Newbie Student Mafia XXIII - Page 40

He continues on like this until Lunatic does the blue read and all that jazz. He literally forces a mistake from mafia by sheer pressure.

You're right he should be top tier actually but i dunno some stuff in my mind prevented that. I'm actually so fkin tired.

While I agree that he is likely town, I think you're giving him too much credit here. He wasn't the only person pushing Lunatic in the manner that you described above - this leads me to conclude that SEQ was part of the collective pressure on Lunatic, not that SEQ was the sole player who was pressuring Lunatic prior to the TPR post.

Tired, huh? All I have to do to relate is to read your posts

But I'd like a more fleshed-out read if we're both still alive in like 20 fucking minutes, lol.

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

September 26 2016 21:52 GMT

#783

On September 27 2016 06:35 Calix wrote:

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On September 27 2016 06:29 Skynx wrote:

On September 27 2016 06:19 Calix wrote:
If you think that mafia would find it impossible to push Lunatic like SEQ did (will check in a moment) then what stops him from being in your god-tier town bracket?

On September 25 2016 11:56 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.

Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.

Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.

Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.

I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.

This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!

This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.

Thanks for the read though not sure how you arrived on that conclusion on the obvious townie part of Stutters, would like some elaboration please.
but the rest of the post feels like it is filled with filler. Don't get the point of it.

This is the first post him pushing Lunatic, like only few hours into game.

On September 25 2016 12:30 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

On September 25 2016 01:51 Lunaticman wrote:
Im going to concert so the TLDR, is tone/meta/activity. Stutters has shown more intrest and activity in the first day than recent games combined.

Of course he has a power role, and from context I dont think he is mafia.

I am kind of suprised by how this escelated from a simple townread. It feels like someone doesnt want to build a town circle and jerk peoples chain instead.

& what is wrong with jerking people's chain approach exactly???

On September 25 2016 12:41 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

On September 25 2016 07:50 Lunaticman wrote:
You clearly didnt read the whole thing ptmc because I got pressured into saying Stutters was a blue read by rels and Da.

They called me scum for it and I saw no positive outcome in hiding the information since he could br killed by being a townread player anyway. No matter how you spin it you can make anyone look scummy.

Im going to sleep now and Im putting my vote on Da so I dont miss it.

Confused here. How does one get pressured into a blue read? Your read is your read, f*ck everyone else's opinion unless you are unsure. ^_^ (though I may have interpreted this part, oopsie if I did)
also note: just because you do scummy things, you shouldn't change your actions/thoughts for other people, playing to someone else's ways is going to make you look a hellava scummier player by being unsure of your playstyle.

But I'd like a more fleshed-out read if we're both still alive in like 20 fucking minutes, lol.

I'll go back and check later on but pretty sure like 3 of the initial 5 votes on Luna at 1st half came after he dropped the blue-read bomb, after that its super easy for anyone playing the game to sr Luna. When SEQ pushes him to make a mistake as mafia lol I mean that only happens when like they decided straight away for the specific tactics in qt and i think its very minimal %.

OK really off now, nn ^^

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

September 26 2016 21:59 GMT

#784

RIP rels

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

September 26 2016 22:00 GMT

#785

Day 2

Superbia the Vanilla Town has been shot! You have until Wednesday, Sep 28 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to vote for your preferred lynch.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

September 26 2016 22:00 GMT

#786

That's an interesting kill - could be a dodge though.

Welp DYH Shall we chat?

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

September 26 2016 22:03 GMT

#787

Or they believed his blue post.. ehehehehe

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

September 26 2016 22:04 GMT

#788

On September 26 2016 23:11 Superbia wrote:
Boy I do hope scum doesn't figure out I'm a PR.

Some one that may have been around after this post? Hmmm
Could be lurkers too, I shouldn't think too much of it.

Calix

3379 Posts

September 26 2016 22:06 GMT

#789

Superbia hadn't done a great deal in terms of pushing player so probably a medic dodge or targeting experienced players or something like that.

Not worth dwelling on right now - too much WIFOM involved with early night kills. I doubt it'll be productive until like, Day 4 and even that's a crapshoot.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

September 26 2016 23:21 GMT

#790

On September 27 2016 07:00 scott31337 wrote:
That's an interesting kill - could be a dodge though.

Welp DYH Shall we chat?

Sure

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

September 26 2016 23:29 GMT

#791

On September 27 2016 03:58 Rels wrote:
So so scummy that I will commit my time to do a case on him. Let it be my last will.

DYH is scum and here is why

1. His attitude this game. Passive, has no reads nor will to solve the game.

Nowhere in this game DYH has tried to find scum.
His opener is bland. Two convos posts with Stutters, a few unexplained townreads, and voilà.
He had a few reads during the last half of D1. Everyone of them is scummy. Gonna expand on the other parts.
Finally, this:

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He has no scumreads, and it is not because he admits that it erases the scuminess.
Plus, it is not his meta. I played with town!DYH, and the dude was low activity but doing cases on people and being a real force in the thread. He got the most tryhard scum lynched (HTS), he got me lynched too (I was town) when I had like quadruple the number of posts.

2. This conversation was fabricated:
The first read DYH gives is done in a pretty suspicious way:

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DYH baited a conversation with that question. But when Stutters didn't take the bait, he gave his read anyway. It is forced, it is scummy. Town don't interact that way.

3. His attitude towards Lunatic
DYH displayed the perfect busser attitude here. He had a very superficial read on Lunatic, agreeing that he needed to be lynched, but not analyzing anything:

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Being part of the wagon on his teammate, without really analyzing him.
But that didn't stop him from giving read on Dan and Jealous BASED ON their attitude on Lunatic. This is symptomatic of a teammate; acknowledging that the teammate is scum, but instead of talkinga bout him, talking about how others persuaded him. His entire Dan and Jealous reads are based on their treatements of Lunatic:
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On September 25 2016 10:16 DoYouHas wrote:

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On September 25 2016 10:15 Jealous wrote:

On September 25 2016 00:23 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 23:53 DanelerH wrote:
I am not liking Lunaticman right now. First of all, basically all Lunatic has done is posted a random Town read. Let's take a look at it:

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:

Lunaticman just throws a random Town-read in the middle of a bunch of irrelevant information. Furthermore, xe doesn't give any reasoning for the Town-read. When asked about it, xe responded with this series of posts:

On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:

On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/

Interesting idea. What does this achieve?
Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^

Also hi there.
I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you.
I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night.

Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis.

I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely.

As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself)

Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense.

Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange:

On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:

On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:
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I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early.

This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.

Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention.

Stutters:

Calix:
You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test?

My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play.

Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation.

It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here.

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:

What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread?

Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?

Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here?

If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone?

Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain

Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:

On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:

On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:
Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in.

I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff.

[quote]

Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis.

I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely.

As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself)

Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense.

Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange:

[quote]

Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention.

[quote]

Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation.

It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here.

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What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread?

Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?

Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain

Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though.

That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read.

On September 24 2016 21:20 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 20:51 Rels wrote:

On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:

On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:

On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Please explain

Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though.

That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read.

Why woudln't I do such a thing ?
So apparently you think I'm scum ?

No I didn't say that you are scum I just find it suspect why I have to tell you why I town read him even though I don't want to yet.

There is no reason not to give your reasoning for a Town-read. I want to know why you think Shutters is Town and I will not accept "I'll tell you later" as an answer.

The game is 4 pages long day one, take a chill pill. I dare to say I have done more than half the players in the game and in my experience you never hit mafia day one. It is much better to build a town circle.

Also Stutters is in all likelyhood a blue role. And if he dies it is on you and Rels.

Am I crazy for thinking this is an anti town post? Making Stutters out to be blue role with no nuance is downright retarded.

It is absolutely anti-town. Do you think it is bad play or scum?

On September 25 2016 10:53 DoYouHas wrote:
So is it bad enough that you would want to lynch him or do you currently have a stronger scum read on someone else currently?

On September 25 2016 11:09 DoYouHas wrote:
@Jealous, are you in and out? Why is it taking you this long to respond to me?

On September 26 2016 03:58 DoYouHas wrote:

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Activity levels are low and there are better lynch targets than you, especially if your going to ramp up.

DH's tunnel onto Luna is very contrived with no follow through. Pair that with his questionable early posting and it feels like scum to me. Maybe he brings something to the table before deadline now, but it feels like he tunneled just long enough to get the spotlight on someone else then disappeared.

Luna made an anti-town play and has essentially shut down since coming under the displeasure of the thread, making him a very reasonable lynch and possible scum. I don't think making a meta read is in any way alignment indicative but I appear to be in the minority on that.

Jealous started with fluff, then stirred the pot, and finished by being super non-commital. Townies should be trusting there own judgement over that of people's whose alignments are uncertain. Also potentially scum.

On September 26 2016 04:04 DoYouHas wrote:

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I don't think Luna and Dane are likely to be scum together, but taking there play individually I think either of them could be scum here. Is that what you meant?

This is partner indicative.

Conclusion
LYNCH

Good lord you are bad at reading me.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

September 27 2016 00:22 GMT

#792

Response to Rels:

#1. I actually had 3 people I thought were likely scum D1. I also gave 4 town reads. I can't really respond to you saying everyone one of my reads is scummy since I don't know what that means.

I currently have no scum reads. I think I was wrong on Jealous and I'm not going to just jump to another person until I reassess the game. This just is what it is. I don't think it is scummy to realize a flaw in your own case, in fact I think it shows that I wasn't just trying to attack Jealous, I genuinely thought he was scum.

For claiming to know my meta you have a strange way of repeating history. In the exact game you reference you come after me for having low volume, for not liking the way I voted, and for not having scum reads, all around D1 and N1. Sound familiar? The case that caught HtS came AFTER a reassessment of the game and AFTER being attacked by yourself and others for not having scumreads. You paint me as a mover and shaker that gets shit done but forget that I really wasn't until I gained a mound of town cred for my role in getting HtS lynched. It is eerie how similar this early game dynamic between us is.

#2. "DYH baited a conversation" sounds so devious. As if I was luring Stutters into some big mistake. Which was what exactly? Talking to me? Talking about ptmc? I phrased it the way I did because why the hell not. I don't have a plan or a scheme or a reason outside of wanting to hear what he thought of ptmc and doing so before disagreeing with him about SEQ. Which is exactly what happened. I don't know where you are getting, "Stutters didn't take the bait". He gave me 2 solid thoughts on ptmc. Just because they were brief and my thoughts on SEQ weren't doesn't change that.

#3. Me in respect to the Luna lynch is the only decent point you make here. I didn't think providing a town read on Stutters without a reason made him scum. After all, I had done the exact same thing and everyone focusing on Luna completely ignored it. I was actually thinking he was town, even after the power role crap even though it was anti-town. It was far from a confident read, but that was the way I was leaning. It wasn't until he had shut down for a goodly length of time that I started accepting him as a good lynch target. With him actually flipping scum my hesitancy in pursuing him and voting him doesn't look good, fair enough.

However, here is where your argument is just bad. I did not like the play of Dane and Jealous, I thought their play was scummy. Their suspicions happened to be on Luna. I thought Luna's play was anti-town and it was his lack of activity that pushed him into scummy territory. I wasn't putting forth my guess for the complete scum team, I was putting forth the people who looked scummy enough to me that I would want to lynch them, without drawing on pre-flip association.
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Every way you characterize me as scum is undercut by something else you don't like.

I don't want to analyse Luna but I engage Jealous on the topic. I 'defend' Luna by putting Dane and Jealous in my lynch list, but do nothing to move the lynch. I 'bus' Luna but in no way set myself up to look good on the flip.

I suppose I could be scum even with all of that from your perspective, but I would be the most half-measure, lackluster scum ever, failing to take advantage of anything. I would really hope you would realize I'm better than that.

Lastly, this isn't my scum meta. As scum I lurk, I position myself to look good the vast majority of the time, and I'm addicted to being right.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

September 27 2016 06:37 GMT

#793

Effective immediately, SoulEaterQUEEN has been replaced by Tictock.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

September 27 2016 06:49 GMT

#794

Yo everyone.

Haven't really been following the game very closely so give me until later today to get caught up and whatnot.

ptmc

Finland306 Posts

September 27 2016 07:45 GMT

#795

if you're in a hurry, post 695 should give you almost anything you need for now

ptmc

Finland306 Posts

September 27 2016 08:02 GMT

#796

On September 27 2016 09:22 DoYouHas wrote:
Response to Rels:

#1. I actually had 3 people I thought were likely scum D1. I also gave 4 town reads. I can't really respond to you saying everyone one of my reads is scummy since I don't know what that means.

I currently have no scum reads. I think I was wrong on Jealous and I'm not going to just jump to another person until I reassess the game. This just is what it is. I don't think it is scummy to realize a flaw in your own case, in fact I think it shows that I wasn't just trying to attack Jealous, I genuinely thought he was scum.

But apparently for no other reason than him attacking Lunatic, which after the flip is kind of hard to sell?

For claiming to know my meta you have a strange way of repeating history. In the exact game you reference you come after me for having low volume, for not liking the way I voted, and for not having scum reads, all around D1 and N1. Sound familiar? The case that caught HtS came AFTER a reassessment of the game and AFTER being attacked by yourself and others for not having scumreads. You paint me as a mover and shaker that gets shit done but forget that I really wasn't until I gained a mound of town cred for my role in getting HtS lynched. It is eerie how similar this early game dynamic between us is.

#2. "DYH baited a conversation" sounds so devious. As if I was luring Stutters into some big mistake. Which was what exactly? Talking to me? Talking about ptmc? I phrased it the way I did because why the hell not. I don't have a plan or a scheme or a reason outside of wanting to hear what he thought of ptmc and doing so before disagreeing with him about SEQ. Which is exactly what happened. I don't know where you are getting, "Stutters didn't take the bait". He gave me 2 solid thoughts on ptmc. Just because they were brief and my thoughts on SEQ weren't doesn't change that.

i don't care about either side on these points

#3. Me in respect to the Luna lynch is the only decent point you make here. I didn't think providing a town read on Stutters without a reason made him scum. After all, I had done the exact same thing and everyone focusing on Luna completely ignored it. I was actually thinking he was town, even after the power role crap even though it was anti-town. It was far from a confident read, but that was the way I was leaning. It wasn't until he had shut down for a goodly length of time that I started accepting him as a good lynch target. With him actually flipping scum my hesitancy in pursuing him and voting him doesn't look good, fair enough.

so, you agree that a case against you makes sense

However, here is where your argument is just bad. I did not like the play of Dane and Jealous, I thought their play was scummy. Their suspicions happened to be on Luna.

I don't agree that they "happened to be" on Luna. They called him out for playing weird, and his play just got weirder from it. And why would you focus on only Dane and Jealous, when literally the whole thread except for you, scott and stutters (and superbia) was pressuring Lunatic?

I thought Luna's play was anti-town and it was his lack of activity that pushed him into scummy territory. I wasn't putting forth my guess for the complete scum team, I was putting forth the people who looked scummy enough to me that I would want to lynch them, without drawing on pre-flip association.
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Every way you characterize me as scum is undercut by something else you don't like.

I don't want to analyse Luna but I engage Jealous on the topic. I 'defend' Luna by putting Dane and Jealous in my lynch list, but do nothing to move the lynch. I 'bus' Luna but in no way set myself up to look good on the flip.

I feel like the bus was too quick for mafia to react with a decent bus anyway.

I suppose I could be scum even with all of that from your perspective,

Yes

but I would be the most half-measure, lackluster scum ever, failing to take advantage of anything. I would really hope you would realize I'm better than that.

so far i see very little good from you. Easily leaning towards the half-measure scum.

Lastly, this isn't my scum meta. As scum I lurk, I position myself to look good the vast majority of the time, and I'm addicted to being right.

I don't care about this.

Show us you're towny instead of defending your play from D1!

ptmc

Finland306 Posts

September 27 2016 08:12 GMT

#797

On September 27 2016 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:

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That's a negative Ghost Rider. I meant EoN, not EoD.

After this potential scum slip, which i will ignore, this is his "wow, he does things and they make some sense, this dude is probably town." post:

On September 27 2016 03:37 Stutters695 wrote:

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I'm almost positive Calix isn't scum. After the early responses and just solid logic/play, I can't see it. Easily my strongest town read.

Unless the plan was to bus from the start, it's also very unlikely Rels is scum since he could have just ignored Luna's read on me.

Xata I'm not as confident on but I've got a town feeling about him. Admittedly, I haven't finished my reread (stopped at pg 20) but even what I remember from after that point seemed pretty solid.

Jealous is about the same as Xata for me right now.

Scott DYH DanelerH ptmc likely has a scum among them, which I need to look into more.

Early inclination is Scott/Dan especially.

No. Just no. Everything apart from Calix and Rels doesn't even have reasoning!

ptmc

Finland306 Posts

September 27 2016 08:15 GMT

#798

On September 27 2016 01:33 Xatalos wrote:

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That's a nice list of the events. I think it's pretty accurate. Didn't at least see anything glaringly wrong. Well, not really sure why me being against discussing blue roles is in red there, but *shrug*, I can live with that.

Hm. Not entirely sure why Skynx is on the same level as me based on that list?

I guess it's fair to say that DanelerH looks quite a bit better than before and scott/DYH worse. Hm, I agree that Stutters' reactions to Lunatic are oddly distant, but wouldn't put him on the same level especially considering Lunatic's posts about Stutters.

It just strikes me as odd that you "fell" for Lunatics "he's a blue role, lets stop talking about it" defense.
You think skynx should be more towny or more scummy?
And if we disregard Lunatics post on Stutters, since it is basically pure WIFOM?

ptmc

Finland306 Posts

September 27 2016 08:35 GMT

#799

On September 27 2016 06:35 Calix wrote:

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On September 27 2016 06:29 Skynx wrote:

On September 25 2016 11:56 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:

This is the first post him pushing Lunatic, like only few hours into game.

On September 25 2016 12:30 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

& what is wrong with jerking people's chain approach exactly???

On September 25 2016 12:41 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:

But I'd like a more fleshed-out read if we're both still alive in like 20 fucking minutes, lol.

He very much was part of the collective pressure. Although he was the first to vote, the questioning of Lunatic started with
Calix
Me
Rels
DanelerH
Skynx
Jealous
and then SEQ, in chronological order. Maybe enough for a quick bus? Dunno.

Rels

France13467 Posts

September 27 2016 09:01 GMT

#800

On September 27 2016 06:59 Superbia wrote:
RIP rels

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