[M][T] Haunted Mansion 3

On September 09 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote:

I think pissing him off would be better. Funnier too.

On September 09 2016 23:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Nice misrep, zzz.

On September 09 2016 23:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:


Right after being called out. Lovely example of proactiveness here.

On September 09 2016 23:46 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Updated reads list:

TOWN
Vivax
HF
Superbia

LEAN TOWN
Calix
Shape

NULL
Palmar

LEAN SCUM
Grack
TW
TT
Skynx
Damdred

On September 09 2016 23:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:


Again, another scumtell (which I've explained in an answer to Grock's post).

On September 09 2016 07:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:


Where are you going with this? Do you scum-read us both? Posts without conclusions like this one aren't worth much.



Lel.

On September 09 2016 07:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:


"It's a joke guise"

Maybe I'm off, maybe I'm biased because she's the only player I know. She hasn't done anything I can see worthy of being town-read, so I'm satisfied with my read so far. What are your thoughts on her?

I agree with the post he made about Calix's fluff, and I like that he is trying to scum-hunt unlike most players here. However, he did twist some of the things Calix said. Was it in an attempt to throw shade? Was it just a misrep? I don't know yet.

I will say that I do not like your slot. You've been sitting back, trying to read solely me and Calix, the new players, the low hanging fruits. You haven't tried to scum-hunt yet either, prefering to ask players some non-confrontational questions instead. Lean-scum.

On September 10 2016 00:08 Superbia wrote:
My solution is usually to read the thread but not the content of posts. Especially long posts. People have boring opinions that are usually wrong and always inferior to my own.

On September 09 2016 09:24 Tumblewood wrote:
there is one thing I have on Shapelog that makes me feel really smart. I think he is town because of his setup spec early game, because it shows that he is genuinely interested and not doing it for town cred because setup spec is generally something people scumread you for. not 100% but I'm sticking with it.
other people:
vivax is probably town just for tone and care-ness
calix looks town and NU looks scum to me. even though their entrances were the same from a surface-level point of view, calix feels more genuine and helpful.
Damdred interests me but I do not yet have feelings toward his alignment

On September 09 2016 09:22 fuba wrote:

Actually a good point, may have to reexamine your argument when I get out of class.

And I've used my 2 15 minute break to at least say something about the game (regardless of how minimal it is). Not sure I fit with anyone who's trolled or called everyone boring and skipped off.

On September 09 2016 09:51 Tictock wrote:


I like this guy, this is a solid post.

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Contrast to Skynx here


First to post, been around, fucks off without saying anything and right about when things start happening.

On September 09 2016 09:46 Calix wrote:


WIFOM and meta, two of my favourite things ever. Well I can't comment further on that read since I've only been in one game with Shapelog (which tells me nothing) and I'd rather remain ignorant so that my reads aren't tainted by subjective interpretations of how someone acted in a previous game. Also I hate being meta-read myself.

Can you point me to where you felt that NU was insincere? Or explain why him confusing you so much means he's less likely to be scum? I don't relate to your thought process so far.

Personally I think trying to force a town circle just creates friction and increases the chance of scum getting into one. I don't think he was doing that though, just said he wanted to lynch outside of his town circle...which is basically going "I will lynch a null/ scum read over a town read" so I don't think there's much to be found there.

On September 10 2016 00:46 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Tunneling is NAI.

On September 10 2016 00:53 Holyflare wrote:


What the fuck lol

On September 10 2016 01:00 Vivax wrote:


Yea that's a really shoddy read. On top of it, it can never be right to make such a call on someone like you.

So far I don't see much novelty from Skynx, he's just piling up on the popular targets TT/TW and seems to TR almost everyone who goes after them or was involved in early game.

On September 10 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:
Also two people that are laying low so far are Grack and Shape.

On September 10 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:


All of this is obvious and has already been said. Looks like a filler/fluff post.

On September 10 2016 03:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:

See, this was a good point.

On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing

On September 09 2016 21:34 fuba wrote:

My apologies.

On September 10 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote:
So, hi. I have destroyed my phone by accidentally flushing it down the toilet.

So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy)

On September 11 2016 01:35 Palmar wrote:
Yeah I won't do much today

I'm probably going to:

a) sheep hf
b) lynch hf

That seems like the most reasonable plan. I'll maybe read a post or two by him later

On September 10 2016 06:48 NeverUnlucky wrote:


He said something like "Oh, 7 games, he's a noob. According to my newbie tells, he is town." Go figure what that means, zzz.



Forgot to add that you shouldn't wait for him to play, but rather pushing him to formulate a read on him, much like I did with Skynx.

On September 10 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:


This man speaks the truth. A wagon on Palmar is something we need at some point if we want him to do anything at all. Preferably today, or monday. He won't do stuff until he's in danger of being lynched. If he keeps posting like this I won't be able to make a call on his alignment, cause right now he certainly didn't post enough.



Agree with the bolded. TTs opener was shitty, but I don't see how the rest of his filter is forced. He certainly doesn't deserve a townread, but neither a scumread as of yet. He should definitely post more. I found TT to be an easy-ish townread once he started getting involved.

For HF it doesn't mean much cause he opens aggressively in every game.

If anyone ate that bait it was probably superbia, but his opinion on TT wasn't fleshed out in my memory. I got the feeling he was just comfy with HFs opinion, in a world where HF is town. Then proceeded to scumread TW by association (something about TWs read on TT not being townish iirc).

The overall feeling was that he just inserted himself along with HF somewhat pretending he doesn't exist.

On September 10 2016 06:38 Tumblewood wrote:
palmar disappoints me which is nai. waiting until he decides to play for real
2 down, 4 to go

On September 10 2016 06:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:




What's the difference between the two? Why is an argument scum indicative of one and NAI for the other?

On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it.

It's a very strong opening.

But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because:

On September 11 2016 03:09 Vivax wrote:


A bit of Palmar meta.

Palmar can be an ass. He's unpredictable. Some games he tries, some games he openly doesn't give a fuck.

He absolutely hates being vigged, and thinks that not getting lynched is one of towns first tasks.

IE in the case he's playing his not give a fuck style, you get a wagon on him going and he's going to be forced to play. If he still doesn't care, you keep lynching. Not on weekends though cause he does stuff with his family (for example playing mafia with kids, he's already breeding the next generation of tl mafia players).

Btw fuba nice ninja.

On September 11 2016 03:46 Holyflare wrote:


This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all.

On September 11 2016 03:49 Calix wrote:
Skynx, pls give your ideal targets instead of making an open-ended appeal.

TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing

On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.

The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.

My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.

Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.

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Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.

On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:


My heart glitters as you mention my name.

But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this?

On September 11 2016 04:15 Damdred wrote:


Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts.

It would go like

Tt
Shape/super

And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent.

The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly

On September 11 2016 04:15 Holyflare wrote:


What you write makes 0 sense.

On September 11 2016 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
You vote tt or you don't and explain why.

Oddly enough i like grack and tumble for actually putting the effort to address it.

Cal has said that she actually liked the tt case but isn't voting tt because it had 3 votes and wifom that's horrible and you should lynch her next cycle likely.

Skyn js probably a good bet for mafia for continually being behind and when he's oosted something of substance on a topic he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He also town read me early in a super bad way, probably mafia.

Damd probably towny after all.

Palmar who the fuck knows but sheeping me is well smart.

Shape i didn't hate his posts vut disappeared super too but wouldn't surprise me if they were mafia.

Vivax underwhelming walls of text with hipster town reads and not enough crazy crap and also ignores damdred calling tt mafia for afk when he knows tt afks as town.

Too many mafia.

On September 11 2016 04:41 Superbia wrote:


We've played like 5 games together pls be specific on me

On September 11 2016 04:44 Skynx wrote:

You can be killed today you haven't been amazing. If you really ask I think you tend to slip some way D1 as scum people tend to catch on it. This game you were more shitposting/afk that you didn't really have time to slip.

On September 11 2016 04:50 Calix wrote:
I fail to see how TT can possibly be scummier than Damdred who seems to talk about anything but scum-reads and has only sheeped onto a leading train and justified it with some bullshit abstract "scum COULD be bussing" reasoning (which has no basis in anything that's happened in the thread, thus this idea can NEVER be countered properly)

Also the fact that he commented on me calling him out the first time shows that he's checking the thread at least but doesn't care to comment on it even though we have 1 hour until EOD.

And the only arguments for him are "he can put in effort and he's a good player". Correct me if I missed some amazing defense of his posts so far but I doubt I have.

On September 11 2016 04:58 Vivax wrote:


His scum play has become really good. I won't lynch him D1 by default but I'm certainly still open to the idea of him being mafia. If he actually lynched mafia at some point ahead that would make things easier.

HF and Palmar are roughly in the same category.

The idea of the town circle is only as good as the town circle itself, so don't really see any grounds for this being a reason to TR Damdred.

On September 11 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:
My laptop is slow when it comes to quoting so I'll just be giving numbers so I can keep up with the thread.

But 648 and 658 has him basically say "oh I have this town read, who wants to guess at what it is" and when NU gives an answer he says "lol no" but...doesn't actually say why he town-reads fuba for that post. Not a scum tell but baiting people with a read that you have when you're not doing it to get info is strange and not sure why he did that.

827 was also terrible because he was saying "there is no logical reason for town to defend TT" (which implies that anyone who does defend him is scum and reads like he was trying to deter me from doing so) especially the last line where he was like "well this particular thing could mean anything"

The rest of his filter is the WIFOM discussion and some 'townie bravado' posts.

On September 11 2016 05:28 Holyflare wrote:


How are you alive when the water on your body has boiled?

On September 11 2016 05:28 NeverUnlucky wrote:


You are literally being ignored. This goes to show that TT is a ML, nobody but Palmar and HF are defending the train. 2/6 is bad.

On September 11 2016 05:39 Superbia wrote:


He's saying you will shoot TT if you die. You can only shoot someone when you die if you're town.

On September 11 2016 05:41 Superbia wrote:


Naw if he's scum his team mates likely put some light defense on him, which is actually really smart.

On September 11 2016 05:42 Superbia wrote:


-> it implies HF is town.
-> Tumble is mafia reading HF.

Wrong conclusion.

On September 11 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:


Thank you for confirming I'm not scum to you anymore

On September 11 2016 05:52 Superbia wrote:
I'm actually going to be disappointed if TT flips mafia.

On September 11 2016 05:56 Superbia wrote:


What a shit post.

On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum

On September 11 2016 08:10 Damdred wrote:


Confrontational is a nai trait scum can be nice or mean and,the same as town. This is a non point

I have talked about whatever I wanted to,when,I was in,thread, the fights. Reads, my read on tt most,of,these things were ignored by you however.

Idk if voting is mandatory where you are, but jumping on at the end,has the least amount,of responsibilities and,if he brought,hf near tie and hf,flipped even more heat would be on him.

His decision making,process does not portray town trying to push or figure out anything. Like what he said about ignoring super shape etc but never pushes then himself and votes the person he was upset we were pushing.

That's not town.

On September 11 2016 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Nu is just a joker now, makes me laugh.

In any case @Shape I think what hi was looking for on a reread was him actually bringing things up about the others in the pool.

Lets be honest sky is good at making cases and I don't see it here, he's good with reasoning and while I can see consolidation being the answer it just doesn't make a lot of sense with how his stance was when he entered the thread.

And he was pre try side lines during,the lynch and most of the day (slight hypocritical at parts of,me,to say).

Do you disagree?

On September 11 2016 08:51 Shapelog wrote:
Just as I closed all the tabs, and was going to go back to catch up land. So I can go lie down, and not have to catch up tomorrow, since I know today I can tolerate playing.
*sigh*
FML

And tumble is better than what I have read bout of him so far. And he was town the last game, where he acted exactly like he is now.

I reread a further back. and I see what you mean by the [u] part.

From page 2 - 4 I found Several remarks of him stating Me/Palmar/Tumble or who ever was missing or not posting or what ever. But I have to agree that he really didn't do much about them, other then just throw out posts about it. Shade posts? but honestly why bother? In actives would get lynch anyways for PLs.

And as I read further back. I noticed something weird.



Into:

Both of which, he contradicted. He previously analysed one of TT's posts, and said HF+ things.

The problem is....is that i have no clue what the mafia motivation or agenda is for trying to get me/tumble/Palmar lynched over TT, other then the chance me/Tumble/Palmar steps up. And that is it. He is in a spot to push the TT lynch, yet doesn't, and goes back on the earlier points.

Now if TT was scum, I would have a reasoning. Skynx was trying to protect scum!buddy TT. But TT was town. There is so little he would achieve by doing it. And it is a High risk, lowish reward to get one of me/Tt/Palmar/U? lynched, and then get lynched for not having anything else.

All he would achieve is attention....

idk, the part i looked at made sense, but now that i found the quotes, I am confused on why the switch happen.

TLDR: it is off now that I look at it, but I cannot figure-out if it is necessarily scummy, since the mindset doesn't make sense.

On September 10 2016 01:01 Skynx wrote:


I mean first there is meta, from the games at least I've seen him play maf HF is very swingy and undecisive unless he's bussing.
Second, when I was going thru the thread I didn't like TT either 1st because of the entry 2nd for the post i quoted some way back. When you see someone one the same page as you they are usually town cuz scum somehow has to scumread people on wrong grounds.

Thats about it really, bare in mind I'm only in p12 so far.

On September 10 2016 01:06 Skynx wrote:
lol HF trolling the rest of the page ok maybe i can suspend my tr.

On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum

On September 11 2016 08:10 Damdred wrote:


Confrontational is a nai trait scum can be nice or mean and,the same as town. This is a non point

I have talked about whatever I wanted to,when,I was in,thread, the fights. Reads, my read on tt most,of,these things were ignored by you however.

Idk if voting is mandatory where you are, but jumping on at the end,has the least amount,of responsibilities and,if he brought,hf near tie and hf,flipped even more heat would be on him.

His decision making,process does not portray town trying to push or figure out anything. Like what he said about ignoring super shape etc but never pushes then himself and votes the person he was upset we were pushing.

That's not town.

On September 11 2016 22:27 Damdred wrote:
Nothing that's posted makes me scum and honestly calix is creating a narrative that just fits what they want to see.

Sk might be scum I'm not sure the inconsitincies are more scum leaning but not,sure.

Anyway I'll probably be around some,then be here later on Monday.

Also I expected more from you hf.

On September 11 2016 22:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:


"Damdred is 100% scum"

"He's right, I make good cases"

Make a case on him if you're that good and he's 100% scum.

On September 11 2016 05:16 Skynx wrote:
Calix, if there is no obv scum plynches are ok D1. HF is trying to paint TT as scum but just ignore that its a plynch.

On September 11 2016 22:37 Damdred wrote:


Why is being unsure at points scum indicative again?
You can give some generalized reason about scum finding it hard to make scum reads. But the problems I pointed out are real.

My town reads nu and shape think I am off base on my reasoning which I need to,check,into more.

On September 11 2016 22:48 NeverUnlucky wrote:


are you trolling

Shape doesn't agree with Damdred, Shape thinks you are town, mang.

On September 11 2016 23:01 Palmar wrote:
The more skynx talks about me being a good lynch yesterday the more I want to kill him.

On September 11 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Why did you say I only shitposted Skynx? I didn't post much, but I don't think much of what I posted was just shitty trolling. I actually think most of my posts are very reasonable and extremely intelligent.

On September 11 2016 23:08 Damdred wrote:

'
What does this even,mean. Sky misinterpreted what shape was saying I corrected him idk

On September 12 2016 06:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Superbia, HF, and Damdred were all pushing for a Calix lynch after TT's flip.

Calix scum-read Fuba, Skynx, Vivax, and Damdred.

Those are the ones I would look into first.

On September 12 2016 06:32 Holyflare wrote:


another person who hasn't read the thread

On September 12 2016 06:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Only TW and Damdred have given their opinion on the kill. I WANT EVERYONE TO GIVE THEIR OPINION.

On September 12 2016 06:04 Half the Sky wrote:
Scott's last will is as follows:

"Hey all, it's the elite man that shadowed with somebody here one time, so I should be recognized. I have faith in you. The leadership of ViennaVivax forces Jews to wear PileumPalmar cornutum,a cone-shaped head dress, in addition to the yellow badges Jews are already forced to wear."

Flip incoming.

On September 12 2016 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
why the fuck do I care?

maybe tw thought she was towniest
maybe mafia thought she was a medic dodge
maybe mafia thought she implicated someone
maybe mafia just wanted to kill a towny



no?

On September 12 2016 06:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:


Cone-shaped head dress = Shapelog too.

If that's scott's lw, he thinks it's Vivax/Shape/Palmar.

Skynx, what is your opinion on the kill?

On September 12 2016 06:43 Vivax wrote:


You're 70 years too late for that

On September 12 2016 06:47 Holyflare wrote:
i just thought they get turned into healers since there wasn't 2 kills and i saw someone else mention it

is nobody asking why there's only one kill?

On September 12 2016 06:49 Vivax wrote:


Wasn't intended to be racist omg don't pull that card thanks. Whoever wrote that message might as well not have enacted Godwins law posting it, and I'm a sucker for black humour.

On September 12 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:

I could believe it

On September 12 2016 07:00 Holyflare wrote:
because only good people have commented on it

On September 12 2016 08:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:

idk, thats what Skynx said. He knows Plamar better than me.

On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote:
the premise of this argument is that hf is scum. using the premise as backup, we can easily conclude that hf is indeed scum.
anyway

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known to some as holyflare, to others as hf, to his rl friends by some stupid rl name, but to tl as lynchbait slayer.
first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts?
the answer is no, holyflare. no.
this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm
throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass.
you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read.

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this is a reminder to go read grack's case. it is better.
hf also shows an amazing willingness to call obviously townie people scum for not getting onto his stupid wagon
his filter is 95% devoted to lynching townies if that says anything.

...

god, I can't do this anymore. I don't think this is a lost cause, but my entire case, I think, hinges on me being town. honestly, try being me and it's really fucking easy to see how hf is scum.
this is why I don't make big scum cases

On September 14 2016 04:04 Tumblewood wrote:
does anyone want to move to shape

On September 14 2016 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
I think Skynx is an excellent lynch because:

A) he's extremely likely to be mafia
B) we don't have to read his comments on every single post we've already read but 24 hours later

On September 14 2016 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
His read progression on tt was also some bs like "oh he's got scummy posts" into defending him from me and then into "oh tt is just a lurker vote" but all the while he town read me which is the biggest mafia trait of all.

On September 14 2016 04:37 Damdred wrote:
Answer the questions I posed to you skynx

On September 13 2016 13:11 Tumblewood wrote:
Welcome to The Scum Pool. I'm your host, Tumblewood von Trapp, and here are your contestants:

Holyflare
Claim to Fame:

• has cased town for almost his entire filter
  
• pisses me off constantly
  
• believes (or pretends to believe) with absurd confidence that he has found scum!tictock based off of literally 5 posts. does not sell it as a plynch even though it is nothing more
  
• more concerned with pushing his lynches than thinking about them
  

Other Notes
(this is the section where I temper my expectations)
I am no longer 100% certain that hf is scum. I think the fact that I couldn't case him reasonably is not just a reflection on my casing ability / his skill at shitting up the thread as scum but possibly caused in part by the fact that he is maybe not scum. This might be one of those shitty tunnels like on rels in names are hard or even moreso jat game where by the end I had nearly forgotten why he was scum. the more I think about it the more I want to lynch shape or damdred over him. don't misinterpret this as me thinking he is town though because I don't.

Shapelog
Claim to Fame:

• doing almost nothing the entire game
  
• no one seems to want to call him out or push him for it. constantly rests in the spot of "scummy but not important right now". (this reason is twofold: first, if he were town he would more likely be pushed by scum; second, studies suggest that if shapelog ever doesn't get votes all game he is almost always scum. this is a real thing and imo valid to base reads off of.)
  

Other Notes
I have no real reason to believe shapelog is town besides whatever I said at the start of the game, and that read no longer holds water 5 days and 1700 posts later.

Damdred
Claim to Fame:

• being really disappointing overall. more,explanation in notes
  
• being everyone's second,scumread besides nu who is town,and doesn't count (yes shut up this is a legitimate read)
  
• has not,evaluated anyone on their mindset at all. tsk
  

Other Notes
no I haven't read his filter since early D1 when I felt compelled to make a reads list but you have to admit damdred has been really disappointing this game. in,his town game he tries to step up and form a town,circle and,you can-- or at least I do-- usually identify him as town if he looks really town or if,he has his head way up his ass. this game he has been going through the motions but seemingly unmotivated to actually do anything.

Palmar
Claim to Fame:

• being a lazy shit
  
• and an idiot
  
• and really annoys me by calling me useless and ignoring the hypocrisy of that given how little he and several others have done in comparison to me.
  

Other Notes
obviously not conclusive evidence given how lazy and idiotic palmar can be as either alignment, but it's still scum-indicative and really quite accurate.

Superbia
Claim to Fame:

• *does nothing. comes back for 15 minutes every once in a while and posts 5 times with a combined 20 words. leaves*
  
• stupid bad push on calix after deadline. this read applies to holyflare too to a lesser extent.
  

Other Notes
besides fuba who I have made a mental note to look at again and vivax who I will not, superbia rounds out our list of background-y players. I don't have very much to say about him because he has done very little to give me an opinion on him.

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wow this post looks very pretty. I will do this more often. these are the five people within whom I think there are three scum. the top three are the most likely scum team. say stuff about it if you want

On September 14 2016 03:17 Damdred wrote:
@Skynx a couple questions,

1) You originally had shape in as a potential lynch target.

You then go into,the lynch read his filter and go nvm guys he's fine filter wasn't so,bad.

As night starts you then say oh nvm shape/Damdred +1. (You were also light defending me during the day and saying you might lynch me)

What caused this change on shape, (this was before shape thought you looked scummy)

Also why are you asking people about,me when you clearly had a s um read on me earlier in the day?

(this was before shape thought you looked scummy)

On September 14 2016 04:48 Superbia wrote:


You asked people to shennanie at EoD1?

Bye.

On September 14 2016 04:52 Superbia wrote:


You just literally said that your mindset was the complete opposite of what it was EoD1 with regards to TT.

On September 14 2016 05:05 Superbia wrote:


Not paying any attention. Not wanting to vote the big wagon on Damdred to save yourself.

Ok.

On September 14 2016 05:06 Superbia wrote:


That is?

On September 14 2016 05:10 Damdred wrote:
You still didn't answer my questions skynx you literally picked one thing I got a timestamp messed up on and then dodged everything else.

I just want you to say what you liked in shapes filter and why your progression on shape and myself went the way it did.

On September 14 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Yo said damdred was town last night what changed?

On September 11 2016 04:40 Skynx wrote:
Town almost 100% of the time: NU, Calix, fuba, Tumble
[green]Soft townies: Vivax, Damdred, HF, Grack[green]

Rest can be killed with fire which one I don't really care they are all equally bad.

Soft townies have some good some bad posts, they are more town then nulls however due to nature of their posts when they are active but not super towns due to some wierd stuff.
Those 4 townies I listed above should move together.

On September 11 2016 03:51 Skynx wrote:

Palmar, Shape, Super. Possibly Damdred.

On September 14 2016 05:13 Skynx wrote:

I did go last page -.-

On September 14 2016 04:44 Skynx wrote:

Bolded: no it wasn't

I scumread shape originally because he agreed on your scumread on me for no real reason then tried to push a meta sr on me + a cherry picked post about me giving HF insta tr for tunnel.

I don't know what you're saying after that.

Also why are you asking people about,me when you clearly had a s um read on me earlier in the day?

On September 14 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote:


Wait so you have me in your list of lunches 50 minutes before you town read me?

On September 14 2016 05:33 Palmar wrote:

good time to take break, well planned.

On September 14 2016 05:35 Palmar wrote:

lying about break noted.

On September 14 2016 05:40 Damdred wrote:


It's not the other way around though.

You literally say I might lynch Damdred and,not even an hour later you have me as soft town.

And now you are trying to pass it off like you town read me then scum read me d1 when,that isn't the case.

And in any respect you voted with me who you claim to,have thought was scum d1 near the end of d1.

On September 14 2016 05:49 Superbia wrote:
Skynx why are you still lurking?

On September 14 2016 05:53 Superbia wrote:


They're not really fighting either. =/

On September 14 2016 05:56 Skynx wrote:
Fuck me:

Shape/Super/Palmar

Damdy is town fuck fuck fuck

On September 14 2016 06:11 Palmar wrote:
this is acceptable.

On September 14 2016 06:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Only skimmed through the last 20 pages. I won't go back and read through them, I don't have the time to. (Playing two FMs at once)

Good job lynching scum.

Based on his flip, I'm inclined to think that Damdred and/or Skynx are mafia as well. Skynx was proposing a PL D1, and said that Shapelog's filter felt town, so he dismissed/diverted the possibility of this lynch. Damdred had some nicey-nice interaction with Shapelog.

Would anybody summarize the main things that happened @ EoD please?

On September 14 2016 07:33 Damdred wrote:
Imo skynx and tw are still possible.

I kinda want skynx to explain the sudden change of heart on me, maybe a doubles bus was there?

I'm not sure, I sort of think unless there is a check on him we might should look elsewhere right now.

On September 14 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote:


I didn't vote with them i voted for myself. I also voted before Skynx had even said anything. Damdy sounded towny and I simply voted the counter wagon. I didn't like some of his filter, i thought the vote could be wifom to put people off a team mate too.

Unless you think damdy is mafia too then I pretty much saved his life for no reason other than to look bad for voting with vivax who I'm not even scum reading incredibly much and less so if i decide damdred is town.

Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to

On September 14 2016 05:56 Skynx wrote:
Fuck me:

Shape/Super/Palmar

Damdy is town fuck fuck fuck

Simple fact is i voted mafia when i didn't need to

On September 15 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
??????????

"hf disproved all my logic and actually said it before me but he's still mafia"???????????????

???????????????

???????

On September 21 2016 06:29 Damdred wrote:
Sorry for lack luster performance, I thought I said a fee towniest things but overall I played badly. Can't wait to have my new phone, will not play until that occurs though.

Also to never and calix was super nice to play with you guys and hope to see you around more.

To skynx well our tunnels weren't good but once we realized it made some decent moves. Cheers

Live you hf.

Also I had the most amazing nee York strip while I was out for anniversary was amazing.

Ty rels for a great game

On September 21 2016 08:11 Holyflare wrote:


This makes me sad to not be remembered as the best player ever

Probably the worst games I've played ever! Read some of my profile, post count especially doesn't count. :D

On September 21 2016 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
Also Skynx i scum read you n2 because you had the exact same thought process as me, I had it before you and then you made an entire case on me being mafia for having the same thought process as you.

I even pointed out it was wrong and I had the thoughts first and you still scum read me.

Like you, I also weigh mind meld quite highly and that just didn't quite add up enough for me. No hard feelings though, I got the revenge for the vig shot in the palmar game, I hold no grudges

Nice save too ^^

On September 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
@Shape holy shit I am really sorry man.
@Calix did your QT name come from the Irish film of the same name?