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On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:
I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.
I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.
The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:
Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.
Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.
Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.
This is so bad. This martiring won't get you through this lynch. You're saying you can't defend yourself 'cause you're attacked whatever thing you chose to do; well, you could defend yourself by pointing out WHY other people are scummy.
In this very post you admit that your OMGUS was bad; that after re evaluating you think one of DF / Skynx / Rels are probably scum; THEN you go on "lynch TT and Rels 'cause they should know better than pushing me" which is the FUCKING DEFINITION OF OMGUS.
The last time you've stated reasons for your reads was your NU read yesterday. Since then it has been either OMGUS or filter size.
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On November 05 2016 01:21 Skynx wrote:
I mean Exo did some bad stuff guys, as i quoted previous page.
However, can someone please give me some solid arguments that makes him objective scum like TT and NU?
Other than him being defensive all the time which is not even a reason anymore and makes sense as everyone is scumreading him.
- has claimed that his aggression towards Calix at the beginning of the game was fake and just here to provoke reaction, which is something scum always say to explain themselves out of a bad push
- has forgotten that he wanted to attack NU and foreman during his sleep and went to attack TT with no reasonning
- has forgotten he liked Skynx and listed him as potential scum
- has only posted to defend himself yesterday, when Calix intervened to give him some breathing room, he just disappeared instead of doing stuff
- martyring, admitting the OMGUS was bad, then OMGUSING some more in the next paragraph (TT and Rels should know better!)
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On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ?
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On November 05 2016 02:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Skynx's play this game reminds me of this quote from disformation on how to play as mafia: "just posts tons of words. dump a wot in thread now and then, nobody will read them and think you are town for the effort. "
That's also my feeling about him
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On November 05 2016 02:05 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:49 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:
I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.
I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.
The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:
Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.
Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.
Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window. This is so bad. This martiring won't get you through this lynch. You're saying you can't defend yourself 'cause you're attacked whatever thing you chose to do; well, you could defend yourself by pointing out WHY other people are scummy. In this very post you admit that your OMGUS was bad; that after re evaluating you think one of DF / Skynx / Rels are probably scum; THEN you go on "lynch TT and Rels 'cause they should know better than pushing me" which is the FUCKING DEFINITION OF OMGUS. The last time you've stated reasons for your reads was your NU read yesterday. Since then it has been either OMGUS or filter size. Perhaps you should consider that it's very difficult to make accurate reads right now when everyone is scum reading me and on my wagon. It's hard for me to not be OMGUS when everyone is voting for me, is it not? That said, I think both you and TT are pushing me here past what makes sense. Especially the way TT came back into the thread last night and ignored the progression of my posts to make a point. He strung a bunch of posts together that were very far apart to make me look horrible. either way I think at least one of you two should know better. Which makes me think at least one of you is scum. This isn't OMGUS, this is my honest thoughts.
It's not OMGUS if you have reason other than just "they are voting for me they are scum".
But that is your reasonning.
On November 05 2016 02:06 ExO_ wrote:
All these people suddenly "town-leaning" me as the deadline approaches, yet nobody is attempting to move the wagon at all.
cmon, what does that look like. Do you really believe that this kind of thing happens if I'm scum?
Yep a wagon being unnilateral doesn't mean shit, especailly since in this game you have only 1 mate. In the last towngame I've played there was only 1 serios wagon during D1 and he flipped scum.
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Now I know that it is super annoying to play as town when everybody is scumreading you. I know you're having a bad town if you're town. But I think you're scum.
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On November 05 2016 02:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Summary
Very town: mahg
Townlean: Exo, Calix
Not read at all: darth
Bad but not thoroughly read:Foreman
Nullish cuz neither town nor scum but bad: Rels
Scum: TT, NU
I pushed mahg earlier, his respons I liked. His lists later on I liked. He's not overly spammy. He's the most town imo.
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
This to me looks like white-knighting. He gives a reason that I don't think warrants a town-read. I'm inclined to think that ExO is town and Skynx is scum with both their latest posts in mind.
I agree that Skynx townread of ExO is weird as hell. But I don't agree that we can say anything about ExO from Skynx' townread. If Skynx is scum he knows fully well how his attitude looks like, so it's WIFOM to conclude anything from it.
Like, it's not like Skynx would become confirmed town if ExO flipped town.
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Skynx:
On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ?
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On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:Skynx: On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ? Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on.
That doesn't make sense. How he was extremely defensive for nothing and attacking his pushers instead of their arguments is why he got heat in the first place.
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On November 05 2016 02:29 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:27 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:Skynx: On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ? Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on. That doesn't make sense. How he was extremely defensive for nothing and attacking his pushers instead of their arguments is why he got heat in the first place. Not for nothing. Pushes were bad so he counter pushed. That makes sense. He cannot do that as scum less than an hour into the game cuz those ppl can turn out townie and that would look bad on him.
You're saying these posts are townie ?
On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. ![[image loading]](http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/neko_riddles/Fighting_Over_Marisa_From_Touhou_Pr.gif) So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif? Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment
On November 03 2016 03:15 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:12 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif? Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment Please point me to where I 'attempted to get you to revert to gif posting only' if you'd be so kind. You'll note that I specifically said 'I'm glad you are not posting in gifs' (which you then responded to...with a gif...instead of a response) And yes, it's illogical for town to claim a role and then post a gif in lieu of a coherent response. If you were actually happy I wasn't posting gifs, why would you bring up the fact that I said I would post primarily gifs? I think any reasonable person realizes that's much more likely to get me to post gifs, than to offer an explanation that will ultimately be irrelevant to the game. You brought it up in the hopes that I would stick to my word and posts only gifs, instead of helping town. You are scum ##vote Calix
On November 03 2016 03:25 ExO_ wrote:
What about my response is overly defensive? I'm pointing out that essentially reminding me I promised to "post gifs" Isn't going to help town in any way. Furthermore, its not something a reasonable person would think would help town.
Assuming for a second I took the time to answer Calix's question about why I didn't just post gifs: How does that help town? My explanation doesn't help town at all, nor would it be expected to help town. However a reasonably expectable reaction to Calix's question would be for me to start posting gifs again.
So long story short, I think Calix posted that in the hopes I would post gifs more and not help town
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On November 05 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:
dont calix. skynx is town, trust him. you and him are the most town
Why ?
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On November 05 2016 02:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:41 Skynx wrote:On November 05 2016 02:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 02:39 Skynx wrote:On November 05 2016 02:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 02:37 Tictock wrote:On November 05 2016 02:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 02:34 Tictock wrote:On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.
They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town. I genuinely think this is a very town response... ... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read. CFD Skynx imo. I disagree. Exo is still the best lynch. Every single one of his posts has just been him trying to survive the day, this one included. That's not scum AI. I would not want to be lynched either if I had this many votes. So then it's NAI. Why would you townread him then? His tone feels right. What a hero distancing himself from the lynch. Guys please wake the fuck up. What are you doing atm? lmao Yeah I almost forgot, thank you for reminding.
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##Vote: NeverUnlucky I was saying that what you are doing is distancing yourself from the lynch. I have cold feet about this ExO lynch. What are everyone's strongest scum-reads and why?
ExO reasons 1 2
darthfoley reasons 1 2
Skynx reasons + his weird exo townread
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On November 05 2016 02:45 ExO_ wrote:
Okay I'm back home I'm going to try to type things out as fast as I can.
CALIX listen to me. Skynx is town. There is no way he comes in and town reads me at EoD as scum. It's too risky. You two need to lead the town here
That is pretty false. Scum do this kind of thing all the time. It doesn't mean anything
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On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town
I'm tired of seeing this. I only started pushing you as my main scumread a few hours ago. You even scumread me for not having a strong scumread on you yesterday.
That makes another thing that is not consistent with your reads actually. I'm having doubts but I think you'll flip scum. I don't think i'll shennannie.
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On November 05 2016 02:57 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:56 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town I'm tired of seeing this. I only started pushing you as my main scumread a few hours ago. You even scumread me for not having a strong scumread on you yesterday. That makes another thing that is not consistent with your reads actually. I'm having doubts but I think you'll flip scum. I don't think i'll shennannie. again, distancing himself just like TT. Look very very very closely att TT/rels. they're both experienced and they both should've known this was a bad lynch.
If you're town, you can go fuck yourself.
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On November 05 2016 02:59 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:59 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:57 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:56 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:53 ExO_ wrote:On November 05 2016 02:50 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:
Calix/Skynx any questions you have please ask me, before I flip as town please ask now. I will try my best to answer quickly. I'm 100% sure you two are town and the people like NU trying to discredit Skynx are almost certainly going to be scum Yeah, can you please summarise/ conclude your reads in one post? I think that would help people see what your reads were. You can even just cobble your previous posts into one since you have 10 minutes left. This is something I'm not very good at. a lot of my reads I base on what I think, and researching specific examples is hard. I think out of TT/Rels/NU there is at least 1 scum. Maybe 2. TT or rels should have known better than to let this lynch go down like it did, and instead both pushed it hard. I would look at them heavily. NU's game has just been really bad all around, hard to say if its because he's bad or because he's scum though. I didn't like the way mahgrell played, and the way he's afk now but I think he's something to look at after the top 3. DF is townier than mahgrell. Foreman is angry town I'm tired of seeing this. I only started pushing you as my main scumread a few hours ago. You even scumread me for not having a strong scumread on you yesterday. That makes another thing that is not consistent with your reads actually. I'm having doubts but I think you'll flip scum. I don't think i'll shennannie. again, distancing himself just like TT. Look very very very closely att TT/rels. they're both experienced and they both should've known this was a bad lynch. If you're town, you can go fuck yourself. I feel like this is unnecessarily aggressive as a response. What about ExO's post was that objectionable?
The whole idea that I have 0 reason to push him and that I'm bad and should know better
fuck you exo
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I was tilted after the lynch, its better now. Sorry exo for the insults.
I had a busy weekend, will be here in a few hours
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On November 07 2016 07:43 Skynx wrote:
Reasons Exo was 100% town at that point:
1) retaliation for right reasons
2) there is only 1 wagon which formed very quickly with half the voters sheeping.
3) meta cuz I just left a scumgame with exo as partner and it was totally different.
I did bring up all these points before the lynch and they were quickly thrown under the rug for whatever reason.
I could try to bring up a shennanie but only NU was willing and hihihi guess what, he's not gona go on TT. The point of my whole Exo defence was to bring out TT/NU.
Your reason to townread ExO are too perfect. When I pushed you during EOD to explain them you even admitted it:
On November 05 2016 02:36 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:32 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:29 Skynx wrote:On November 05 2016 02:27 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:On November 05 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:Skynx: On November 05 2016 01:59 Rels wrote:On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
Why is it a towntell ? If you think he would do that as town, what would he do as scum ? Blatant ridiculing of pushes cuz they are weak as fuck. He cannot instantly push them back as scum cuz he already has the information and he doesn't know yet how those people gona turn out later on so he cannot aford to take heat on himself early on. That doesn't make sense. How he was extremely defensive for nothing and attacking his pushers instead of their arguments is why he got heat in the first place. Not for nothing. Pushes were bad so he counter pushed. That makes sense. He cannot do that as scum less than an hour into the game cuz those ppl can turn out townie and that would look bad on him. You're saying these posts are townie ? On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif? Give me a break. If anything y our attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment On November 03 2016 03:15 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:12 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.
ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind. So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do. You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif? Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment Please point me to where I 'attempted to get you to revert to gif posting only' if you'd be so kind. You'll note that I specifically said 'I'm glad you are not posting in gifs' (which you then responded to...with a gif...instead of a response) And yes, it's illogical for town to claim a role and then post a gif in lieu of a coherent response. If you were actually happy I wasn't posting gifs, why would you bring up the fact that I said I would post primarily gifs? I think any reasonable person realizes that's much more likely to get me to post gifs, than to offer an explanation that will ultimately be irrelevant to the game. You brought it up in the hopes that I would stick to my word and posts only gifs, instead of helping town. You are scum ##vote Calix On November 03 2016 03:25 ExO_ wrote:
What about my response is overly defensive? I'm pointing out that essentially reminding me I promised to "post gifs" Isn't going to help town in any way. Furthermore, its not something a reasonable person would think would help town.
Assuming for a second I took the time to answer Calix's question about why I didn't just post gifs: How does that help town? My explanation doesn't help town at all, nor would it be expected to help town. However a reasonably expectable reaction to Calix's question would be for me to start posting gifs again.
So long story short, I think Calix posted that in the hopes I would post gifs more and not help town bolded is town. rest is bad but I can't really do anything about it. Its the same with him saying he did it to get reactions out.
Yet you continued all EOD with this weird certainty that ExO was town. It doesn't make sense. Before you decided ExO had to be confirmed town, you had these thoughts about him:
On November 05 2016 00:28 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 04:30 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 04:18 Calix wrote:
Reasoning? I didn't like his filter and trust skynx Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote:
Darthfoley/Skynk have the shortest filters and might be good places to look as well. Going off filter length NU/Calix shouldn't be scum because they are so far and above everyone else. I'd find it hard to be posting that much as scum What a turnaround in just a few hours.
On November 05 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Exo's retaliation is a towntell from my perspective as he's been sr'd by almost everyone in the game, some of which for very bad reasons or no reasons at all. Its his right to retaliate. However not much arguments otherise, he's just been defending all game, I've been in this situation and can sympathise.
The 100%town read that followed during EOD is not understandable from a town POV. The 3 reasons you list are so vague, you never used a single post of him to defend him. I think you just decided you would defend him and didn't execute it well. It's not natural.
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I'm caught up and I want to lynch Skynx. I think Foreman is scum with Skynx, with a slight possibility of Calix.
##Vote Skynx
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