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HF reasoning is mostly based on the NK. It incriminates him but cause it does, it doesn't and wifomwifomwifom. I didn't see any reason not to just lynch HF today back at night start, I don't see any today. The case stands just ignore him kicking and screaming.
If HF flips town I'll reconsider but there's no way I'll vote anyone other than HF today. Just sheep for an easy day 3.
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Nah I think I'll just lynch you, no point arguing with scumHF.
I'll respond to other people, not to you. Today is literally just getting past all your kicking and screaming and find the balls to keep the wagon on you on track no matter how many new arguments you drill from the ground. You can do that all day we both know it.
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This is as good a reason as any other to lynch HF I don't need to disprove his arguments at all. I just need to prove why he's mafia. All you need to do is walk back to EoD and see him and superbia go ham once I drop my vote on Shape, then you should see the light.
On September 14 2016 06:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote:On September 14 2016 05:21 Palmar wrote: which one is the cop one? Vengeful voting shape which is manipulated Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:29 Holyflare wrote: You're voting with a manipulated vote and expect to be town read? Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:32 Holyflare wrote: Vivax ignoring manipulated votes and actual posts in the game noted. Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:47 Holyflare wrote: I hate 1/3 of shapes filter but i don't hate the other 2/3 is the problem Case: - HF attacks me voting Shape for the VS vote. - Slowly realizing shape is in danger of being lynched, he actually reads his filter (first time?). Shitty defense. - When enough pressure built up, the bus ensued after he spent the entire day trying to murder other people.
If you really want to do NK analysis, here's what Skynx got iced for cause HF was confident that Tumble would be easy to manipulate.
On September 15 2016 03:09 Skynx wrote: Vivax is also right about HF with the voting the manipulated ghost stuff thingy, HF is prolly scum.
Basically he's bussing, he never had an opinion on Shape, he called ghost vote on Shape bullshit, he voted me as his top sr then said he voted mafia (shape) when he didn't need to. Try to fit that in a town mindset plz ty.
If you think I bussed Shape in that situation, read again. I was set on voting him even before the vote HF dismissed as a scum vote appeared (which is one of the arguments HF is using). You have to play the game and actually read it. I'm already spoonfeeding you enough arguments, and once you go back and see it's all true, you can make the right decision. Trust me who was townie all game long and lynched mafia, or trust one of the top mafia players on this site who defended shape by attacking me and then ended up voting him.
That's all you need. Nothing else is required to lynch HF. You find one mistake, and you push him for it, which I did already. This game is lynch HF, lynch superbia, win. I don't even want to try and attempt at looking elsewhere while he's alive. That's just pointless distraction, it cost me the Palmar push in star wars he was supporting for lulz.
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Although admittedly I was wrong on scott, but stuff is hard before a scum lynch. Here I got one scum lynched, I'm gonna get the other two lynched as well. Or shot if town ends up being retarded.
Never vote NU, TW, me who were the purest votes on shape (HF just bussed to not look like shite, Damdred voted to save himself but I'm still assuming he's town). Lynch everything else until no scum is left. We have like 3 lynches left and maybe protection in the night. Saul Goodman.
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On September 16 2016 05:01 Holyflare wrote: you're literally saying my mistake is voting mafia I don't even understand your logic
On September 15 2016 11:10 Holyflare wrote: I'm not the one being town read for voting on shape in fact it's quite the opposite. I also eliminated like my biggest scum read after proving his logic was trash. I never mentioned Shapelog despite my propensity to hard bus team mates but then decided to bus him for no reason to look awful voting with scum reads.
These are all my tactics that earn me best mafia player? Looks like trash inconsistencies to me.
If your defense is only that you would have pushed him "harder", I rest my case. It means nothing that you voted mafia at the point you did. You just caught a whiff of the thread sentiment switching towards the shape vote, thread sentiment I fueled.
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On September 16 2016 05:08 Holyflare wrote: Either way maybe you should reread my case because it's actually quite a deep flaw in your Shape read.
He was your town read, he gave you your biggest scum read on fuba, nothing changed other than 0 posts and he suddenly became your lynch choice when people were piling on damdred, it didn't make sense when damdred was also your scum read.
It looked like your team mate was afk and you wanted to not be on a potentially town damdred wagon and decided to just make up bull shit to be on him to look good later
Damdred was my scum read? He was in nullish pile all the time I decided to give it a go at TRing him EoD and all my reasoning is laid out. Stop inventing things it's pitiful
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You keep arguing that you wouldn't vote Shape like that as mafia.
What matters is why you would do that as town. Why did you vote Shape after everything in your posts suggested that you wouldn't? You spent all that time arguing that it was a manipulated vote, why did you follow it? Try reversing your reasoning there instead of using the defensive one.
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All this conversation only has one goal, HF: To make me call you town so you can survive. But it's not going to happen. I've already decided you have to die, and no argument is going to change that, it's only reinforcing it.
And with this, I pass the ball to the other players and will reply to them instead which is a much more productive approach.
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On September 16 2016 05:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2016 03:54 Holyflare wrote: the town mindset is I didn't want to vote a guy that sounded townie and I have no qualms killing an afk guy that has several scummy bits in his filter
simple
i don't care if all my scum reads are voting for him why would I ever vote someone that sounds like he's town?
You sounded convinced that the vote was manipulated though. That doesn't appear in your reasoning, it was the only fucking reason you were on my ass HF. And it's the reason you don't care about in the slightest when explaining your vote on Shape.
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I didn't believe the vote was manipulated, you did. You called me mafia for voting with the manipulated vote, then voted with it yourself, what does that make you then? At the very least it makes you a hypocrite, at its worst it makes you a liar.
You're not townie for vomiting posts continuously, it didn't make you town in star wars either when we were talking in the thread solo for 70 % of the game. I've learned my lesson it's time the rest learns it too.
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On September 16 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote:On September 14 2016 07:44 Grackaroni wrote: You voted Shapelog with skynk/tw/vivax after spending the better part of the EoD arguing these guys were mafia while also saying that the vs vote was a scum vote.
I don't see how you could ever agree with that lynch as town. I didn't vote with them i voted for myself. I also voted before Skynx had even said anything. Damdy sounded towny and I simply voted the counter wagon. I didn't like some of his filter, i thought the vote could be wifom to put people off a team mate too. Unless you think damdy is mafia too then I pretty much saved his life for no reason other than to look bad for voting with vivax who I'm not even scum reading incredibly much and less so if i decide damdred is town. Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to
If you're 100 % sure it was a wifom vote, cause apparently you are 100 % sure it wasn't scott's vote, then you are also aware that mafia was trying to frame shape as town.
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On September 16 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote: How can you not believe it was manipulated when the last will said what scott was doing?
That's one of your possible interpretations, not other people's as far as I'm aware. Either way it was all just speculation I never gave a shit about scotts LW after the initial reaction. It was a fun addition to the game but not relevant at all, still. For you it was like the holy grail you then proceeded to despoil against all the principles you were calling me scum for. It's not hard for you to write up a good sounding reason afterwards for why you did what you did. What matters is, it happened.
Tomorrow is the day HF. I'm off praying that this day town is not going to be retarded.
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I've run into internet issues not able to post until I get access to the router here, currently posting from a shorty phone that isn't mine. Waiting Goethe owner to return,and remember that the jibberish above is auto correct.
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My internet is operational again. It sucks big time we aren't killing HF yet, it seems like the British dictatorship goes on in the forum even when they try to murder every tourist that comes to the UK with their food. Time to revisit old posts which none of you lazy bums were capable of, obviously.
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It's tempting to let off of HF given nobody besides me has the balls to lynch him, but he's probably going to survive the next night, and the night after, and talk all of you into the ground, being the most active in the thread while this day, was the day you had a real shot at getting over his iron grip if you just figured out that his actions at EoD are proof for him being mafia. I'm convinced of it.
I've seen some people concerned over my read on fuba but I stopped caring about it the moment I realized that we have to kill HF. He's convinced he can just talk me into unscumreading him, or talk you into lynching me should I not desist from this read.
He said the NK incriminated me cause I didn't die, while he just killed a guy who would have supported his lynch and my opinion 100 %.
Me and Damdred are the mislynches, superbia and HF are the mafia (notice how HF asked superbia a few token questions about his EoD shapelog read today), and they split votes now for appereance and will reunite them later either on me or on Damdred. Fuba I don't care about in the slightest now cause superbia and HF have already shown that they are a team at EoD last day when I voted shape.
I'll grab what I mean. Cause the voting pattern is the same as D1.
- Super D1 silently agrees with HF on TT, finds an own bullshit reason to switch to TW. - Later switches to TT with HF. - Super D3 silently agrees with HF on me, finds an own bullshit reason to vote Damdred instead. - Later will switch to me with HF (probably)
I've already mentioned the stuff from D1 earlier. Now I repeat it just cause it repeats itself.
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On September 09 2016 21:54 Superbia wrote: Is there a world in which TW and TT are both town? Seems verryyy unlikely.
On September 09 2016 22:03 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 21:55 Holyflare wrote: How are both those people related?
(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?) They're both in this game. I have been inclined to group them together though I believe this has been covered by Calix before. TW's read on TT seemed non-existent and kind of forced. Plus he was willing to ignore your push on him because of 'paranoia'. Felt awkward. Like "look at how townie-paranoid I am" while not committing to anything.
Today:
On September 16 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote: Actually I am letting my ego get in the way. It is strictly better to support a relevant wagon
After a series of posts where he's 100 % convinced I'm mafia. He instead bends over and takes a majority sausage, when there still is a realistic chance that I get lynched, but he doesn't want to fight for it for shit.
He will just drop his vote on the biggest wagon that shows itself when we're close to deadline. This way, he yet managed to not look like he was pushing the same target as HF all along. Same strat as D1.
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I realize this is connection based and idgaf if TW will hate me for it, but the remaining mafia very very likely is just super and HF who fought against the Shape lynch yesterday.
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The votes are just as irrelevant as yesterday for analysis purposes. Don't let HF believe you that they mean anything. If we believed HF yesterday, Shape would still be alive.
On September 14 2016 05:30 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 05:29 Vivax wrote: HF and super start an orchestrated defecation on me when I vote shape, I feel pretty good about my vote now. Now please kindly take 2m to talk about how the VS' vote is the one most likely to be influenced by mafia.
If you check around the time of this post. HF and super both try to get shape townread by arguing all the time about the VS vote, without actually having balls and calling shape town for it.
They will say "why should we talk about a manipulated vote being alignment indicative at all?".
The real question is: If the vote wasn't alignment indicative, why do they waste all the time talking about it? And call me suspicious for voting Shape?
There's also this thing where HF says "Vote /m11 if Damdred is mafia" as a message to scott. When he votes outside /m11, why does HF assume the vote is manipulated, and not simply that Damdred isn't mafia?
Plus HF's sudden change of reads on Damdred to have his bullshit reason to bus shape when it becomes evident.
Here's HF's reads pre-deadline:
On September 14 2016 04:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2016 04:22 Palmar wrote:On September 14 2016 04:21 Holyflare wrote: I think Skynx is an excellent lynch because:
A) he's extremely likely to be mafia B) we don't have to read his comments on every single post we've already read but 24 hours later Do you think damdred is town? I don't actually have an opinion on him he's underwhelming but he doesn't seem to give a shit which is confusing and slightly towny. Probably because I haven't read his filter even though I was supposed to, oops.
On September 14 2016 04:37 Holyflare wrote: I don't care I'm killing sky because i read his filter.
On September 14 2016 05:50 Holyflare wrote: Is it weird that i don't really give a shit about any of these wagons dying? Probably not.
On September 14 2016 05:55 Holyflare wrote:I think damdred is town
On September 14 2016 05:59 Holyflare wrote: Mafia voting damdred gg
On September 14 2016 06:13 Holyflare wrote: Nobody is confirmed unless damdred is town which i dunno about
Anyway afk
So when it suits him, Damdred becomes town 5 min pre EoD so he gets a quick reason to bus shape. Before, while he still had a chance at changing sentiment, he pushed me and skynx who both voted Shape. When it's out of his hand, he adapts and votes shape cause he claims Damdred is town. And once the lynch is done, Damdred goes back to the mislynch pile and he doesn't know about him.
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Only NU and Damdred combined can save the day now. Superbia will switch to whoever isn't HF and HF to whoever isn't superbia. You have no chance of lynching superbia Damdred
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