[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia - Page 44

On October 05 2016 15:55 Grackaroni wrote:

I don't think that scum becomes genuinely annoyed at somebody for not answering a question because they don't actually care about the answer. This is something that Superbia has to actively think of to fake.

If you're going for the cocky useless scum play, then you are drawing a lot more attention to yourself. It can be harder to pull off than you would think, and it's always a riskier gambit than just contributing more than the shittiest players.

Marv isn't going to roll over this game as scum because he hasn't played in months.

HF point was something that I noticed as well.

On October 05 2016 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
General rant over. Vote batsnacks/calix.

On October 05 2016 20:33 marvellosity wrote:
And jat is frightfully dull. I also have less time than historically (hence first game in 4 months) but at least I say things occasionally interesting while i'm here

On October 05 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
also yeah, jat's push on Stutters looks quite bad.

On October 05 2016 20:34 marvellosity wrote:

sounds logical, but it would be untrue. I would have been crushingly depressed not to have rolled town in my first game in 4 months and been even lazier than usual

On October 05 2016 21:04 batsnacks wrote:
K Im caught up now nice rant post HF I similarly agree I wouldn't be that surprised if most of you flipped Mafia. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm going to borrow from what palmar said earlier but I think at least several of you are too caught up in yourselves to be as successful as town could be on this first day. the game is less about what's going now on in Cruise Boat Mafia more about maybe a select few egos.

i think a large majority agree that Calix vs <X> has been a pretty consistent, useless shit show. I don't think I've seen anyone move forward in any conversation with this person without moving two steps backward into unnecessary defensiveness or unpleasantness

I'm being pushed, I think, because I suggested in the that superbia was frustrated town dealing with a (self admitted) anti town person and a whole train of other people all at once. I'll repeat my superbia story because I still don't think it's an unreasonable perspective. Superbia started the game afraid to post their reads they commented several times that it was in their, and town's, best interest that superbia stay on the sidelines. He finally got pressured into sharing some reads and immediately got met with pretty much everyone insulting him and saying he was Mafia.

Then HF, OUTRAGED that I could possibly suggest superbia may be showing signs of frustration in the HEAT OF PASSION started the push on me. Like how on earth does it ever benefit me as Mafia to suddenly pop in with the most unpopular of all opinions ever. Even if my read on superbia is trash, which hey it might be!, why am I ever sharing that?

People should look at what people are posting IN THIS GAME like who cares that jat is capable of being a parrot/pushing an anti town agenda as town. He could be pushing a Mafia agenda in this game by doing that.

Damdred too in his all stars bio it says Damdred is a slow starter, in his all start game he was slow with questions at the start and was very careful to take stances before being solve-y first. Here he just popped in midway through the game with a few sudden conclusions and no questions. Can Damdred do this as town sure but he could also be pushing a Mafia agenda.

What Mafia agenda am I pushing when I say "hey guys superbia looks like frustrated town here" in the midst of half the thread calling him terrible?

On October 05 2016 21:29 Calix wrote:
The fact that you think that I'm a good player automatically tells me that you're overestimating my play.

On October 05 2016 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:

Let me tell you why you should care:
Because if I am able/prone to do that as town you cannot use it as argument for me to be mafia. Pretty simple and logical concept. The point of this game is to show why someone is mafia and you are not doing that.

Superbia threw a fit and it was completely unwarranted. The fact that he is getting scumread for it specifically is that he is known to do that as mafia. You nonsensically stated that you think he is town for being afraid when generally being afraid is a scumtell for most people.
It's not necessarily mafia agenda to defend superbia here (even though it very well could be because he is quite scummy) but it really doesn't need to be for you to be scum.

Your damdred point is ok though.

On October 05 2016 21:32 Palmar wrote:

Did you know that this should make me scumread you.

And I'm tempted to, I don't know though.

Thing is, when given credit in mafia, you should always take it as town. If I control the lynch as a townie, because people are willing to listen to me, I am automatically increasing town chances of succeeding by a tiny bit. I'm not going to lynch myself, so statistically I'm more likely to hit mafia from my pov.

Even then, it's always beneficial as town to have people listen to me. On the other hand, as mafia it's the other way around. If I know people won't listen to me as mafia, I'll just bus every day and call everyone bad until the game is over.

So, no matter your intention here, you did something that is objectively scummy. Thing is though, people do objectively scummy things all the time as all alignmnets.