Newbie Student Mafia XXIII - Page 69

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

October 03 2016 20:49 GMT

#1361

WoW didn't expect that.

On October 04 2016 05:20 Calix wrote:
Also this means that TT tried to use "Calix is scum for being logical" as an argument without the excuse of a red check.

I'm dying.

I was so close to checking you actually, if it weren't for your early vote on Lunatic I prob would have.

I did check Xat, so that's funny.

Calix

3379 Posts

October 03 2016 20:50 GMT

#1362

On October 04 2016 05:43 rsoultin wrote:

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Nowhere lol >< Some are really good at it? Chez and VA come to mind. But you'll have people who have been doing this for years and still can't find blues to save their lives

Looks like I'll be falling into the latter category then. Man, I really thought I was onto something with Jealous xD

I dislike associative reads in general. (although I use them occasionally because I am hypocritical) Generally I stick to 'normal' scum-hunting and just use what people have posted. Best way to get around scum bussing each other and the like imo.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

October 03 2016 20:51 GMT

#1363

Oh and nice, I thought you were the medic Synx with that "TT you are 100% town"

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

October 03 2016 20:53 GMT

#1364

Also any tips, questions or remarks regarding hosting?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

October 03 2016 20:53 GMT

#1365

On October 04 2016 05:50 Calix wrote:

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well i mean it's a bit early to call it quits!

and yeah, some players are pretty good at disassociating, too. that's one of glowingbear's greatest strengths

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

October 03 2016 20:54 GMT

#1366

On October 04 2016 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also any tips, questions or remarks regarding hosting?

not enough kisses

Calix

3379 Posts

October 03 2016 20:54 GMT

#1367

Aside from that mistake with the cop check (which only meant that Skynx was more resistant to lynching Jealous), I think you did a pretty decent job.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

October 03 2016 20:54 GMT

#1368

On October 04 2016 05:54 rsoultin wrote:

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not enough kisses

And now?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

October 03 2016 20:54 GMT

#1369

On October 04 2016 05:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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rofl. can't say I haven't been there already....I changed my tracker check in star wars four times in one night phase.

know exactly how you feel there.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

October 03 2016 20:54 GMT

#1370

On October 04 2016 05:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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And now?

game's over...too late xP

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

October 03 2016 20:55 GMT

#1371

On October 04 2016 05:54 rsoultin wrote:

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game's over...too late xP

Calix

3379 Posts

October 03 2016 20:55 GMT

#1372

On October 04 2016 05:53 rsoultin wrote:

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On October 04 2016 05:50 Calix wrote:

On October 04 2016 05:43 rsoultin wrote:

On October 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:

On October 04 2016 05:33 NocturneMage wrote:
jesus I couldn't even tell what was going on myself when calix wanted to concede and xata kept playing on, but I think scum should have been prepared for tictock's reaction test or whatever play he was doing to go either way.

I can't argue with the concede - it would have taken two nights for us to knock the prot off before the cop and we were all off on who was prot. almost certain she'd have been redchecked before then.

at one point with the rels kp I thought it was a veteran in the game and not a doc when in reality the damn doc forgot to submit a check.

really unlucky there. the rels kill did allow the d3 mislynch to happen, so they made the most of that.

calix it was a pleasure coaching you, like I said, a lot of good takeaways, I think everyone needs to work on bluesniping but honestly it's hard, even having had people mentor me on that, it's quite hard to do and people who are good can wifom it away.

gg wp town.

also if our qt is shared here (don't care really), xata/luna, don't take offence at my criticism of your posts - just that you lot are a team, and that calix had to work around your posts as a result. all part and parcel there.

You were a great coach too. It was really nice being able to talk through ideas with another person and get a different perspective on things from someone who knows the site meta better.

Where does one go to learn how to TPR-hunt properly? I am so clueless there. We even had TT on N2 but managed to talk ourselves out of that to hit Rels instead.

Nowhere lol >< Some are really good at it? Chez and VA come to mind. But you'll have people who have been doing this for years and still can't find blues to save their lives

well i mean it's a bit early to call it quits!

and yeah, some players are pretty good at disassociating, too. that's one of glowingbear's greatest strengths

Half the mafia chat is me arguing with Xatalos over wherever the mafia team were fucked or not.

Then we assumed that I had been red-checked due to TT tinfoiling me out of nowhere and we had already decided that one of us dying on D4 would mean that we would auto-lose, so that was that.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

October 03 2016 20:57 GMT

#1373

On October 04 2016 05:55 Calix wrote:

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On October 04 2016 05:53 rsoultin wrote:

On October 04 2016 05:50 Calix wrote:

On October 04 2016 05:43 rsoultin wrote:

On October 04 2016 05:41 Calix wrote:

Nowhere lol >< Some are really good at it? Chez and VA come to mind. But you'll have people who have been doing this for years and still can't find blues to save their lives

well i mean it's a bit early to call it quits!

and yeah, some players are pretty good at disassociating, too. that's one of glowingbear's greatest strengths

lol i meant about the blue hunting

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

October 03 2016 20:57 GMT

#1374

calix, my only other advise to you for next time - and I didn't say this in the coaching qt so this is kinda my fault too - you should get in the habit of posting some last wills in night phase. time it for 2259 or close to that and post. as you get more advanced here, some people may think if you are confident enough you won't get killed it means you are probably scum. no one said anything on that point as you are a newbie, but it's something to consider as you get more games here.

edit: last wills are your reads on people. as town you want one last word in there before anticipating getting killed.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 03 2016 21:01 GMT

#1375

On October 04 2016 05:49 Tictock wrote:
WoW didn't expect that.

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I was so close to checking you actually, if it weren't for your early vote on Lunatic I prob would have.

I did check Xat, so that's funny.

That was pretty funny

Calix

3379 Posts

October 03 2016 21:02 GMT

#1376

Yeah, I saw people doing that in my first game here although I didn't bother myself. (died N1)

Not sure if it's a habit that I'll get into though - I am lazy when it comes to night phases because my reads are liable to flip-flopping after a night kill - but I'll try to keep it in mind and post a short LW or some updated thoughts or whatnot.

I really hope the "she hasn't died by Day X, must be scum" argument doesn't get used against me again. I've had that thrown at me back on the old site if I lived past N1 and it was always annoying to deal with >_>

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 03 2016 21:03 GMT

#1377

On October 04 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:
Yeah, I saw people doing that in my first game here although I didn't bother myself. (died N1)

Not sure if it's a habit that I'll get into though - I am lazy when it comes to night phases because my reads are liable to flip-flopping after a night kill - but I'll try to keep it in mind and post a short LW or some updated thoughts or whatnot.

I really hope the "she hasn't died by Day X, must be scum" argument doesn't get used against me again. I've had that thrown at me back on the old site if I lived past N1 and it was always annoying to deal with >_>

Solution: smurf?

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

October 03 2016 21:04 GMT

#1378

On October 04 2016 05:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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Xata -> Calix -> Scott -> Xata

I was pretty on point despite even going back and forth so much.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

October 03 2016 21:04 GMT

#1379

On October 04 2016 05:57 NocturneMage wrote:
calix, my only other advise to you for next time - and I didn't say this in the coaching qt so this is kinda my fault too - you should get in the habit of posting some last wills in night phase. time it for 2259 or close to that and post. as you get more advanced here, some people may think if you are confident enough you won't get killed it means you are probably scum. no one said anything on that point as you are a newbie, but it's something to consider as you get more games here.

edit: last wills are your reads on people. as town you want one last word in there before anticipating getting killed.

while i was complaining about the lack of last will posts, i am not sure what the point of making these things :59 posts is. only mskes it easier to post after silent post on accident

Half the Sky

Germany9029 Posts

October 03 2016 21:05 GMT

#1380

GG everyone. Calix, nice go on your first try as scum.

I had Luna (having coached him) and Xatalos (strong mafia meta read, he hedges to the extreme as mafia plus lack of follow through in a lot of points) down relatively easy. There was also too strong an associative read between him and Luna as well.

I'm probably going to get slapped around for this, but my one critique of hosting is aimed at something Artanis said in the obs QT. Medic and veteran setup is not balanced unless you give Mafia a strongman shot in a closed setup (strongman is a free vig shot that surpasses protection, and it not necessarily a role unlike the vigilante) and to an extent even that is debatable. Mafia have 20% chance of hitting prot (barring a situation where medic prots vet which is 1/12 anyhow). At extreme swinginess you have scum hitting the medic save and/or a vet in multiple phases.

I think the compromise for mafia sounded okay...but I just personally triple check the crap out of my role sheet before issuing information. Of course if the role sheet itself was wrong...doh.

Just my input there

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