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On September 11 2016 07:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Eh, I can see a world where Calix flips scum too. She had enough scumtells during the first 24h of D1 for me to think this way.

Overall I think that her tone, actions, and black sheeping overshadow the scum vibes she gave me at the start.

On September 11 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote:
Nu why is it again that sky can town hunt and you say he's scum hunting, but when I'm largely town hunting and trying to build what I think is the right group I am not?

And no I disagree with your conclusions over all on sky him voting tt especially when there was a movement away from tt (to a poont) is just scummy.

In fact he complains about people ignoring the other lurkers and never really brings much of anything worth talking about up just says the filter he checked wasn't that bad.

Then he bites someone who he really shouldn't given his filter. So no it's scum

On September 11 2016 21:04 Holyflare wrote:
Because you're scummy to me and I'm a great player and you do look like you pick the correct wifom every time despite everything we say and lots of good players agree and i don't rate tw as an amazing top tier player yet he made an entire weak case on you being town and keeps yelling about it and it's pretty much the only substantial thing that he's done other than arguing how tt wasn't mafia (again tmi) despite tt doing mafia looking things and afking. He basically shut down my posts by saying "no that's not what he's thinking" DESPITE tt actually saying that is what he was thinking meaning tw was defending tt WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HE SAID THIS GAME.

Tw's plan this game is defend people that don't need defending for no reason and push me.

Abd he's fucked up calling me town and he called tt town in a slip too although slips basically mean nothing but they're there.

Basically i lynch people that make cases that can't possibly be made with the information normal people have.

On September 11 2016 21:31 Holyflare wrote:
My shitty case is that you're town? Ok

On September 11 2016 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:

I don't really care as much about mafia Damdred as I do about mafia Palmar or Hf. he's good, but he doesn't push mislynches and it's not a personal point of pride to lynch him, if that makes sense.

On September 11 2016 19:04 Calix wrote:


This isn't part of the reason I am town-reading Skynx, but I don't like Damdred's push on Skynx either.

A. His first line (where he asks why Skynx town-clearing is townie but him doing that is scummy) would be fine taken by itself because he's pointing out a possible inconsistency. However, it fits in with his overall pattern of only commenting on things that relate to him. It doesn't look like he actually cares about pushing a scum-read (Skynx) because his focus is on NU treating him differently to Skynx. It is another example of Damdred only focusing on himself.

B. His points make no sense for him to use to scum-read Skynx when he himself admits that he was doing the same thing. According to his logic, that makes him scummy. If a townie was aware that they were doing questionable things, they would have rationalisations for why said things are helpful to the town.

Therefore, that townie would be more inclined to town-read players who are acting similarly to them, because they can relate to that behaviour and have an explanation fresh in their minds for why said player is acting like that. So let's say that town!Damdred didn't push on anyone at EOD because he was busy. He sees Skynx not pushing on anyone. He would be more likely to assume that Skynx wasn't pushing anyone because of time constraints too.

(bad example but I'm not saying this is what happened. I'm just trying to explain my thought process)

So given this, why wouldn't Damdred assume that Skynx also has similar reasoning for acting like he was instead of jumping to the explanation that makes Skynx scum?

C. This is another example of Damdred focusing on the easy targets in the thread:

- His town-reads match up with popular opinion.

- Sheep-voted on the shitty TT train, complete with horrible WIFOM conspiracy theories about scum bussing which cannot be backed up by anything in the thread. (focus on abstract theories > logical arguments)

- He never discussed other lynch targets in any of his EOD posts. Why? Because the shitty TT train was already locked in at that point so why would he need to? Even Skynx, Palmar, etc were discussing other candidates. Regardless of how shitty said discussion was, it's better than just settling for a TT vote with NO comment.

- After TT flipped, he threw shade on Grack and myself because "their defense of TT was weird" (which isn't the same as scum-motivated, just black sheep) and now focuses on Skynx after NU drew attention to this potential inconsistency. I have yet to see Damdred actually push a 'scum-read' BEFORE someone else did. Classic scum tactic of evading responsibility.

- Let's not forget the "don't blame the TT voters, blame the people off the train" post.

This was said AFTER HF and Superbia had made it clear that they were going to attack people off the TT train regardless of how TT flipped. Thus, this is a safe position for Damdred to take because he knows he'll have support in the thread already.

- I am aware that he suddenly flipped and defended me against Super because he was 'playing devil's advocate'. I have no idea what the fuck he was doing there but it didn't give me good vibes. If he did that after getting pushback against a Calix train then I'm even more inclined to think he's scum because it felt like an awkward and insincere backtrack.

On September 11 2016 22:15 Holyflare wrote:
Could be damd/tw

On September 11 2016 22:28 NeverUnlucky wrote:


You see no flaws with this, eh? What even makes you say that TW/Damdread are a scum team? What happened to the "pre-flip associations zzz" Calix?

I can agree with pushing Damdred. Right now I have a hangover, so you should push him for the time being, and I will take over when I don't feel dizzy.