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On November 29 2016 08:03 Onegu wrote: That has LoL in it #unvote #vote: LightningStrike He just scum claimed for real posting that here. You so funny I will just take it as a joke vote ^_^ | ||
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On November 29 2016 08:27 emperorchampion wrote: Heyo! I think your last game might have been my last also? Anyhoo, yeah it seems pretty jokey. The lol thing might be taking it a bit tooo far, but idk yet. Never played with onegu before, but from what I've heard I am now supposed to read him based on meta. I'm willing to throw some town points at Gu, singular, for the clown face smiley he posted tho Onegu just hates LoL because he's a dota 2 player that's all lol. | ||
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On November 29 2016 08:51 Koshi wrote: I am awesome like always. Rolled 4 times mafia in a row, won 3 times, lost last game in a last second lynch or I would won as well. But nothing compares to be able to play town and find mafia. I didn't play town for something like 5 months or longer. I am finally excited again. Great feeling. I missed you LS. What have you been up to? Cool I wish I could win more as scum honestly but the last time I triharded as scum my team shit the bucket except for Damdred I been going to college (Still am but it getting close to the end of semester which gives me more time to play TL Mafia) that was all. | ||
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On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote: Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons! ^ | ||
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On November 29 2016 08:59 Koshi wrote: Town has been bleeding entire 2016. Couple great wins but abysmal record. Let's all just be supertownie and take this one ezpz. If you are town we will have the game solved for us no problem just trust me like you did in tortoise ;D | ||
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Obviously you didn't read that game TLDR of that game: I lead a lynch on scum DYH about 30 minutes to 1 hour before deadline Day 2 and I got killed there. | ||
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Stole the words out of my mouth lmao. | ||
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On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote: How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt. Also, this is a town post, mang Sorry to tell you this but scum can make that post you quoted that makes Onegu town hence it just a null comment. | ||
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On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote: Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. I normally do summarize stuff at the start if I wasn't there at the very start? No worries though yo unever played with me obviously so Iwill give you a pass unless you did check my meta. | ||
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On November 29 2016 09:35 Onegu wrote: Lies that is the most town post in this game! Last gif to lazy and to old This was you making the post: | ||
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On November 29 2016 09:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: Fair enough. Though in regards to 2), wouldn't you say your earlier posts about how town'll play the game to be tryhard albeit a bit trollsome with the awesome part? They kindda set the tone for a tryhard game is what I'm trying to say. "Scum can make [this type of posts]" can be said of any post. Unless you can quote a scummer saying this type of thing, my point stands. Let me find a post from scum that did that type of post although at a different timing I know I saw plenty of those in my days of playing. | ||
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On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote: Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up? Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for. | ||
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On November 29 2016 09:47 Onegu wrote: No where near the same thing LS I said hey where is everyone you said Hi Im here now.... Context of the post: at the time there wasn't posting in the thread except OWS except 5 mins before that post. | ||
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On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote: Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe. Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it. Also, no, I have not read any of your games. All scum games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D3 First Ever scum game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Goon Survived N3 (won) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike Witch Hunter Lynched D1 Some Town games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike Cop Survived D4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Survived D4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=LightningStrike Pope killed N3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Wandering Townie Killed N5 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Killed N2 Best game for me. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:01 Tictock wrote: I was moreso pointing out the hypocrasy in his calling Onegu tryhard yet being fairly tryhard himself than calling Koshi scum. But you are not wrong. Scum!koshi would prob have a rough time keeping it up 5 games in a row. Unless... OMG this made me laugh my ass off. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:05 LightningStrike wrote: All scum games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D3 First Ever scum game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Goon Survived N3 (won) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D2 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike Witch Hunter Lynched D1 Some Town games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike Cop Survived D4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Survived D4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=LightningStrike Pope killed N3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Wandering Townie Killed N5 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Killed N2 Best game for me. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503886-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-cell-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Forgot this was my best scum game. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:07 darthfoley wrote: Howdy y'all I decree that no one is allowed to town read LS for random shit capslock posts. Throwback to the cell mafia game; still a little salty about that. slight town lead on NU/Koshi/mahrgell. I agreed with NU's point on LS in that it seemed a bit forced; don't understand the need to clarify when you last played. Koshi's intro play seems standard town and similar to the one game I've played with him. mahrgell's entrance reminds me of his town play last game. Don't like emperor so far. Filter complete shite, though it's pretty early game. Same for siclucker; reminds me a bit of his cell mafia play early on iirc. I generally don't like trolly playstyles, so not sure what to make of Onegu so far. At least he's active. I sorry that Damdred told me break that meta man I felt so guilty honestly and still a bit lost on trying to find a new town style. I am town this game so no need to worry I will carry us. Also since you are here what other thoughts you got? | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:09 darthfoley wrote: Also don't get great vibes from LS. Seems like he's a bit too ready to defend with previous games links and scum entrances-- like stemming the criticism before it gets too much attention. On the other hand, it's useful for meta purposes... though he's proven to be able to break meta analysis before as mafia. Yeah like I so can without Damdred.... Damdred told me to break that meta he said it was a dumb meta that I had made and he wanted me to become a better player. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:11 darthfoley wrote: Idk maybe i'm just lazy but other people can look my games up if they're that concerned with my meta. I wouldn't feel the need to be defensive yet helpful as scum. The double bluff?! I try to make it easier for the newer people since they never played with me and I usually am scumread by newer players which I trying to fix. Also side note I do think Koshi is town since you guys mentioned the fact he rolled scum 4 times in a row prior to this game like I can't imagine Koshi tryhard as scum unless they were that one player who kept rolling scum like 10 games or so in a row. Also townie vibes from you but I obviously know you are wrong on me but that's okay yo umight have a sevre case of paranoia. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:17 mahrgell wrote: Well LS... Instead of linking all those great threads... What is your approach to helping town this game? So far you have: - defended yourself against I dont know what - said Hi to everybody few times Both is nothing bad, but as I feel not much motivation to read all your linked games, and meta changes anyway... Just share the "town meta" you wanna apply this game. A. I almost always in the defensive early as town if people start questioning my alignment that is not Onegu. B. As scum I almost always never defend myself this hard unless Damdred was in my team(See Cell for the Damdred portion and my Witch Hunter game) C. Normally I do get a mega push going by Day 2 as town. As scum I don't do mega pushes but more soft pushes. You can see this in my more recent games. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:25 darthfoley wrote: Think I've provided plenty of thoughts and you artificially asking me for more at this point in the game is odd. What are your condensed thoughts so far? You and Koshi pretty much town already Mahrgell seems fine wouldn't lynch atm unless someone cases him. Onegu null he havne't really impressed me yet. EC is null he been jokier than normal maybe? I haven't played with him in forever so my memory is kidna buzzy :\ NeverUnlucky seems town he trying to push me unless he pulling a classic scum push on me that most first time playing with me as scum would do. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:30 darthfoley wrote: No one is worse than null* Well for one thing a quarter of the people haven't posted yet so there is still a good chunk of players to enter. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote: Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed... emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards. Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost. And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts: + Show Spoiler + On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote: Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons! + Show Spoiler + On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote: wooo koshi going for easy bro points When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town. Alright. Any other thoughts you care to share? | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:37 mahrgell wrote: How do you get to that mega push? (this is a mix of question to learn for myself and a mix of metaquestion about you ^^) Also no need in telling your scummeta, this is pointless anyway. I just push a target non-stop after locking a aim until either I get out of a bad tunnel(See Tortoise) or I had lynched them. Usually the later happens more or less. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:40 mahrgell wrote: I share as it comes to mind ^.^ But I think I covered my initial thoughts about almost everyone who posted. Well I guess I ignored TT and LS, but neither really have enough posts to warrant any analysis. Okay.I just thought you had more that's all. | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:42 mahrgell wrote: Hmmm... also I would be not unhappy about feedback on the readability of my own posts... After I quickly established myself as wot thrower in newbie mafia, this time I'm trying to keep stuff shorter, just pointing things out with less explanations... Not sure this is better though. Then again not sure who read my stuff last game :D I might just check that game. Care to link please? | ||
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On November 29 2016 10:48 mahrgell wrote: This does not explain how you come to your target of choice. Sounds more like a dangerous tunneler rolling a dice and telling everyone to trust him ^^ PS: annoying flood control... Guess I push my TL counter a bit for a change. I normally find a target either sheeping a townread or actually look into someones filter and if I dislike their filter just push them. | ||
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On November 29 2016 11:07 Shapelog wrote: Cop btw I hope you are joking because idk why in the hell you would claim Cop this early...... | ||
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On November 29 2016 11:57 Shapelog wrote: Honestly do not know what to make of Koshi Trump (Make town great again 2016) shit right now. Kinda honestly enjoy it, as long as it is productive. None of it screams scum so far from what I read. As in regard to Onegu vs. Koshi, I know where he is coming from on those points, and saw them too reading through the game. I personally don't see it scummy honestly, but I do see koshi as a light townread for what he has done so far. He also keep going after he stop talking about Onegu. I would like for him to explain his earlier sentiment on why LS good in his eyes. I've seen some of the LS I know, but some other stuff that worry me that I'll address later in this post. Like to bounce views from someone with the opposite view (this goes with anyone else as well Onegu posting style I have not really seen from him. Therefore I am going to wait and see what comes out of it and read it from a contextual viewpoint. I kinda get a ill tonal feeling from LS due to this post: Not only does this feel kinda like he's trying to twist the image. But it also doesn't make logical sense to say you are experimenting and trying to find a new style for your town play (impaling that your past one didn't work). Then saying i'm town, everything is fine, trust me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it didn't make sense. Otherwise LS is playing like how I remember him to play early on. Other people: Darth sounds pretty fine, light townread for now. Marg posted some stuff, didn't stand out to me one way or another. Emp and SL posted and peaced. Tictock is slight town read as well, though I need to analzye his posts some more. NU still needs be work through. You are overthinking it. The twist was alll in your head. Anyways once you get done with all the people you said you were trying to read can you update your stance on them? | ||
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On November 29 2016 12:39 Shapelog wrote: Which to be fair I am scum so.... Post them baby seals then! + Show Spoiler + I know you probably joking | ||
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On November 29 2016 12:37 Shapelog wrote: No. I am going to lock them in a box and ship them to China. Yes I'm bloody updating them! Because playing a boring game with breadcrumbs and shit, and being good townie with good read and stuff is boring! Edgelord for life. And I only claimed I was cop, I might not be cop. I could be a doctor, a goon, or vt. I can be anything I want, just like mum told me! Are you triggered yet? Maybe..................................................... Where is JAT when I need him. | ||
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On November 29 2016 12:41 Shapelog wrote: I was like you once, I took a noose to the neck in Noir 4 mafia. NU time (see I am a helpful sadistic, trolley, bitchy, whining, bastard) Aka you took a arrow to the knee right? Cute. | ||
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On November 29 2016 13:25 emperorchampion wrote: Not ready to come to a conclusion like that atm, esp. since some of your posts have been suspect, and there is some friction there. Just someone to read more on. Thought you were making a conclusion my bad on that portion. On November 29 2016 17:43 sicklucker wrote: shapelog and ls are not allowed to talk to each other. of this im certain What the cop claim or just talking in general? On November 29 2016 17:46 Koshi wrote: Yes. And that is true. LS darthfoley Mahgrell Koshi all town. I agree it reads extremely weird. My guess it comes from town though. Trying to figure out how they will play out this game / play in future games. Creating some sort of identity/meta. If that sentence comes from mafia it is mafia!LS making excuses he wont look like his normal town self and is trying to figure out a new playstyle. And it doesn't' read like that. But keeping pressure on LS is not horrible. Makes it easier for me to continuously feel his alliance to town. Wouldn't too bothered with it. It's mafia doing wifom or town being wifom. Potential good post. This makes no sense. Out of a bunch of people some people might be mafia, but that is only based on mathematics. I agree you are maybe the easiest target to call mafia as town. But TT, LS are also getting some heat. Also mafia has no motive except to fake some scumhunting. I would be surprised if this is true. But I will reread having this in mind. Checkm8 is also town. Fair enough I was just was surprised about the claim. HF I hope you are town this game because if you are scum I will hunt you down better than I did in the past. Even though I not exactly good at reading you right | ||
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It hard to explain but it a gut feeling on tone between EC and NU it doesn't feel town on town for some reason when they talked to each other. | ||
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On November 30 2016 01:33 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I been on mobile just wasn't much to comment on but HF vs Mah just seems like a clash of egos regardless of their alignments. | ||
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On November 30 2016 01:37 mahrgell wrote: Uhm?? I can't follow that argument. How it the tone of a townie in TvT different from his tone in TvM? If you can't decide who is the M in this matchup, I'm not seeing how you come to the conclusion that this should be TvM. Or are you saying it is TvM or MvM? Tone of TvT feels more natural while TvM feels unnatural ie like something feels forced by one side. EC vs NU seems like TvM on tone. I will look into more later when I get on a computer because quoting posts is a pain in the assignment on mobile. | ||
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On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote: Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. This post and the one after in EC's filter and the response from NU tone wise makes it seem there is a mafia between them. Like something doesn't feel natural in their conversation. | ||
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On November 30 2016 05:27 emperorchampion wrote: I guess @LS: do you have thoughts of consolidating on anyone right now? If anyone NU? Read my earlier why I could see NU could be scum. | ||
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On November 30 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote: 1) I liked the posts on mahrgell, since I don't feel to good about him myself. 2) Post #414 is pretty meh 3) Post #584 is pretty bad 4) This lead me to think that maybe 1) could be an attempt to take out a "weaker" player since there hasn't been anything else besides this from what I've seen. So overall, fairly null, but could lynch. I not sold on lynching just yet on reputation alone but I do agree with him being null. | ||
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On November 30 2016 05:50 emperorchampion wrote: Not completely sold on NU yet, would probably go through a few others previously mentioned beforehand. If there is a better target I will bite but we don't have much atm. | ||
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On November 30 2016 06:00 Rels wrote: yo Hi read the game please then give your thoughts when you caught up please? | ||
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On November 30 2016 06:08 Rels wrote: Easiest game of my life. p: I'm at page 16 where you quoted some of your past games, why didn't you include your best scumgame to date (millionaire) ? I did but in a later post. | ||
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On November 30 2016 06:13 LightningStrike wrote: Dat quote EC lmao. Spell check op on mobile. | ||
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On November 30 2016 06:20 Rels wrote: I 100% disagree. What is similar between mahrgell play last game and this game ? His thought process seems similar to his last game I probably should reread that game later more throughly. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:35 NeverUnlucky wrote: Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please. In both instances you pushed us when people were pushing us. Can't do exact time stamp I still on mobile. Anyways my phone is dying so I won't be able to post till I get it charged. | ||
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On November 30 2016 07:56 NeverUnlucky wrote: It's actually the opposite. I pushed both of you when no one was pushing you. @emperorchampion Can you walk me through your read progression on me specifically? + Show Spoiler + On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote: Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote: NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now. On November 30 2016 02:55 emperorchampion wrote: For now he seems to understand why he's not mafia, albeit a little rudely, but I'll take it for now. Feels like it yeah. On November 30 2016 03:41 emperorchampion wrote: LS / NU / mahrgell will sort out later I think, but are town for now Okay I did check and ya you did push before idk why I thought yo pushed me before Shape was doing a soft push on me. About EC I will check later so yo umoved up a bit better but still something doesn't feel right about you vs EC. | ||
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On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote: I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. | ||
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On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote: I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. Maybe. Idk man I was never good at reading him -.- | ||
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On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote: This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him. 3 in a small time frame is kinda quick tbh or my definition of quick. Anyways HF during his prime was probably the best player to had played the game as both alignments. | ||
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On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote: Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR? Like TT said it was a jab towards me since me and sicklucker played together for 2 years now and one of the things I used to do was claim blue under little pressure hence his comment. You might be reading to deep on it but that post. | ||
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[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE] I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE] He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE] second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not m [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 19:53 Onegu wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 01:35 mahrgell wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote: Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu? [/QUOTE] I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison. Off for a while[/QUOTE] Hm... I can't agree with your pro town arguments. Like you usually at least have substance. Not necessarily substance I agree with but you have something. If you were scum, and knowing your own meta, wouldn't you just fill up the thread as you usually do but drop the substance? Because this is exactly what I feel is happening with Onegu here. Being funny is not a towntell to me, sorry. (At best it makes him worth to keep around and kill him last. ^^) And not sure how those 2 quoted posts are townish, but well, early game vibes are rather subjective I guess so whatever.[/QUOTE] This is actually a fairly townish post. The changing of meta is something I do. He is wrong of course, but I do like where is mind is at with this post. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.[/QUOTE] The only rule that is in this game is the onegu rule and I am not going to bring it up... [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:20 Rels wrote: HF I hated that one post I quoted earlier. Rest of filter is meaningless. Actually this post is him further going deep down to a pointless argument, which doesn't show the "HF gamesense" Koshi was tlaking about at some point. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote: I find it hard to believe that the discrepancy I've outlined has gone over your head. Your retort of mockery just furthers my conviction. If I have to enlighten the dim witted then I shall. The discrepancy is quite clearly that the only questions you ask are targeted at your town reads, who you should be the least wary of, and none to your scum reads, who should naturally be the inverse. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] I dont like where you are going here. I am really town reading HF hard and the fact that he is more laid back here screams town HF to me. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:30 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote: Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine? Just a simple: Would like to know more: and People solely expanding filter with no content: I'm very intrigued. [/QUOTE] I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me. But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not...[/QUOTE] Actually you're more tryhard as scum ?[/QUOTE] His point is that he is now tryharding as town and breaks his meta... It's ridiculous because he hasn't done shit.[/QUOTE] No my point wasnt tryharding it was posting more. I hate you keep trying to make me look worse than what is there and you keep doing it and you know you shouldnt when it comes to me. You say dont lynch me and then you are all kinds of false shade on me. And really is bothering the fuck out of me. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:48 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote: Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?[/QUOTE] His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman. I am a sucker for people that say this: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote: Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + [/QUOTE] Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote: I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros) And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes) And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3 Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet. No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha... [/QUOTE] And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town. [...] [/QUOTE] Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well. Why is LS obvious town to you? [/QUOTE] Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good.[/QUOTE] No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does. Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that. It's all good. He is not mafia.[/QUOTE] My problem with this is iirc he hasnt shown any thought about which one is scum he just says it is TvM with no thoughts about which is which and why. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 07:51 Rels wrote: Let's kill HF. ##Vote Holyflare[/QUOTE] Yeah never voting HF. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 09:35 Holyflare wrote: Anyway, still not capable of being productive in the slightest, sorry. Just really not feeling it. [/QUOTE] This is town HF 100% [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE] I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE] He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE] My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE] I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE] He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE] I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. [/QUOTE] This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him.[/QUOTE] This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote: Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + [/QUOTE] Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote: I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros) And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes) And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3 Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet. No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] This post is not natural to me. 1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it. 2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it. Thoughts?[/QUOTE] I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote: @NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.[/QUOTE] Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.[/QUOTE] Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at. So where are you at? [/QUOTE] I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).[/QUOTE] Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you?[/QUOTE] I dont like posts like this at this point in time. EC hasnt done much of anything and he comes into the thread with asking someone for reads. Seems lazy and wanting to look like he is contributing without actually contributing.... [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:05 NeverUnlucky wrote: [QUOTE]On November 29 2016 09:08 sicklucker wrote: i just want to believe your not claiming power role but you probably are[/QUOTE] Nobody flagged this????????????? This is so fucking scummy, it's like Lunaticman's entry in that other newbie game where he blue read Stutters for [reasons?]. Why in the world would his reaction to LS asking others to trust him be that he is a PR?[/QUOTE] LS has a bit of a history of claiming blue unnecessarily or way too early, pretty sure that was a jab at that. It's a fairly old meta though. I find this less strange than the people who took Shapes cop claim seriously.[/QUOTE] LS knows I am in this game and he knows a very good way to destroy onegus sanity and make in go off the deep end fully onto LS is to make a serious claim day 1. [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 13:42 LightningStrike wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 12:01 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE] I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE] He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE] I mean that may be true but i was unaware of this meta point when I voted on him. Never played a game with HF. If he's one of the best players it's equally suspicious that he's spent a strange amount of time on D1 beating the mahrgell horse to death. Especially considering it doesn't look like mahrgell will be one of the realistic D1 trains. [/QUOTE] This feels like a weird discussion. 3 votes is hardly a quickly formed wagon. I'm also not sure how HF being considered a good player is relevant to him being pushed like this. In fact I had the opposite reaction, that the people pushing him are more likely to be town given they were pushing a "stonger" player. HF being the player is pretty subjective as well. I'm probably biased, or maybe I just missed him in his prime, but I haven't seen why people have this opinion about him.[/QUOTE] 3 in a small time frame is kinda quick tbh or my definition of quick. Anyways HF during his prime was probably the best player to had played the game as both alignments.[/QUOTE] Right now ask yourself why town Koshi goes after HF and not adapt a more wait and see. There are much more scummy reasons for Koshi to go after HF. Before the pressure on HF, HF floated the idea that Koshi is scum. Koshi knows that if there is one person in this game besides onegu who can push his lynch and get it done it is HF. In this Koshi is much more likely to be scum than town.[QUOTE]On November 30 2016 15:49 sicklucker wrote: ya i dont know why you morons want to lynch hf day 1. I would sheep him way before I would lynch him. I agree with alot of his points[/QUOTE] TRUTH [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote: [QUOTE]On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).[/QUOTE] I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?[/QUOTE] He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.[/QUOTE] second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea.[/QUOTE] Lol just LoL[/QUOTE] 1st off how Koshi was being lazy? Second of all I really don't think Koshi would be this happy as scum considering his recent history of rolling scum. Third the LS rule is a thing I even said it in some past games. | ||
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Just woke up: On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote: second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea. Fair enough... On November 30 2016 19:53 Onegu wrote: This is actually a fairly townish post. The changing of meta is something I do. He is wrong of course, but I do like where is mind is at with this post. The only rule that is in this game is the onegu rule and I am not going to bring it up... I dont like where you are going here. I am really town reading HF hard and the fact that he is more laid back here screams town HF to me. No my point wasnt tryharding it was posting more. I hate you keep trying to make me look worse than what is there and you keep doing it and you know you shouldnt when it comes to me. You say dont lynch me and then you are all kinds of false shade on me. And really is bothering the fuck out of me. My problem with this is iirc he hasnt shown any thought about which one is scum he just says it is TvM with no thoughts about which is which and why. Yeah never voting HF. This is town HF 100% My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again. This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell. I dont like posts like this at this point in time. EC hasnt done much of anything and he comes into the thread with asking someone for reads. Seems lazy and wanting to look like he is contributing without actually contributing.... LS knows I am in this game and he knows a very good way to destroy onegus sanity and make in go off the deep end fully onto LS is to make a serious claim day 1. Right now ask yourself why town Koshi goes after HF and not adapt a more wait and see. There are much more scummy reasons for Koshi to go after HF. Before the pressure on HF, HF floated the idea that Koshi is scum. Koshi knows that if there is one person in this game besides onegu who can push his lynch and get it done it is HF. In this Koshi is much more likely to be scum than town. TRUTH Lol just LoL 1st off how Koshi was being lazy? Second of all I really don't think Koshi would be this happy as scum considering his recent history of rolling scum. Third the LS rule is a thing I even said it in some past game | ||
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On November 30 2016 22:36 Koshi wrote: Let's build a real slow wagon on Mahrgell. Join me! I don't think Mah is scum tbh. But will reread his past game and compared the game with this game later. Anyways going to take a shower then going to be on mobile till 11:00 A.M CST. | ||
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On November 30 2016 22:48 Holyflare wrote: Aren't you supposed to be figuring me put ls? Have you filter dive everyone yet and if so can you give your reads on everyone? | ||
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On November 30 2016 23:37 Onegu wrote: I was talking about HF being lazy not Koshi Oh thought you did hard to read WoT posts -.- | ||
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On November 30 2016 23:39 Onegu wrote: And to the second point. Koshi wants to win. And if Koshi is mafia and HF town like I think Koshi wants to be HF. You cant use the he wouldnt be motivated if he was scum again as a excuse for Koshi. I don't see his personality be able to play like this as scum after rolling scum like 5-6 games in a row. | ||
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On December 01 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote: Yes baller read. Somebody gave you shit for that read. Probably NU but if it is somebody else you might want to check that post for TMI. I think Shapelog and other people were confused about it. Anyways I kinda caught up but will finish catching up. | ||
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On December 01 2016 07:36 Holyflare wrote: How did I waste my vote? I told people to vote nu over rels. Your vote was on Rels? | ||
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On November 30 2016 23:48 Koshi wrote: @ LS Why did you say the wagon on UN formed quickly? It went slow as fuck. Each hours 1 vote and there are 4 votes now. The 3 votes came about 1 hour time I think. Need time check that. | ||
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He could of pulled a marv if he got scum again but he's town in my eyes. | ||
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On December 01 2016 08:01 Holyflare wrote: I'm an idiot for telling people to stick on mafia? Rolf your vote and what you told other to do don't line up. I would of expected you to convince other people to vote Rels since you kept your vote on him. | ||
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On December 01 2016 18:17 Holyflare wrote: LS when you get back can you give me a brief rundown of why you thought there was definitely mafia between NU and someone else? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote: Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Mainly I felt the tone was unnatural between each other IE Thought there was 1 mafia between the two in NU vs EC due that plus a gut feeling on it. TLDR: Felt something was off on tone at the time with some gut feelings about it too. | ||
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He bussed his partner HTS in Void here was his filter there granted it was a while ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=sicklucker Also now I just remembered who rolled mafia like 10 times in a row or something like that and I think Koshi played with him. Chairman Ray the guy who rolled mafia the most in a row on this site. Found this while looking at past games of sicklucker and checked the post of one of the games. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?page=29#570 This part with my earlier quote why I thought it was TvM. Mainly tone was off I felt at the time plus some gut feeling about it. Maybe I should trust my gut feelings and tone stuff more and become Tina? | ||
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On December 01 2016 22:45 mahrgell wrote: How representative is that game? It doesn't even feel like I'm reading the same player -.- Or: how representative is this game here from him? Has he ever slacked this hard? As town or scum? Like I said it was a while ago but it does pretty sums up how he would bus a partner who was in a bad situation or at least shown he had bussed players in the past so can't rule him out on that lynch alone. | ||
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On December 01 2016 22:50 Rels wrote: We're sorry, but the post you're trying to make is over 100000 characters long. No one wants to read that much text! If you think you have a valid reason for wanting to make a post this big, bring this issue up in the Website Feedback forum. (Note: if you're doing a copy/paste from somewhere else, just summarize and link to the original source.) LOL Wrong place? | ||
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Who would try to copy and paste the entire game on TL Mafia lmao. | ||
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1. Potental TMI: So here was Shapelog's opening: On November 29 2016 11:07 Shapelog wrote: Cop btw This rather curious as we now know there is a Framer flipped which narrowed us down to set 1, 2, or 3 which all had a Framer but the fact now that I think about it Shapelog either tried to force a Cop claim Day 1 with his opening or is the real cop but here the jucy part I did ask him about his Cop claim here: On November 29 2016 12:25 LightningStrike wrote: Also you still haven't explained why you claimed cop Shape so please answer this because I don't know in what world you thought it was a good call to claim cop. His response to it: On November 29 2016 12:37 Shapelog wrote: No. I am going to lock them in a box and ship them to China. Yes I'm bloody updating them! Because playing a boring game with breadcrumbs and shit, and being good townie with good read and stuff is boring! Edgelord for life. And I only claimed I was cop, I might not be cop. I could be a doctor, a goon, or vt. I can be anything I want, just like mum told me! Are you triggered yet? This gave further information if he flips that the set up was set up 1 which was Cop Doctor vs RB Framer and goon. Point 2: Meta Shapelog as scum fails to go on his promises as shown here in Tortoise Mafia and Storm Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505463-tl-mafia-lxxiv-storm-mafia-3?user=Shapelog http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=Shapelog Yes Shapelog claimed about not being able to play for some time of this game affected him but however as town I would think he would still fullfill what promises he made this game. 3rd Point: Koshi's and others point about NU and Shapelog potential partners What Koshi and others had said Shapelog and NU never really interacted with each other directly which could be a part of distancing themselves from each other due to how bad NU was looking throughout the game in other people's eyes. TLDR: 1. Potentially TMI'd the setup early 2. Meta says scum 3. Koshi's and other's point. | ||
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On December 02 2016 00:41 Rels wrote: LS: 1 - I don't believe this proves anything. Shape has shown liking to write stupid stuff and doing stupid things as either alignment, especially during early game. I can see him writing these posts as town or scum just for fun if he's town, or WIFOMing the setup if he's scum. 2 - That sounds more promising. What promises did he break ? 3 - Yep 100% agree. Promises he broke: On November 30 2016 22:30 Shapelog wrote: Urg. Not being able to play yesterday messed me up. Got my busier schedule today. When I get time, i'll filter. I thought of something about SL last night however. I'm not terribly sure about it yet, and honestly, the evidence to support it is very very very bad. But in a previous mafia game (can't remember the name), I fake claimed mafia early into the game (was town). Scum!SL jumped on it, and pushed the fact that I could (due to my "eccrtice" past) be doing that as mafia to look fearless. He used it also to justify tunneling me for the day phase. Here, SL did not take that liberty. Instead, he just nodded and left it be, while trying to gain info (post about the discussion being bad between me and LS but townie) from what happens around it. He could of jumped on it if he was mafia (especially this time with my claim.) yet didn't. I know it was one game, but he had a opportunity to push me for it and didn't take it. thoughts (even tho i won't be here in 10 mins :/)? He didn't really try to catch up or didn't show he really did as his last post was this: On November 30 2016 22:32 Shapelog wrote: Also Onegu stole the way I catch up. Thief! That and the timing on some his promises into do something did happen but later than what he said he was going to do. | ||
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On December 02 2016 01:23 Tictock wrote: Having internet issues at home so I'm better Nguyen forced to read and post via mobile. Means I won't be doing the filter dives of death and Shape that I wanted too. Thinking about the game this morning I'm thinking the answer might be as easy as Shape/Ch8. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing what mafia was doing in the latter half of the day as NU became the lynch. Checkm8 is also reminding me a bit of foreman from last game, who was a newbie that rolled scum and gave up posting after a day when he realized he had no way to keep up. It's possible Onegu is scum but his posts right after the lynch seem fairly towns to me actually. He was more happy about his own filter length than having caught scum. I feel like scum would feel more pressure to fake being happy about the lynch. I was thinking the same thing it would explain why scum had no presence at EoD to get votes off NU. | ||
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On December 02 2016 01:36 mahrgell wrote: LOL If this is true, there is the possibility the game ends in few hours. Nobody is killed, because scum fails to vote a kill. Instead Shlog and CM8 get modkilled for failing to post, after being already warned for failing to vote. Game ends, 0 town lost. Just thinking about this possibility kills my motivation to do my last 2 filter dives. -.- You should do your filter dives anyways. | ||
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On December 02 2016 02:46 Holyflare wrote: I'm really suspicious/tin foil about ls if anyone asks btw. Being blunt I'll find it really weird that he said nu vs ec was mvt but couldn't say why or name which one was which. Then the slip thing. If he's right and town then he's playing very well, better than I've ever seen him tbh. Okay the bolded is bullshit. I did say out of those two I thought it was NU I will give you the quote. Yes about the not voting looks bad on me I didn't think my test would last from 2 hours from EoD to EoD. | ||
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On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. This was where I said I thought it was NU. | ||
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On December 02 2016 03:07 LightningStrike wrote: Therefore your point about me not saying which one of NU or EC was scum was debunked. At Holyflare. | ||
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On December 02 2016 03:09 Holyflare wrote: I'm pretty sure people had to ask you for that. Either way I just think it's weird when someone says it's MvT but don't name the person and even when you did you didn't sound sure at all. You're a tin foil, you should be dead long before lylo anyway. Cant remember if anyone asked me on that. | ||
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On December 02 2016 03:20 Koshi wrote: I can see it be true. I also want to lynch Shape over everybody else atm. Let's lynch him then as soon as the day comes! | ||
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On December 02 2016 06:48 LightningStrike wrote: Almost home will make my reads post. | ||
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Town: EC: Looks much better post flip of NU plus been trying to move the game along. Mah: His actions in this game seem to match his last game and been trying to keep my straight. Rels: Decent questioning when around doesn't seem much to stick out. TT: Looked better with recent posting plus NU flip seems to point him to being town. Onegu: Okay content his EoD looked decent wouldn't kill but most likely not scum atm. Null: Darth: Okay content but nothing to note worthy except him helping with the case on Shapelog and treating me like I am the boogie man or something lmao. HF: Dunno how to feel about him At EoD voted Rels yet said to lynch NU which doesn't make sense from him. Sicklucker: Was lazy Day 1/Night 1 would like to see what new content he will bring. Scum: Checkm8: Little content plus pulled the newbie card so many times instead of actually trying to find scum. Don't lynch before Shapelog. Kill with Fire: Shapelog: See Koshi's/Darth's case plus my addition to it. ##Vote: Shapelog | ||
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On December 02 2016 09:25 mahrgell wrote: First of all. I already said, that the first link for my is ust policy lynch territory. The second one is really not. Like I have no clue how the TL mafia meta goes. But hailing players as such great mafia players, when this seems to be entirely based on them establishing such a bullshit meta and not ever being questioned y anyone else out of some weird kind of respect for it seems fucking weird. Now to the rest: I am not disagreeing with the part that his reads were kinda fluent. Hell, his "advice" to me regarding how to improve my play was actually good. But the point is, that every semi competent player should be able to do fluent reads when he singles out only 2 or 3 people out of 13. Other players(town and scum) make weird stuff. ump on those and score your points. Where scum really trips is when they have to deal those players who are more difficult. When they have to commit to interpretations etc. Again, you tell me this is his meta. If it is, great, then his play is not scum indicative. But it still has to be questioned. Next you say he is not hiding behind it? Really? Are we even in the same game? I'm not in the mood to filter dive right now, but from memory I know that when he was on me, I asked several questions regarding other players, wanted reads on anyone but me, he refused, saying that he is all on me, and doesnt care about anyone els,e because at work. He later came back, and didn't bother one bit to look a bit broader. Later on, he replaced me with you, now all he did was going after you. Again, there were several instances were he actively said that he is not willing to dive other filters and refused to answer questions. Really? He is not hiding behind this bullshit meta you are so willing to accept? Now look at his defenses. Not sure in what world he is living, but nope. Simply nope. His entire acitivity was on a handful players. If we do not udge acitvity by post count (Onegu would also do really well in that category) but how much of the game the person covered, than HF is in deep shit territory. Next post. Oh, wasn't he just a second ago so certain how great his play was? Suddenly he is getting tunneled on players who scumread him. Sounds like absolutely great mafia play. And yes, I completely agree that sometimes giving each other breathing room is a great idea. But when someone tells you to stop this tone, then going in, escalating it further and then using this as a bargain chip to get your breathing room? Nope! And seemingly this is completely okay for everyone. Okay, not much time has passed. But somehow I feel people are again gonna accept this. He did the same D1 and everybody was fine with it. Today I won't. If this is really all he has to bring, he should die. Like until now I tried to pay respect to what people told me about the meta on TL and in forum mafia in general. But this case I really can not do that, because it reminds me of last game. You were in there. I called out Foreman for exactly the same shit on D1. That he was scum in this case can be called noobs luck on my part. But anyway. I felt my case was reasonable. But then everybody jumped me. "But Mahrgell, him not answering your questions and giving you a finger, this could be part of his character and meta. This is really nothing." And Foreman grinned happily and didn't answer "But Mahrgell, him not caring about large parts of the game and publicly celebrating this arrogant and ignorant attitude, this could be really part of his meta, dont blame him for that" and again Foreman grinned happily and continued. Foreman then went MIA though, so the problem resolved itself. Like I had seen a comparison with Foreman earlier this game. Not sure who it was (CM8?). But really. If there is any Foreman equivalent in this game, it is HF. And people are completely willing to let this happen and it fucking annoys me. He loses nothing as town if he drops this ans finally starts answering and caring. But it makes his scum play pretty damn easy when everyone lets it go. And then I see people telling me "but keep HF alive for the first couple of days, lynch him later, he is a great contributor" Seriously, I was doing this with Koshi. But I have no fucking reason to do that with HF. I simply don't see great contributions. What has he actually done this game? Like if you compare the contributions of yourself(Rels), DF, Koshi, Emp to him... Is HF really the guy who can be called a leading contributor? My answer is no. TLDR: ##vote Holyflare We not lynching HF today unless for some reason something happens that make us lynch someone else. | ||
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On December 02 2016 09:48 sicklucker wrote: Ls you should do your little meta thing on me because I want to focus on the issues. I need to get some alternative lynch going What meta thing? The one I had a idea how I going to read in future games? | ||
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On December 02 2016 09:54 mahrgell wrote: And one last thing I would like to remind people of: CM8 and Shlog can not be scum together. This is simply ruled out. Unless you are saying that they both risked being mod killed for not posting the entire night after being warned for not voting, but somehow submitted a nightkill! There is at least one active scum around. And now if you apply this logic, this is actually making the Shlog train much weaker. Assume you give CM8 a chance of 30% to be scum. This means Shlog has maximum 70% if there is guaranteed to be one scum between those two. And there is still the chance neither is scum. If you now tell me SHLOG SCUM 100%... Okay. Then you have to really convince me why CM8 can't be scum. That's a good point it means probably 1 active scum then. Forgot about that portion where nk must be submitted. Probably the last scum would be on the NU wagon. Will check stuff in a little bit. | ||
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On December 02 2016 09:56 mahrgell wrote: Who are we? Speak for yourself. I very willing to lynch HF for what he has shown so far and if he continues doing exactly that. I don't see the much fabled benefit of keeping him around until late. Sure, if shlogs defense sucks, kill him. But until then? HF it is for me. The majority of us obviously. HF can wait though at least until Shapelog gets lynched. | ||
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On December 02 2016 09:58 sicklucker wrote: i donno hf had a point. the koshi nk might have been randomed ;p. This is a pretty bad reason. I could argue nk koshi would be done by desperate people like a shapelog or cm8 team or just randomed all together The thing is Koshi was still the clear town leader it means someone active is scum and knows this and tries to disorganize us. I really doubt that it was randomized tbh. | ||
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On December 02 2016 09:57 sicklucker wrote: well thats why you have to investigate. Pssh. Do you actually believe what you talking about like 100%? | ||
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On December 02 2016 10:02 sicklucker wrote: im just gonna kill the god father slipping mafia defending darthfoley. sometimes the most simple answer is the best its elementary dear watson What the fuck are you trying to be Sherlock Holmes on me? | ||
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On December 03 2016 05:53 darthfoley wrote: Still waiting on those Shapelog reads | ||
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On December 02 2016 15:25 Shapelog wrote: On November 29 2016 12:39 Shapelog wrote: I also have a fetish for scum reads against me as town. Don't ask....just don't.... Before you read this, make sure to read the last post I posted before I posted this. I address LS/TT/Darths points on me as they were the major ones. Simple as that. I am more than happy to answer any individual questions as well. Also had to rewrite this. Darth’s Points Expect he did. Look through it with my eyes/mind. NU is hard for me to analyze on his tone (something I don’t excel at imo) because of how he behaves normally. He is over the top, loud, etc (proof can be found in previous games + warning he got from the last newbie). On top of that, I only played 1 game with NU when he was scum, and I was inactive/modkilled for inactivity (Cp broke) and didn’t pay attention to how he played. Moreover, I’ve gotten onto him and incorrectly read him as scum for his tone when he was town. Meaning I knew I had to take that into account in the read. AND Furthermore, I always try to consider both sides of the coin, especially early on. Hell, Koshi earlier in the game pointed it out (wishy washiness) as something I do every game. I personally need to discuss things like that (grey areas) in order to get/lead into a solid read. I will admit, i never was/did follow up as promised. But I did try talking to EC about him shortly after I saw his posts. It's like if I was to tell you to write a paper about the Pros and cons of….lets say Orap. However, I keep telling you while you write it all the cons of it. This causes a Grey area, since now you cannot type Pros without thinking of the cons, constantly flipping back and forth from side to side. Eh, That prob doesn’t make sense. W/e. There is also the whole “BUS BUS BUS! I WILL BUS YOU! I AM BUS MAN! I BUS TEAM! RWARRR ROM ROM!” meta I have as scum. But that is WIFOM in this conversation on rather or not I would bus NU at the point as scum. Hence why I’m not going to open that can of worms. Ticktock: Please quote this. Because I was not pressured making the NU read. I then Do TT read Then Then the only quote that really could be 'quote on quote' pressuring me pops up. Thats it. Read comes out shortly after. Again, if I got the wrong post let me know. Rest of the answers are scatter about this read because I cannot be arse to repeat myself. 1) For point one to be true, a lot of things need to happen. Lets say I am scum trying to draw out the cop claim. Why do I stop shortly after the claim and discredit my claim (by saying i could be mafia etc.) to where the real cop (which I would known to existed since we would the framer) doesn't have to CC my claim. This ruins my plan of drawing out the real cop, and makes me the center of attention due to the claim. Also, if my plan was to get the real cop to claim. What is our plan to get passed a save? Oh I get it! We become magical ghost and scare them to death! Maybe have the framer claim doctor, so RB knows who to target? This plan also only makes sense if I am goon as well. I cannot be any other role, as they are cirtical to sucuess. Finally, I have to somehow be dumb enough to as scum to literary GIVE YOU THE SET UP! And I make sure I cover my arse as scum vs town where I don't give a shit. Then all in all, what does that get the scum team? The cop? The role that we can blue hunt (which I am good at)/Rb/Frame influence without putting our selves in danger? Maybe, if we play our cards right and cop checks me. We get a semi confirm town for me. The way I handle the claim does not support your idea of me having TMI and having a plan. Not only that, but that said plan was a high risk, low reward plan. Delicately, not my type of plan as scum (high risk high reward.) 2)Next quote we get more into this point about promises. 3) I didn't have interactions with him, I won't lie. I have nothing to say in that regard. About distancing, well....You know how I distance (Room room) as scum, but again. I will admit I don't know if I was scum if i would bus him at that time. Read the last post. I doubt 10 mins is enough in your mind to catch up. My plan was after class to catch up, but other things took my time. I will admit tho, I never reread Marh (went to bed) nor updated NU read this game. I also will not lie that promises keeping doesn't happen as scum. It has however, also crept into my town play. Just usually I get around to doing most of it as town vs scum that often I just wait for it to blow over. 1. I know you had scum slipped in the past and used to bury with a large filter in fact that how you manged to avoid being caught in your first scum game ever. You could be dumb enough to do it or do without thinking. 2. Meh you break your promises more often as scum than town with my experience with you. 3. You proved Koshi's and others point about you not interacting with NU which is why we are suspicious of you mostly because of that. Why you avoided NU or at least not talk to him at all? | ||
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All we need while waiting for the flip I guess. | ||
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Time to just lynch Sicklucker I guess. Kinda mad at shapelog for not posting his reads and doing stuff. | ||
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On December 04 2016 07:03 sicklucker wrote: I hate you all Sorry you are going to get lynched no questions asked. | ||
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On December 04 2016 07:09 darthfoley wrote: BUT there are still 2 mafia left which makes me very nervous Ya this is going to be harder due to that. Ithink it's actually 2 active mafias since Shapelog wasn't scum and Sicklucker been active. His partner will be a mystery for now. Way to pissed atm will filter dive the alive people when I am calmed down............. | ||
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On December 04 2016 07:39 Holyflare wrote: Wow its rels/ticktock How sure are you about this? Also I did just see the sicklucker jailkeeper claim. Well screw you sicklucker why claim it at night? You could of at least tried to jail someone else before claiming. | ||
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On December 04 2016 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Guys that aren't Margaret. Is it possible Mabinogi is mafia? Everything is up in the air at this point. Except for sicklucker unless he trying to pull the same move he did to one of my students. | ||
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On December 04 2016 07:43 Holyflare wrote: A number. I dunno really. Mix of poe and hunch. The fact this is the first game I haven't wanted to lynch ticktock probably makes him confirmed mafia. He's playing squeaky clean though. Actuallly I could see TT being a partner for NU based on how NU did try to paint some shade on him that I agreed with early Day 1. | ||
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This was the game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478420-newbie-student-mafia-vi?user=sicklucker So we can't rule him completely out just yet. | ||
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On December 13 2016 06:05 Holyflare wrote: Get well soon btdt. ^This | ||
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On December 13 2016 06:44 sicklucker wrote: we talked about killing ls anyway. Then he basicly looked like a cop. rels had a good reaction so poe kind of made ls look like the j/k. Honestly I will always kill Ls tho im surprised ls flipping didnt clue you guys in that made me mafia. I always kill ls im pretty sure im the only one here who ever nks him consistently Shapelog has killed me twice when he was scum lol. | ||
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On December 13 2016 07:20 Shapelog wrote: Sorry for my shitty plays btw this game. Just play better the next time I play with you promise? | ||
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