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On December 01 2016 23:52 mahrgell wrote:
Just read HF:
Is he always such a tunnel dweller? He spends the first 36 hours with nobody except me, then goes on with focusing on Rels entirely. There is like one comment on DF, and a 2 post conversation with Koshi in his filter.
All questions outside of that are blocked with excuses of him being too lazy to do that.
Like his entire play can be seen as a super tunnely townie, or a scum player who uses the tunnel excuse to never talk about anything else.
I guess he is on my Neut-pile too.
Gimme vig, and I will shoot him for his name butchery though.
If you have the same feelings D3, lynch him with everything you got and don't talk to him. Just lynch him. Gather your townie friends and lynch him.
atm it is too early to judge. He is a bit underwhelming but mafia might need to shoot him anyway.
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Stop being such a little bitch rels wtf. Who cares what we're saying or what alignment we are? Why would you waste what little time you have going over.
A) what Koshi has already done
B) stuff that a confirmed flipped liar has said
It's a colossal waste of time. There are accusations against you, things to respond to, things to solve. Rehashing some dead liars filter does not find mafia, does not do anything other than drain little time you have and make you look worse to two townies that are criticising you.
Players have their own filters. I was your biggest scum read day 1 and all you're concerned about is repetition and not providing any analysis on who mafia is, you haven't even mentioned my name since.
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On November 28 2016 02:04 Holyflare wrote:
/confirm I guess...
Moving house, forgot I was in this lol sooo very sketchy activity excuse.
I'll just post this. I have no motivation to filter dive, do any work or push anything other than what is on the current pages and what I remember.
I've been pretty forthright with that. I'm only pushing what I dislike when I see it so, yes, I'll continue to be underwhelming unless I need to not be underwhelming and some boon of time comes my way.
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It's fine. This way I can get the town protection.
If I was mafia and not Koshi I would rb Koshi and kill HF. Unless I was really good at bluereading then I would RB my blueread.
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setup 2 is pretty stupid.
setup 3 is pretty op for town. 2 cops basically vs no RB
setup 1 is fair. but would the host go for the boring setup?
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On December 02 2016 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
Stop being such a little bitch rels wtf. Who cares what we're saying or what alignment we are? Why would you waste what little time you have going over.
A) what Koshi has already done
B) stuff that a confirmed flipped liar has said
It's a colossal waste of time. There are accusations against you, things to respond to, things to solve. Rehashing some dead liars filter does not find mafia, does not do anything other than drain little time you have and make you look worse to two townies that are criticising you.
Players have their own filters. I was your biggest scum read day 1 and all you're concerned about is repetition and not providing any analysis on who mafia is, you haven't even mentioned my name since.
You're bad or scum. p:
Seriously though this is bad:
I'm not refusing to erad other filters, I just started with the flipped scum.
I'm not draining the "little time I have" since I have all evening to play and it's not even day time yet.
Associations with a flipped bad scum is super powerful.
That Koshi did it before is not an argument against me doing it. I concluded things that are the direct opposite to what Koshi believes actually.
I defended myself quickly, if something is still unclear to you ask me, otherwise this is meaningless.
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Maybe mafia needs to shoot Rels.
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On December 02 2016 00:15 Koshi wrote:
Maybe mafia needs to shoot Rels.
Please no I'm just getting started with this game
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I just think it's really really fucking weird that I'm your biggest scum read day 1, NU somehow pops up and you're more concerned about hopping on his wagon instead of pushing your scum read for the day and then the most important thing you think of doing is going through and rehashing a filter instead of pushing me more when all I've done is push you a lot since the end of last day and you keep calling me bad or mafia.
Surely, and like you've mentioned earlier when I called out margarita pizza, you'd be more hellbent on calling me scum and pushing me if you were town?
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On December 01 2016 23:48 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 23:32 mahrgell wrote:
About EC I really stand with Koshi.
And it confuses the hell out of me what Rels is arguing here. I should probably stop townreading people for making completely outlandish and weird reads... Soon I'm out of targets if I continue doing that. Unless its the axis of inactivity, shlog+cm8 (would be a shame and a waste of time ^.^)
@Rels
really, can you post some stuff not related to NUs filter... I don't feel like this is getting us anywhere right now. Are you blind or did you miss the numerous times where I said I used all my time reading NU filter and reacting to it, and more things will have to come out later
Used all my time.
"I didn't use all my time"
Can you see why I keep calling out your contradictions? It's just everything you say.
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Mafia have to shoot me. It's super obvious what I am.
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On December 01 2016 06:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 06:45 emperorchampion wrote:On December 01 2016 06:43 Onegu wrote:On December 01 2016 06:41 emperorchampion wrote:On December 01 2016 06:34 Onegu wrote:
IM here
@Onegu: what are your thoughts at the moment? ##Unvote
##Vote EmperorChampionLooks like my current options are NU or Myself. Dont like those choices. And no one will sheep my Koshi vote yet... Who are your town reads currently? HF TT SL Darthfolly the next group is like NU LS Shape.
Uhm, besides one other long post from earlier, this was the only game related post in Onegus filter. Quite an achievement.
Anyway, Onegu... I honestly have no fucking clue how you came to your townreads... And I also wonder, with your scumreads being cleared by the flip (or so you said)... Where are you now?
I would love you having a sorted list telling us who your town/scumreads are in order, and like at least one line how you came to that conclusion.
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Rels I'll make a deal with you. I will treat you like confirmed town and I would like you to do the same with me, just for this cycle or whatever.
We'll try and look at the game from this perspective and if it doesn't fit we can see what happens ok? I don't wanna get into pedantic arguments anymore.
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On December 02 2016 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
I just think it's really really fucking weird that I'm your biggest scum read day 1, NU somehow pops up and you're more concerned about hopping on his wagon instead of pushing your scum read for the day and then the most important thing you think of doing is going through and rehashing a filter instead of pushing me more when all I've done is push you a lot since the end of last day and you keep calling me bad or mafia.
Surely, and like you've mentioned earlier when I called out margarita pizza, you'd be more hellbent on calling me scum and pushing me if you were town?
You were my biggest scumread mid D1. At EOD1 NU was.
On December 02 2016 00:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 23:48 Rels wrote:On December 01 2016 23:32 mahrgell wrote:
About EC I really stand with Koshi.
And it confuses the hell out of me what Rels is arguing here. I should probably stop townreading people for making completely outlandish and weird reads... Soon I'm out of targets if I continue doing that. Unless its the axis of inactivity, shlog+cm8 (would be a shame and a waste of time ^.^)
@Rels
really, can you post some stuff not related to NUs filter... I don't feel like this is getting us anywhere right now. Are you blind or did you miss the numerous times where I said I used all my time reading NU filter and reacting to it, and more things will have to come out later Used all my time. "I didn't use all my time" Can you see why I keep calling out your contradictions? It's just everything you say.
Like you, I don't have time to read filters since I'm working at the smae time, but I'm reading along and taking a few minutes to answer if I see something I wanna react to.
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Well I didn't think I would do this but I will expand on the case on Shapelog that Koshi and others did:
1. Potental TMI:
So here was Shapelog's opening:
On November 29 2016 11:07 Shapelog wrote:
Cop btw
This rather curious as we now know there is a Framer flipped which narrowed us down to set 1, 2, or 3 which all had a Framer but the fact now that I think about it Shapelog either tried to force a Cop claim Day 1 with his opening or is the real cop but here the jucy part I did ask him about his Cop claim here:
On November 29 2016 12:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also you still haven't explained why you claimed cop Shape so please answer this because I don't know in what world you thought it was a good call to claim cop.
His response to it:
On November 29 2016 12:37 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 12:23 LightningStrike wrote:I here now was playing some League games so I can comperhend why you would claim cop and still can't.... On November 29 2016 11:57 Shapelog wrote:Honestly do not know what to make of Koshi Trump (Make town great again 2016) shit right now. Kinda honestly enjoy it, as long as it is productive. None of it screams scum so far from what I read. As in regard to Onegu vs. Koshi, I know where he is coming from on those points, and saw them too reading through the game. I personally don't see it scummy honestly, but I do see koshi as a light townread for what he has done so far. He also keep going after he stop talking about Onegu. I would like for him to explain his earlier sentiment on why LS good in his eyes. I've seen some of the LS I know, but some other stuff that worry me that I'll address later in this post. Like to bounce views from someone with the opposite view (this goes with anyone else as well Onegu posting style I have not really seen from him. Therefore I am going to wait and see what comes out of it and read it from a contextual viewpoint. I kinda get a ill tonal feeling from LS due to this post: On November 29 2016 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:On November 29 2016 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
Howdy y'all
I decree that no one is allowed to town read LS for random shit capslock posts. Throwback to the cell mafia game; still a little salty about that.
slight town lead on NU/Koshi/mahrgell. I agreed with NU's point on LS in that it seemed a bit forced; don't understand the need to clarify when you last played. Koshi's intro play seems standard town and similar to the one game I've played with him. mahrgell's entrance reminds me of his town play last game.
Don't like emperor so far. Filter complete shite, though it's pretty early game. Same for siclucker; reminds me a bit of his cell mafia play early on iirc. I generally don't like trolly playstyles, so not sure what to make of Onegu so far. At least he's active. I sorry that Damdred told me break that meta man I felt so guilty honestly and still a bit lost on trying to find a new town style. I am town this game so no need to worry I will carry us. Also since you are here what other thoughts you got? Not only does this feel kinda like he's trying to twist the image. But it also doesn't make logical sense to say you are experimenting and trying to find a new style for your town play (impaling that your past one didn't work). Then saying i'm town, everything is fine, trust me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it didn't make sense. Otherwise LS is playing like how I remember him to play early on. Other people: Darth sounds pretty fine, light townread for now. Marg posted some stuff, didn't stand out to me one way or another. Emp and SL posted and peaced. Tictock is slight town read as well, though I need to analzye his posts some more. NU still needs be work through. You are overthinking it. The twist was alll in your head. Anyways once you get done with all the people you said you were trying to read can you update your stance on them? No. I am going to lock them in a box and ship them to China. Yes I'm bloody updating them! Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 12:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also you still haven't explained why you claimed cop Shape so please answer this because I don't know in what world you thought it was a good call to claim cop. Because playing a boring game with breadcrumbs and shit, and being good townie with good read and stuff is boring! Edgelord for life. And I only claimed I was cop, I might not be cop. I could be a doctor, a goon, or vt. I can be anything I want, just like mum told me! Are you triggered yet?
This gave further information if he flips that the set up was set up 1 which was Cop Doctor vs RB Framer and goon.
Point 2: Meta
Shapelog as scum fails to go on his promises as shown here in Tortoise Mafia and Storm Mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505463-tl-mafia-lxxiv-storm-mafia-3?user=Shapelog
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=Shapelog
Yes Shapelog claimed about not being able to play for some time of this game affected him but however as town I would think he would still fullfill what promises he made this game.
3rd Point: Koshi's and others point about NU and Shapelog potential partners
What Koshi and others had said Shapelog and NU never really interacted with each other directly which could be a part of distancing themselves from each other due to how bad NU was looking throughout the game in other people's eyes.
TLDR:
1. Potentially TMI'd the setup early
2. Meta says scum
3. Koshi's and other's point.
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On December 02 2016 00:25 Holyflare wrote:
Rels I'll make a deal with you. I will treat you like confirmed town and I would like you to do the same with me, just for this cycle or whatever.
We'll try and look at the game from this perspective and if it doesn't fit we can see what happens ok? I don't wanna get into pedantic arguments anymore.
Sure.
I mean, talk about other stuff and I'll respond to it if I have things to say. You're not gonna become confirmed town in my mind if I don't think you are.
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Also you guys need to know lynch Shapelog with fire!
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Going to be on mobile now as I going to school but I wil answer any questions towards me as long I don't need to do direct quoting.
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Lol I really like the tmi thing.
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Actually I am at home still thought I was leaving early so I can do direct quoting and stuff if needed until 10:00 am CST.
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