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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 21:25 GMT
#1401
On October 04 2016 06:19 Calix wrote:
I don't like bussing, lol. I maintain that it's an inferior strategy and definitely not something I often do as scum.

Lemme introduce you to my brotha Shapelog here.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
October 03 2016 21:25 GMT
#1402
But no, Busing is horrible, and should never be done unless needed. And has to be done properly to actually look good/give you cred.

Voting Fuckery and screwing over voting logic is much more better to invest time in as scum learning to do, then bussing. Bussing makes a scum person lazy.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 03 2016 21:25 GMT
#1403
One day, I will actually live to see a 2v1 LYLO scenario...maybe.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
October 03 2016 21:26 GMT
#1404
On October 04 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:19 Calix wrote:
I don't like bussing, lol. I maintain that it's an inferior strategy and definitely not something I often do as scum.

Bullshit

I only have won 1/2 game without bussing.
Won 3/3 games with bussing.

Bussing = greatness.

note that in the one game you didnt bus, you also had me on xour team!
and town had holyflare :D
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
October 03 2016 21:28 GMT
#1405
On October 04 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
well yes that kinda is a fhing.

i would lynch rels in lylo like 10/10 times.
unless there is also somone else who i would lxnch in lylo 10/10 times


probably me if I was playing.

would also lynch you in lylo 10/10 times scumformation
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
October 03 2016 21:29 GMT
#1406
On October 04 2016 06:25 Calix wrote:
One day, I will actually live to see a 2v1 LYLO scenario...maybe.

Lol.
On April 16 2016 07:14 Palmar wrote:
Endgame

[image loading]

Important announcement!

It's been weeks since we lost contact with the expedition party, but today something incredible has happened. For the first time in history, since the first supernatural storm we have a survivor!

The lone survivor of the expedition was found wandering through the desert. Shapelog will definitely be the hero this country needs to rally around in face of an open rebellion and supernatural threats. He will be of course be promoted to an important advisory role within the military.

Our hearts and thoughts are with the families of those who died in the third storm.


....


....







[image loading]

What the government never realized is that Shapelog was himself a member of the rebellion. Having set himself up in a high ranking position within the military he immediately started sabotaging the government and spying for the rebels. The government fell only a month after Shapelog's arrival from the desert.

He was some kind of a hero, but not for the good citizens of the country...


Damdred the Combat Medic has been killed
scott31337 the Quickdraw has been killed

Shapelog the Rebel Security Officer has won the game.

The rebellion has won

The town has lost
The alien invasion swarm has lost





Thanks everyone for playing, it was a fun game to moderate despite a hiccup there in the middle. I will post explanations and answer questions for some hours. Thanks to my co-hosts, and special thanks to rayn for stepping in when marv and I were short on time. Thanks to all the observers and players.

Link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SmKHl2oKRR75n3o2hNoXl4cmAJulbxFniLmi2U055CA/pubhtml



Honestly through, it all depends on how you set yourself up for the late game, AND how active you are in that last phase. I even would say the latter in more important in the 3 times I reached LYLO (by myself) as mafia, mostly due to town nerves.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
October 03 2016 21:30 GMT
#1407
On October 04 2016 06:25 Calix wrote:
One day, I will actually live to see a 2v1 LYLO scenario...maybe.


it can be very intense if everyone is fighting.

read the original haunted mansion for an intense 3:1 mylo situation, town were so off target, the lone mafia played really well and bussed like a champ.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
October 03 2016 21:31 GMT
#1408
On October 04 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:19 Calix wrote:
I don't like bussing, lol. I maintain that it's an inferior strategy and definitely not something I often do as scum.

Bullshit

I only have won 1/2 game without bussing.
Won 3/3 games with bussing.

Bussing = greatness.

note that in the one game you didnt bus, you also had me on xour team!
and town had holyflare :D

Town having Holyflare that game, was basically a free scum win due to how he played lol.

we did do good though.

Eh,

I have pondered honestly how I would of preformed in Haunted 3, had it not be for RL issues that came up. I doubt I honestly would of lived till maybe D3-4 depending on what I posted.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
October 03 2016 21:39 GMT
#1409
On October 04 2016 06:28 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
well yes that kinda is a fhing.

i would lynch rels in lylo like 10/10 times.
unless there is also somone else who i would lxnch in lylo 10/10 times


probably me if I was playing.

would also lynch you in lylo 10/10 times scumformation

oh yeah right.
you living longer than like n2 is conf!scum.

i have a bad feeling ill start dying sooner as town too.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2016 21:39 GMT
#1410
GG WP town & scum!

Xata & Calix, I understand being out of motivation completely, but you had a real shot at winning. It would have been a tense last few days for every player I think.

Thanks for the game hosts. Was well hosted, apart from the check fuckup which was kinda funny p:
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 21:40 GMT
#1411
Some analysis:

Losing RB D1 is tough :/ Mostly big credit to SEQ here who nailed Luna on the instant.
Bussing is debatable here, altho it was a solid choice imo. Sometimes teams run D1 bussing all the way to the victory straightup. You guys both got solid towncred from it and it wasn't linkable to you getting scumread at all.

As the game progresses people are gona wonder why their top townread are not getting nk'd Calix so yeah as disfo mentioned last wills are so important when you are highly tr'd
Xata I think you did great to amend for that push on me and got some credit for townly tone, if you bussed Calix today i think I'd never lynch you.

ptmc, SEQ and TT did fantastic in general.
Super was quite town.
Jealous was a bit slacking
I guess Has and Stutters were avoidable but they didn't do enough to defend so oh well.
I never got to read Scott and Dan in the end

Jealous greencheck was a bit sad but it kinda just ended up me getting away with bit of laziness tbh

GG guys

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 03 2016 21:44 GMT
#1412
On October 04 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:
Yeah, I saw people doing that in my first game here although I didn't bother myself. (died N1)

Not sure if it's a habit that I'll get into though - I am lazy when it comes to night phases because my reads are liable to flip-flopping after a night kill - but I'll try to keep it in mind and post a short LW or some updated thoughts or whatnot.

I really hope the "she hasn't died by Day X, must be scum" argument doesn't get used against me again. I've had that thrown at me back on the old site if I lived past N1 and it was always annoying to deal with >_>


if that happens here i'd be quite surprised. there are enough good players that no one should be an auto N1 kill...though the past D3/D4 argument still has a lot of traction here for a fair percentage of players
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2016 21:46 GMT
#1413
Fucking awesome play by TT all game too
WP mate
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 21:48 GMT
#1414
Xatalos
09-26-2016
02:52 PM ET (US)
Hah...


Rels Profile PM Joined August 2008 France8927 Posts
17 minutes ago #742
On September 27 2016 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Both Scott and Jeal look alright to me why ppl wanna lynch them?

One of the bussers is prolly one of the highly townread pace controllers aka Xata/Rels/Calix.

I might have some time in evening.

This is an awful post.
What happened to your DYH super scumread ?
If you wanna counter poeple scumread on scott / Jeal read them and counter them.
Xata in not really a pace controller. He even was against me and Dan questionning Lunatic at the beginning of the game.
If one of Calix / I were scum this lynch would never had happened.

Rofl I forgot about this
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2016 21:51 GMT
#1415
On October 04 2016 06:48 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
Xatalos
09-26-2016
02:52 PM ET (US)
Hah...


Rels Profile PM Joined August 2008 France8927 Posts
17 minutes ago #742
On September 27 2016 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Both Scott and Jeal look alright to me why ppl wanna lynch them?

One of the bussers is prolly one of the highly townread pace controllers aka Xata/Rels/Calix.

I might have some time in evening.

This is an awful post.
What happened to your DYH super scumread ?
If you wanna counter poeple scumread on scott / Jeal read them and counter them.
Xata in not really a pace controller. He even was against me and Dan questionning Lunatic at the beginning of the game.
If one of Calix / I were scum this lynch would never had happened.

Rofl I forgot about this

AWFUL
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2016 21:59 GMT
#1416
Also, best post in the thread:
On October 01 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2016 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
On October 01 2016 03:00 Calix wrote:
On September 30 2016 02:27 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 29 2016 15:05 ptmc wrote:
So stutters is modkilled at EON?

Sorry guys. I got really busy.

Just a warning this time. Won't be modkilled.


Jesus tit-sucking Christ, that's a shameless mod-dodge if I ever saw one. Doesn't even comment on the fucking game.

At this point, he needs to be policy-lynched now rather than later to clear shit up. He's a black hole that makes it difficult to judge other players and the discussion around him is getting stale because he does nothing.

He's already survived two days longer than he should have done and that was back when he was actually posting.


Gotta admit that his play has been subpar at best... It's subpar as either alignment though, not merely subpar as town.


It's a bloody good thing I went out for a walk in a park today. I have some lovely pictures of hedges which remind me of your posts.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 03 2016 22:04 GMT
#1417
Man so sorry I literally had the biggest smirk on my face reading through scum qt
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 03 2016 22:04 GMT
#1418
On October 04 2016 05:29 Calix wrote:
In general, I think I was way too focused on 'looking townie' with my posting and thus I didn't do enough pushing of mafia objectives. Thus I'm concluding that I played terribly.

I'll take tips from anyone


Anyone includes me?

Oh, nice.

A mistake that both you and Xata committed was that you over-credited one of your posts. For you, it was that post where you stated that Lunatic had undoubtedly been bussed. You said something like "This is the best post in the game so far."
Before this post I was sure as hell that you were town. I still thought you were town afterwards because of my initial read bias, but this post still was to your disadvantage.

For Xata it was that terrible post of the possible scumteams. He put so much effort into it and drew so much attention to it that it threw me off for it was a bad post.

I also noticed that you were once again strategically lurking this game, being present only at the most opportune times like in BFN. Meta wise you weren't the town leader you are on our home site. You were more sheepy and interrogative much like Unknown. Most if not all of your scum-reads were low volume posters.

I am sorry I cannot give you tips on how to improve (I am bad at scum), but if I can draw your attention to some pieces of your play, it may help you pin point what needs to be improved.

Mind you, I town-read both of you because I am bad (Hats off to you both for that). Point stands that this point threw me off.

Good game everyone. Was a pleasure to spectate.
Good game everyone.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2016 22:04 GMT
#1419
The end of scum QT was pretty depressing to read.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 03 2016 22:05 GMT
#1420
On October 04 2016 06:59 Rels wrote:
Also, best post in the thread:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On October 01 2016 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
On October 01 2016 03:00 Calix wrote:
On September 30 2016 02:27 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 29 2016 15:05 ptmc wrote:
So stutters is modkilled at EON?

Sorry guys. I got really busy.

Just a warning this time. Won't be modkilled.


Jesus tit-sucking Christ, that's a shameless mod-dodge if I ever saw one. Doesn't even comment on the fucking game.

At this point, he needs to be policy-lynched now rather than later to clear shit up. He's a black hole that makes it difficult to judge other players and the discussion around him is getting stale because he does nothing.

He's already survived two days longer than he should have done and that was back when he was actually posting.


Gotta admit that his play has been subpar at best... It's subpar as either alignment though, not merely subpar as town.


It's a bloody good thing I went out for a walk in a park today. I have some lovely pictures of hedges which remind me of your posts.


That post was pretty good, but then again, it was also not. Who knows? I certainly don't seem to know my own opinion
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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