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On October 25 2016 19:19 ptmc wrote: So what? Spectre flings a dagger to draw a Shadow Path, dealing damage and slowing the movement speed of any enemies along the trail. Units hit by the dagger also trail a Shadow Path. While treading the path, Spectre phases through otherwise impassable terrain. Rolecop target player. Will return the role name of target player, but not their exact abilities. This ability can be roleblocked but not redirected. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:30 Koshi wrote: Ok now I want to see what Acrofoles has to say. The 5 hp damage is confirmed. Explain now pls I can deal 5 dmg. Spectre could deal 5 dmg. Lina could deal 5 dmg. Given that I know of 4 role pms, and 3 out of 4 of those deal 5 dmg, I don't think receiving 5 dmg is very interesting. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I'm confused. You think I hit you, am lying about it but also think I'm town? wut? Exactly. Too many inconsistencies in Koshi's claims. Kill with fire. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote: Redirects are possible. However why do you think Koshi townreads you? 3 minutes earlier... On October 25 2016 19:35 Koshi wrote: Well I figured that out. Was fun. imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp. Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:57 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, why exactly are we all townreading ptmc? Please point me to the post that confirmed him. It's mod wifom. But I think it's probably true. On October 21 2016 23:36 ptmc wrote: I have healing targeting specifically one of them, and i would like to know if you are among them. If you don't want to tell me i'll just have to try at some point. And in response: On October 22 2016 01:33 AFK Jungle wrote: Another thing on this. If your ability has any restrictions you may not say what those restrictions are. If your ability targets only dire. You may not say this. You can ask someone if they are dire. But you may not say why you are asking. Doing so past this point will result in you losing that ability. Yes we are reading the game. Usually in themed games, this type of warnings and restrictions are given so that town can't use ability claims to break the game. It was triggered by ptmc, and thus ptmc is most likely town. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:20 ptmc wrote: The Acro/Koshi interaction doesn't feel weird to you? I can not see where Acro's posts are coming from, except trying to paint Koshi in a bad light. You got me. The only reason I try to prick through bullshit is to make the bullshitter look bad. Or maybe I just couldn't understand Koshi's bizarro claim based on hot air and "winter wyvern" speculation. Guys, I took 7 damage on D1, and 10 damage on N1. The only way this makes sense is if I got hit by ExO_ the bristleback. THIS is the level of claim Koshi was making. Except it went further. When pointed to the fact that WW ulti working the way he had invented would hit Artanis and Dandel, not Artanis and Iamp, he assumed that there are special mechanics that apply to this specific ability. It is 9/11 truther level bullshit: Step 1: invent theory to explain X Step 2: find facts that match theory. ignore facts that don't match theory Step 3: ignore all other explanations Step 4 invent further nonsense to cover faults of theory in step 1. Does this make Koshi scum? No. This is just dumb. Koshi is scum for a whole host of other reasons independent of this nonsense. Will explain why later. It's lunchtime now. | ||
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First off, I took the time to look over his recent games to get an idea of how he plays. Pretty similar to what I remembered. He is good as either town or scum. The only difference I kinda feel is that maybe as town he is more confrontational and prone to get into fights. However, I don't remember scum koshi in a heavily themed game. He was scum with me in GoT mafia, which was themed, but didn't have wacko roles, just weird voting mechanics. I checked out Aperture 2 where he was town and actually has a similar idea to this game. He has some item, and when people distrust his claims and what he plans, he goes apeshit. So... I'm no longer convinced koshi is definitely scum. However, I just can't shake that feeling. D1 he was just lurking and coasting by. And then came the claim, his filter is mostly about the claim, and I have copied some of the posts to show how this claim evolves: Double lynch: On October 23 2016 08:42 Koshi wrote: Also don't understand how people can think I am mafia while I have a double lynch. On October 24 2016 00:14 Koshi wrote: Maybe not a double lynch (also calls people who just took him at face value when he claimed "double lynch" stupid): Maybe you shouldn't see it as a fucking double lynch. Holy fuck you people. I am out before I tell everything. Justbullshit. Vivax/Skynx/Lunatic ez mafia. "Kills a guy with a shitton of votes" On October 24 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps? Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes. The clearest explanation yet: either a threshold or somehow proportional to number of votes. Has to send in the action on a specific player, and is thus not really linked to the lynch, just to the votes. On October 25 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote: Ok guys. Let's say I need to afk the next 5 hours and need to send in now. I need to know there will be at least 6-7 votes on Lunatic today. He also needs to be the second lynch. Well, he doesn't have to be but if he is main lynch it is overkill obviously. If he doesn't have the votes he wont get 1-shotted. On October 25 2016 01:16 Koshi wrote: Well. It happened. Everybody scumreads Lunatic so he should get ez 6-7 votes. I also get less effective with the more days pass. Now, this happened directly after the night started: On October 25 2016 07:12 Koshi wrote: I was hit for over 50 already so you can kill me tonight. This was not long after the night post. He hasn't had time to mull it over, or at least, not more than about 40 minutes, as we all sat there f5'ing waiting to be allowed to post. He is not interested in the fact that his ability didn't work. He is interested in the damage he took. This while the vote count, and thus what he last claimed his ability worked on, was unchanged. Votes weren't nulled, they just didn't cause a lynch. It doesn't make sense to just take this as "par for the course", if you are a townie and expect to have murdered scum with your awesome pro-town double lynch ability. I was in a rage and it wasn't even my ability. The explanation that makes the most sense is that he was fully expecting this shit to happen: he doesn't have a double lynch, he has a no-lynch. Circumstantial evidence: koshi is melee, and nightstalker is melee. We know koshi is melee because he jumped to HF to attack him in N1 (and mb to GB on D1, although it might be GB jumping to him too). A few minutes later, he claims that a "mafia ability sucked up all the votes". However, a quick glance at the nightpost shows the votecount is still there. There is absolutely 0 evidence any votes were sucked up. Just that the lynch didn't happen. In addition, we have this. I don't like doing it, but... "I told you so": On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote: Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV. He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them. If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got. I won't overanalyze the whole winter wyvern bullshit, which was mostly just shitting up the thread with baseless action wifom. Koshi: is your action refunded if you get roleblocked? Why didn't you claim roleblocked FIRST THING rather than wine about the damage you took? It all just doesn't add up. | ||
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Welp, Koshi. Guess you're off the hook tomorrow. We do kill Vivax first after all! | ||
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On October 25 2016 23:55 iamperfection wrote: He just played a scum game in a heavily themed game acro. Palmar's game What game is that? I looked at his profile and found Murder mafia, and other than that, relied on the DB. | ||
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On October 26 2016 00:42 iamperfection wrote: Anyone disagree? Not me  There's too much possibility for protection, or reflection.On the other hand, we may be wifomming mafia into using their protection elsewhere! But imho shoot scummy shit that isn't Vivax: Luna Koshi GB LT in particular. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:00 sicklucker wrote: well if your mafia you can coordinate that with your team.. its getting pretty far fetched but its still possible you claimed this with the intention to have your team mate stop it. motives are pretty weak tho 1) Damage can be real. People attacking koshi does not sound surprising to me. 2) For real. How many people in this game can do 5 damage? 3) BM didn't confirm Artanis/Koshi attacked one another. He derped when looking at the movement charts. 4) I believe Artanis And moreover, it should have hit DANDEL, not Iamperfection, and DI claimed no damage. So... 9/11 truther level critical thinking here. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:05 sicklucker wrote: Damn I recieved 5 damage not 4 or 6 something is strange here Read the thread back to front, you derpface. Your thoughts aren't original, because people have already pointed this out... | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:29 sicklucker wrote: no your 5 damage was a mafia aoe attack that also hit me artanis and others. so we are obvious towns now I think Claiming a random 5 dmg aoe makes marginally more sense than something uber specific like winter wyvern ultimate. It's just that the people hit are randomly distributed over the board. I guess something like Phantom Lancer's ultimate might do something like that? But seems pretty OP for a mafia daytime ability. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:35 sicklucker wrote: did you recieve your damage at night iamp? the 5 damage. to acro- literally everyone between me and iamp has recieved 5 damage or is not around to tell us they didnt recieve final damage. We must investigate this Wut? You're worlds away from each other (and were on D2 too). For starters, I am between you two and took 0 damage on D2. This is the players between you two: iamperfection Skynx beentheredonethat Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo Koroko ExO_ Acrofales Kurumi Hopeless1der ritoky Vivax Tubesock GlowingBear sicklucker Moreover, Artanis is not between you two. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:40 sicklucker wrote: he was at the time he moved. look at the playerlist I got Where the hell are you getting the player list from? That was the D2 player list. The N2 player list has you two even further apart. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:41 sicklucker wrote: oh ya I received the damage on the 22ed not last night. when did you recieve the damage? \facepalm | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:43 sicklucker wrote: Its a mess acualy and the information on it is so scattered. oh well I tried Not keeping track of claims. Confirmed scum  | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:46 Koshi wrote: I am going to die so you people can read my pm. To not break the rules I will say, people that attack me get 5 damage, and this is confirmed by btdt getting 3 times 5 damage when he attacked me. But again. You can read it yourselves soon enough. I wondered about 2 things. 1) Why didn't my ulti go through 2) Why did I get so much damage. 1) I still don't know because this game has a closed set up and all kind of shit can happen. But my opinion is that I got stunned by something and due to BM saying I did 5 damage to Artanis I believe people around me attacked me. Winter Wyvern just makes sense to me. So if somewhere in the game you copcheck somebody and he is WW just murder him. Also, I can't be RB'ed. So I knew it wasn't that. 2) I didn't know what happened to my ulti so I just ignored that for the time being, thought it was tied to the darkness thing, thought the night kinda came early so the EoD resolution just didn't happen, anyway, I was upset about getting so much damage so I whined about that. I felt I played a very townie D2. Almost cheated my way to confirmed town status, but you people are really just too dense. PS: I still have my ulti. That I know. PSII: RIP Koshi Not role blocked, but didn't happen. And you still have the ability? What madness is this? Did you ask the hosts? | ||
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