimited amount of ammo. However, the success of this method depends on the host (point IV). If your host is a rule follower, you will get bussed and be saved. If you host is a spirit follower, you may find yourself out of bullets. You must use caution and not let your creative mind bring you too much hope in a deadly hour. VII. Style before Victory Winning is not always easy. Winning with style is harder yet. Before you win a game, you must ask yourself. How do I want to win this? You want to be remembered for the fun you bring to the games and the style in which you win them. Winning the game as lurker is no fun at all, especially when you are mafia. Most of town will not remember that it was you who caused their demise, unless you send them the right message such as spelling GOSU with your night kills and sniping all of the blues roles. However, you must not limit your style to secrets. The reward of winning tastes so much better if you fool the town as one of the most active members. Be creative. Create your own theme if appropriate (point IV) or latch on to another’s, they will appreciate the addition to their fantasy (point V). | ||
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Grackaroni
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On January 03 2017 17:17 Chezinu wrote: :'( Gracky.. I no hop on you and repeat them words with another name.. It is ok... I have survived many nukes in the past... One time a nuke came after me and it was bussed to someone else before day ended and I lived. Another time a nuke came after me and it was a dud. I DON'T WANNA GET NUKED!!!! ##Anti-Nuke save the chez.. nuke the... Don't worry Chezinu. I have recently consumed a potion. They told me, Grackaroni, this is not for drinking purposes! But I said, "No, I must drinks it." I can feel the strength coursing through my veins. So grand are my powers. But I must wait for tomorrow to unveil my burgeoning strength. Right now we must seek a scientific solution. I'll be in the chamber of understanding. ![[image loading]](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/391/4827732266_0b3748f8df.jpg){kind=icon} | ||
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Chezinu
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OH GREAT HOSTS!!! HAS MERCY ON THIS MAN!!!! OI THANK YOU FOR THE SEEDS YOU HAVE GAVE ME!!! I THANK YOU FOR FULFILLING MY DESIRES!!! NOW I ASK OF ANOTHER SEED!!! MAKE A NEW PAINT ONE WHERE THE NUKE BLOWS UP IN THE SKY!!! NOT NEAR THE CHEZ!!! IF CHEZ IS IN THE SKY LET HIM BE IN ANOTHER SKY NOT IN OR BY THE NUKE!!!! SAVE YOU FAVORITE CHARACTER!! LET HIM SOW HIS SEEDS!!! | ||
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disformation
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On January 03 2017 09:49 LightningStrike wrote: I will double check his filter if he did scumread df before his death. On January 03 2017 09:54 LightningStrike wrote: I can confirm what you said about Superbia scumreading df before his death disformation he kpet questioning why people were townreading him. I kinda like that he went and double checked and didnt blindly trust me. implies he doesnt know my alignment. not too hard to fake, but I want to give him half a townie brownie. On January 03 2017 11:03 Grackaroni wrote: I'm being pressured to analyze things by forces unknown. These reads are really shallow, inconsistent, and scummy. For one thing, I tried to start multiple wagons during the end of the day. A wagon on LS didn't take because other people wanted Koshi. I think there might be reasons for that but maybe I'm wrong. Looking at only the final vote count to see who tried to push forward a lynch is a total distortion of what happened during the end of the day. Also, the only people that "jumped onto a wagon for easy sheepy reasons" are the people that Disfo has written off because they did it for "consolidation." I'm also at a general loss for how he ignores that I tried to lynch his #2 scum read at the end of the day. What more could I have possibly done to make myself townie? Didnt like this post at all. Calls all my reads garbage (discredit attempt noted) and then 99% of his complaints are essentially complaining about me misrepresenting him. Then he doesnt vote me. I did look at the progression of votes in my other posts. For the evaluation of the timeline when ppl ended up voting for koshi you obv only look at the votes that stayed on koshi. Also don't get the complain about writing of GB and me... Not doing VCA on me, I already know my alignment + Show Spoiler + town GB wasnt there at _all_. No idea what info I should get there. Yeah, I wish I had gained some better/more concrete results from all my posts, but thats what I got. At least Grack probably isn't scum with LS. Or the other way around for that matter. Also: On January 03 2017 09:01 disformation wrote: for btdt there is the question why he was so against lynching LS and for darth why he went from lynching into the nulls into lynching ls/koshi. I want these ppl to actually say something about that. | ||
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Vote Count Koshi (7) : Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, LightningStrike (1) : darthfoley (1) : Superbia Superbia (1) : Alakaslam (0) : beentheredonethat (0) : Chezinu (0) : disformation (0) : ExO_ (0) : Tictock (0) : Not voting (1) : Alakaslam | ||
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Grackaroni
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Here is our secret symbol: ![[image loading]](http://images.clipartpanda.com/circle-clipart-light-brown-circle-md.png) To start your initiation, you must send the image to me via paper plane. Otherwise, I won't be able to know that it is you. Intruders are dealt with most harshly. Once the first step is completed, I will consult further with the gatekeepers. Of course, there are a few strings that I must pull. Sacrifices must be made to extend such an invitation. But If this is anything like the Palmar game, I believe I can make this happen. | ||
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Grackaroni
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disformation
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Grackaroni
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On January 03 2017 17:58 disformation wrote: meanwhile on the grack vs ls front: I kinda like that he went and double checked and didnt blindly trust me. implies he doesnt know my alignment. not too hard to fake, but I want to give him half a townie brownie. Didnt like this post at all. Calls all my reads garbage (discredit attempt noted) and then 99% of his complaints are essentially complaining about me misrepresenting him. Then he doesnt vote me. I did look at the progression of votes in my other posts. For the evaluation of the timeline when ppl ended up voting for koshi you obv only look at the votes that stayed on koshi. Also don't get the complain about writing of GB and me... Not doing VCA on me, I already know my alignment + Show Spoiler + town GB wasnt there at _all_. No idea what info I should get there. Yeah, I wish I had gained some better/more concrete results from all my posts, but thats what I got. At least Grack probably isn't scum with LS. Or the other way around for that matter. Also: I want these ppl to actually say something about that. You keep trying to find these little things to defend LS. Every time he's come online so far he's looked to me like he was about to shit himself. The GB/You thing isn't about my thoughts on people I was questioning your logic. Here's what you wrote in the post: These 3 people are town because they tried to start a wagon. The people we need to be looking at are these four people that voted for sheepy reasons. GB and I voted to consolidate, so no info there. Grack originally started the wagon but then he wanted a different wagon on my #2 scum read. He seems like a sheep. This is the best vote imo. So yeah, I'm calling the post garbage. | ||
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disformation
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On January 03 2017 18:24 Grackaroni wrote: You keep trying to find these little things to defend LS. Every time he's come online so far he's looked to me like he was about to shit himself. The GB/You thing isn't about my thoughts on people I was questioning your logic. Here's what you wrote in the post: These 3 people are town because they tried to start a wagon. The people we need to be looking at are these four people that voted for sheepy reasons. GB and I voted to consolidate, so no info there. Grack originally started the wagon but then he wanted a different wagon on my #2 scum read. He seems like a sheep. This is the best vote imo. So yeah, I'm calling the post garbage. Thats not what I wrote in that post at all. ##vote grack | ||
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Grackaroni
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Grackaroni
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On January 03 2017 09:01 disformation wrote: timeline VCA addendum for timeline. Koshi (7) : ExO_, Chezinu, darthfoley, beentheredonethat, GlowingBear, Grackaroni, disformation Okay. So the idea is that scum is less likely to start/open a new wagon, but rather hops onto a wagon for easy/sheepy reasons. Since there was no counter wagon and only wagons with 2-3 ppl, I'd say that means the first 3 ppl are slightly less likely to be scum. Overall there are 1-2 scum on that wagon. So tldr: I am pretty sure there is 1+ scummer in btdt, gb, grack, me out of these four grack looks the worst (to me), as I already explained (yes he basically invented the wagon, but he also had to be basically reminded to vote koshi, as he was supposed to be according to what he said/did D1). gb and me just hopped on at the very end for consolidation. doesnt actually give a lot of info, esp on GB who was afk leading up to EoD. chez also had a really suspect reason to vote koshi, but at least he did so fairly early. for btdt there is the question why he was so against lynching LS and for darth why he went from lynching into the nulls into lynching ls/koshi. | ||
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Grackaroni
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disformation
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Scum more likely in btdt, gb, grack, me. You look the worst, as I already explained. The brackets try to explain why you dont get cred. for "inventing" the koshi wagon. I'm town. Yes, GB looks more scummy for the timing, but he was legit afk as fuck, making that line of argument pretty NAI. I still want btdt to answer my question. Though maybe I was cutting him too much of a slack. He was strangely confident in koshi being scum, after just coming in and playing for like an hour. | ||
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Time Traveler
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![[image loading]](https://s28.postimg.org/fius0uopp/ribbon_weather.png) This game has gone from 0 to 10000 pretty fast. Also, having to put the ribbon while in mobile is annoying. | ||
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