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On September 10 2016 00:46 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote: HF is town for tunnel on TT easiest read so far. Tunneling is NAI.
On September 10 2016 00:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote: HF is town for tunnel on TT easiest read so far. What the fuck lol I mean first there is meta, from the games at least I've seen him play maf HF is very swingy and undecisive unless he's bussing. Second, when I was going thru the thread I didn't like TT either 1st because of the entry 2nd for the post i quoted some way back. When you see someone one the same page as you they are usually town cuz scum somehow has to scumread people on wrong grounds.
Thats about it really, bare in mind I'm only in p12 so far.
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Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least)
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On September 10 2016 01:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:53 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote: HF is town for tunnel on TT easiest read so far. What the fuck lol Yea that's a really shoddy read. On top of it, it can never be right to make such a call on someone like you. So far I don't see much novelty from Skynx, he's just piling up on the popular targets TT/TW and seems to TR almost everyone who goes after them or was involved in early game. Thats a meh accusation coming from you since i had an explanation behind most of my reads (except hf which i explained now since ppl are confused). If you feel like my reasoning behind reads are shit feel free to comment on them otherwise this is poor from you.
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lol HF trolling the rest of the page ok maybe i can suspend my tr.
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On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least)
I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am.
But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide.
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Also two people that are laying low so far are Grack and Shape.
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On September 10 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote: Also two people that are laying low so far are Grack and Shape. EBWOP: up to p13 that is
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On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide.
No.
It's not hypocritical when a) Vivax has not explicitly stated his scum-reads (whereas I did) and b) I only asked for explanations for his scum-reads, not town.
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On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least)
l vOn September 10 2016 00:11 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 00:03 Calix wrote: NU vs Skynx is getting dumb. All I'm seeing is NU conflating contribution with alignment and Skynx getting annoyed.
NU, maybe back off and see what Skynx does when they finish catching up/ are not playing Overwatch or what the fuck ever and then resume this. Alright. In the meantime, what are your reads? Already explained my scum reads. Not hurling up a reads list for the hell of it when all that does is give scum more information than necessary on how I operate. Ask a more specific question if you actually want to pry into my alignment. "What are your reads" is the most basic bitch type of question that only makes people regurgitate opinions without noting anything new.
zzz
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brb cooking and stuff plz comment on my stuff while i'm away so i can comment back especially NU since you wanted me to become active how do you feel about my reads?
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On September 10 2016 01:10 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide. No. It's not hypocritical when a) Vivax has not explicitly stated his scum-reads (whereas I did) and b) I only asked for explanations for his scum-reads, not town. It's still hypocritical, lol.
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On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least)
You and NU feel like most townie to me right now ironically. Not really anyone else I wanna call town yet, maybe Damdred but not really ticking it in until he posts more. Grack goes to temporary townpile just for drawing a paint pic.
Super I think is the sneakster mafia this game, the why is explained exhaustively. Everyone else is nullish/could be mafia/maybe not. I'm not making a call on TT or TW yet.
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On September 10 2016 01:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:10 Calix wrote:On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide. No. It's not hypocritical when a) Vivax has not explicitly stated his scum-reads (whereas I did) and b) I only asked for explanations for his scum-reads, not town. It's still hypocritical, lol.
Strong counterargument. I am utterly hapless to defend myself.
Tell me where Vivax has made his town/ scum-reads clear in his ISO and I'll recant.
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On September 10 2016 01:11 Skynx wrote: brb cooking and stuff plz comment on my stuff while i'm away so i can comment back especially NU since you wanted me to become active how do you feel about my reads?
They're very similar to the thread's consensus reads. That either means you are trying to blend in by agreeing with everyone, or those players have townslipped/scumslipped hard enough for a majority of people to share the same reads.
I like that you're trying, it doesn't make you town though. I needed to call you out for it for you to start posting content. I can see a town tone in your posts though. Null read for now.
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On September 10 2016 01:13 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 01:10 Calix wrote:On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide. No. It's not hypocritical when a) Vivax has not explicitly stated his scum-reads (whereas I did) and b) I only asked for explanations for his scum-reads, not town. It's still hypocritical, lol. Strong counterargument. I am utterly hapless to defend myself. Tell me where Vivax has made his town/ scum-reads clear in his ISO and I'll recant.
He did not. It's nonetheless hypocritical of you to call my question about reads basic/useless and then seeing you ask a fairly similar question to Vivax.
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Also the reason I asked Vivax for reads was because he made another comment (re: Skynx) where it seemed like he was suspecting Skynx but he hadn't actually said as much. I wanted some definitive positions from that slot because I was finding it hard to tell wherever Vivax was actually commenting on scum-reads or was throwing shade or whatever.
I'm glad I did because I'm not impressed with yet another person saying "NU/ Calix are both town" (which almost everyone agrees with, thus it's a safe position to take) complete with town-reading GRACK and having one scum-read on someone that he's only recently started to push.
And the cherry on the cake is remaining neutral in the TT/ TW debate. I don't see how you can have no insight on those two by now.
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Fuba looks scummish too. Like, he's just talking about stuff other people talk about. Joins a pop. wagon, is content with minimal activity.
On September 09 2016 21:32 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 20:41 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:37 Calix wrote:On September 09 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:On September 09 2016 20:26 Calix wrote:Yo. Doesn't look like much happened. What I got was: - Superbia is really townie given his setup-spec talk and stream-of-consciousness style posting and I don't see scum ever entering the thread like that. Also I agree with the reads he's posted. Palmar's flippancy is also kinda town although that might just be his personality. He wasn't amazingly involved in the setup talk but the way the conversation progressed made me feel good about him. - Don't like Grackaroni. It feels like he's just hanging on the sidelines; he wasn't very involved in the discussion and most of the posts I read while catching up seemed like he was posting for the sake of looking active. Like there were a lot of places where he could have posted something substantial and he just made some joke comment instead. - I don't like Tumblewood still. On September 09 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:On September 09 2016 11:00 Holyflare wrote: You shouldn't expect a follow up from Tumblewood that guy is 100% free madia lynch bait.
i'm just not gonna waste 4 hours explaining myself to some scrub who thinks he's caught me in a lie On September 09 2016 10:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 10:21 Tumblewood wrote: pls stop making me explain myself It's kind of the point of the game. If you have reads but can't express them, no one's going to follow them, and you're as useless as town-Palmar. Explain them. see? it's not even my reads that are unexplained. it's my non-reads. like I have to waste my time explaining why you're all scrubs and I'm not scum for saying something but not drawing a conclusion from it The worst post of this game and I've only read like 8 posts. but that makes it seem less bad if it's only one of 8 posts you've seen On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote: fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD sorry nvm you're scum + Show Spoiler [in case you couldn't tell] +that was a j o k e and I still think he is town can I just complain about new players for a sec? cause I'm reading some posts by NU and he keeps attacking people for being lazy. I get the intentions and that may or not be valid on your home site but here on TL lazy is the meta. it's like a competition for who can look the laziest each game. I want to sheep you hf but after last game I'm paranoid I'll take "avoiding the main points being raised against me" for £200, Alex. Add a dose of unnecessary off-topic whining about Teh N00bs. Oh noes. That last line is really scummy. It's the classic "oh I'll give lip service to lynching X scummy person but then I'll give some bullshit excuse to not follow up on it" scum tactic when the scum feel compelled to talk about their scummy partners but don't actually want to bus them - there is literally NO reason to not vote for Ticktock at this point in time. Paranoia isn't a logical excuse - wouldn't you want to clarify your suspicions by pressuring Ticktock? Why is no-voting better exactly? - The only point of Holyflare's that I find compelling is Ticktock's contradiction ("I find setup spec boring, here's some setup spec") since it makes his point look like filler. Everything else is just background noise compared to that point imo. tl;dr: Grackaroni/ Tumblewood/ Ticktock are my scum-reads and the fact that they are low-key defending each other just makes me feel more confident that lynching among these three is the best option. So: - I'm town - My one townread is town. - All my mafia reads are mafia. Good reads. In all seriousness, nice pocket regardless of your alignment. Townpass-ish! What do you think of NeverUnlucky? You've played with him before, right? I have. He's a scrub but he's town. He's more proactive and abrasive compared to his scum play. He gets mislynched a lot given he's presumptuous, arrogant, prone to trolling, has poor persuasion abilities, etc, so I am not surprised that he's under some suspicion. I am also 99% sure that he's read like, one or two past games on this site and that's why he's acting like he knows what everyone's meta is. Recently, he read one of my scum games from five months ago and now thinks he's an expert. That's how he rolls. Is he prone to be abrasive and yet form no actual opinion on someone? He calls TW 'lynchbait', which suggests he is TRing him, but nothing suggests he is reaching any actual conclusion. Seems weird to put seemingly that much energy/emotion into something but reach no real conclusion. This was the one thing that really stood out to me from last night. He seems to be, at best, town reading TW and at worst, accidentally admitting he knows TW is town. I'm willing to trust calix's meta knowledge atm though. Would revisit him if something crazy happens or TW does end up flipping town. In any case, ticktock not returning after dinner last night makes me feel even better about my vote.
This is probably his best post content wise and still, it makes his filter appear lacking. He seems to have a strong opinion about Calix being town, so it kinda bothers me he doesn't have one on me, being in the club of people pushing her for the early fluff. He just seems overall content to sit on the wagon and chitchat a bit. And overall he's one of the more forgettable players so far.
Probs not a surefire way of telling he's scum, but enough for the usually shitty D1 lynch.
Then I see this post tho
[QUOTE]On September 09 2016 09:22 fuba wrote: [QUOTE]On September 09 2016 08:17 Vivax wrote: The calix issue for me is that she was so intent on proceeding to splitting atoms with me when I pointed it out.
I'd have felt better about the post if I just had gotten back as answer "alright it's fluffy but I wanted to talk about setup so it's obvious that it's going to be fluffy" instead of her defending the points she made so rabidly (for example in fear of
And he actually believed the point on Cali was good. His opinion must have changed in between, that's a given. Or he forgot about his claimed read when it was still a thing in the thread to suspect calix. Either way, not much followup on this post read wise.
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On September 09 2016 09:22 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 08:17 Vivax wrote: The calix issue for me is that she was so intent on proceeding to splitting atoms with me when I pointed it out.
I'd have felt better about the post if I just had gotten back as answer "alright it's fluffy but I wanted to talk about setup so it's obvious that it's going to be fluffy" instead of her defending the points she made so rabidly (for example in fear of looking bad if not able to defend them).
It's early enough for me to still chill and force silent people to post without having to jump into tunnels, so I'll just judge calix based on other stuff as well, but this will definitely be an argument should I decide for myself that she's mafia. Actually a good point, may have to reexamine your argument when I get out of class. And I've used my 2 15 minute break to at least say something about the game (regardless of how minimal it is). Not sure I fit with anyone who's trolled or called everyone boring and skipped off.
EBWOP, fubas post: (My net is so slow it didn't fully load the quote lol)
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On September 10 2016 01:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 01:02 Calix wrote: Vivax, if you had to pick two scum-reads and two town-reads, who would you pick?
And why? (for the scum-reads at least) I feel like calling you an incredibly massive hypocrite and in fact I am. But you're from the UK so I'll let it slide.
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Fuba is too self aware at being crappy for me to call him mafia.
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