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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 18:59 GMT
#481
DanelerH is new to forum mafia as well, yes?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 18:59 GMT
#482
On September 26 2016 03:58 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 03:50 Superbia wrote:
I am so fucking confused as to why no one has called me mafia yet this game and now everyone is reacting like this.

???

Oh well.


Activity levels are low and there are better lynch targets than you, especially if your going to ramp up.

DH's tunnel onto Luna is very contrived with no follow through. Pair that with his questionable early posting and it feels like scum to me. Maybe he brings something to the table before deadline now, but it feels like he tunneled just long enough to get the spotlight on someone else then disappeared.

Luna made an anti-town play and has essentially shut down since coming under the displeasure of the thread, making him a very reasonable lynch and possible scum. I don't think making a meta read is in any way alignment indicative but I appear to be in the minority on that.

Jealous started with fluff, then stirred the pot, and finished by being super non-commital. Townies should be trusting there own judgement over that of people's whose alignments are uncertain. Also potentially scum.


So uh.

Read on DH is pre-flip association or what?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:00 GMT
#483
Also I'm going to call DH Dane because DrHelvetica and stuff.
Minimal effort.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#484
On September 26 2016 01:36 Calix wrote:
This thread makes a snail look like it's moving faster than a sports car. At this rate I might actually be productive or some shit.

Got around to reading Stutters' ISO and I don't understand #236 whatsoever.

Stutters says that he would lynch SEQ for this one line alone and later asks why people haven't picked up on it...but I don't get what he means or why it's enough of a scum tell that no follow-up is needed. Stutters also did not vote in light of this supposed 'scum tell' and while he's been asking for SEQ opinions, he hasn't explained himself on this point.

For context, it's SEQ commenting on Xatalos saying:

'Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^'

Don't get me wrong, that's not a great line because it's commenting on a mechanic that's not in the game (self-votes) in some detail. My interpretation is that Stutters is saying that SEQ hadn't read the setup but I don't see how that's AI, let alone lynch-worthy, and if that's not what Stutters meant then I'm lost. I don't understand nor do I relate to what Stutters has done this game so far tbh.


It's not a great line because SEQ clearly hadn't been following the thread or would have caught that Xata and I were clearly joking. It came as just looking to post for the sake of being active.

Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:03 GMT
#485
On September 26 2016 04:02 Stutters695 wrote:
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On September 26 2016 01:36 Calix wrote:
This thread makes a snail look like it's moving faster than a sports car. At this rate I might actually be productive or some shit.

Got around to reading Stutters' ISO and I don't understand #236 whatsoever.

Stutters says that he would lynch SEQ for this one line alone and later asks why people haven't picked up on it...but I don't get what he means or why it's enough of a scum tell that no follow-up is needed. Stutters also did not vote in light of this supposed 'scum tell' and while he's been asking for SEQ opinions, he hasn't explained himself on this point.

For context, it's SEQ commenting on Xatalos saying:

'Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^'

Don't get me wrong, that's not a great line because it's commenting on a mechanic that's not in the game (self-votes) in some detail. My interpretation is that Stutters is saying that SEQ hadn't read the setup but I don't see how that's AI, let alone lynch-worthy, and if that's not what Stutters meant then I'm lost. I don't understand nor do I relate to what Stutters has done this game so far tbh.


It's not a great line because SEQ clearly hadn't been following the thread or would have caught that Xata and I were clearly joking. It came as just looking to post for the sake of being active.



We played 1 or more games together? What was the game?
Minimal effort.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
September 25 2016 19:04 GMT
#486
On September 26 2016 03:59 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 03:58 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 26 2016 03:50 Superbia wrote:
I am so fucking confused as to why no one has called me mafia yet this game and now everyone is reacting like this.

???

Oh well.


Activity levels are low and there are better lynch targets than you, especially if your going to ramp up.

DH's tunnel onto Luna is very contrived with no follow through. Pair that with his questionable early posting and it feels like scum to me. Maybe he brings something to the table before deadline now, but it feels like he tunneled just long enough to get the spotlight on someone else then disappeared.

Luna made an anti-town play and has essentially shut down since coming under the displeasure of the thread, making him a very reasonable lynch and possible scum. I don't think making a meta read is in any way alignment indicative but I appear to be in the minority on that.

Jealous started with fluff, then stirred the pot, and finished by being super non-commital. Townies should be trusting there own judgement over that of people's whose alignments are uncertain. Also potentially scum.


So uh.

Read on DH is pre-flip association or what?


I don't think Luna and Dane are likely to be scum together, but taking there play individually I think either of them could be scum here. Is that what you meant?
Guts? Determination? $5?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:05 GMT
#487
Anyways this is what i got from isos on DYH

What makes me suspicious is 342 because he was like "hai Sutters I'll talk about your scum-read SEQ if you talk about ptmc" and that's weird because he isn't scum-reading ptmc (so not sure why he asked) and he's not reallg using his initiative - if you have thoughts then why not just post them instead of doing some weird 1-1 trade thing? Ithink this shows some lacking of initiative here. 349 is where his SEQ read is and he's saying 'he doesn't bother me at all' but i don't know wherever that's a town or scum read (this is a theme) and this is the most wordy post he's made the entire game and that's his bigger contribution that he bargained for and its not even that good. If it's a null read then why waste time when you could talk about scum-reads (which he has not done at all lol) and if it's a town read then it's not clear at all. His priorities don't make any sense is what I am saying here.

And I don't think his asking questions thing is a town tell either because he doesn't ever give his own thoughts and the leading questions seem like he's trying to get people to thinkc ertain things, you know what I mean? also he doesn't give his own thoughts like with 344/ 347 and he's like "Lunatic is anti-town" but that's not saying wherever lunatic is town or scum it's just a thing he said about his behaviour.

So yeah this is why I think he's possible scum who is avoiding the spotlight and he is trying not to take sides in the main discussions (don't know his opinions on half the stuff going on you know?) and his questions are leading ones. He's yet to make any kind of scum-read because he was doing that weird trade-off thing over scum-hunting.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:05 GMT
#488
On September 26 2016 04:04 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 03:59 Superbia wrote:
On September 26 2016 03:58 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 26 2016 03:50 Superbia wrote:
I am so fucking confused as to why no one has called me mafia yet this game and now everyone is reacting like this.

???

Oh well.


Activity levels are low and there are better lynch targets than you, especially if your going to ramp up.

DH's tunnel onto Luna is very contrived with no follow through. Pair that with his questionable early posting and it feels like scum to me. Maybe he brings something to the table before deadline now, but it feels like he tunneled just long enough to get the spotlight on someone else then disappeared.

Luna made an anti-town play and has essentially shut down since coming under the displeasure of the thread, making him a very reasonable lynch and possible scum. I don't think making a meta read is in any way alignment indicative but I appear to be in the minority on that.

Jealous started with fluff, then stirred the pot, and finished by being super non-commital. Townies should be trusting there own judgement over that of people's whose alignments are uncertain. Also potentially scum.


So uh.

Read on DH is pre-flip association or what?


I don't think Luna and Dane are likely to be scum together, but taking there play individually I think either of them could be scum here. Is that what you meant?


Why not?

Also I think Dane is town.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:06 GMT
#489
If it's his first time playing forum mafia.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:06 GMT
#490
Which I think it is.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:06 GMT
#491
15m!
Minimal effort.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:07 GMT
#492
On September 26 2016 04:02 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 01:36 Calix wrote:
This thread makes a snail look like it's moving faster than a sports car. At this rate I might actually be productive or some shit.

Got around to reading Stutters' ISO and I don't understand #236 whatsoever.

Stutters says that he would lynch SEQ for this one line alone and later asks why people haven't picked up on it...but I don't get what he means or why it's enough of a scum tell that no follow-up is needed. Stutters also did not vote in light of this supposed 'scum tell' and while he's been asking for SEQ opinions, he hasn't explained himself on this point.

For context, it's SEQ commenting on Xatalos saying:

'Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^'

Don't get me wrong, that's not a great line because it's commenting on a mechanic that's not in the game (self-votes) in some detail. My interpretation is that Stutters is saying that SEQ hadn't read the setup but I don't see how that's AI, let alone lynch-worthy, and if that's not what Stutters meant then I'm lost. I don't understand nor do I relate to what Stutters has done this game so far tbh.


It's not a great line because SEQ clearly hadn't been following the thread or would have caught that Xata and I were clearly joking. It came as just looking to post for the sake of being active.



Okay this makes a bit more sense although I do't think it's that relevant either and I remember that this scum player made that comment about me in the last game so I am not convinced here because I was town in that game (so not something that only scum would do)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:07 GMT
#493
Yeah daneler is pretty new, he has like 2 games max iirc
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 25 2016 19:09 GMT
#494
On September 26 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:
Fuck me actually i dont think I'll have any time at all

I'm an ok lynch if u guys feel like it sry i thought i'd have more time to play but im kinda moving houses and uni begins tomorrow.

If not tho my top sr is DYH. His chain of questions few pages back really don't accomplish anything at all. It really looks like he's farming town points while doinh nothing.

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On September 25 2016 10:16 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 25 2016 10:15 Jealous wrote:
On September 25 2016 00:23 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 23:53 DanelerH wrote:
I am not liking Lunaticman right now. First of all, basically all Lunatic has done is posted a random Town read. Let's take a look at it:

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
Hmm Lunatic intro worst i guess.

Man i dont get why get this PL discussion every game. Its quite simple, odds are town barely have any info D1 to decide on a proper lynch, hence guy with 2 posts dies. Sometimes scum slip, or someone has incredible meta read confidence or w/e, then you dont't pl. Simple stuff.



Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.

Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.

I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.

This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!

This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.


Lunaticman just throws a random Town-read in the middle of a bunch of irrelevant information. Furthermore, xe doesn't give any reasoning for the Town-read. When asked about it, xe responded with this series of posts:

On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 17:32 Calix wrote:
Yo. I have a bit of time in the morning to pop in.

I actually don't mind the activity as much as I usually would because the posting isn't just a bunch of useless spam and it's much easier to catch up/ reread stuff.

On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:
[quote]
Interesting idea. What does this achieve?
Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^

Also hi there.
I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you.
I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night.


Just to pop in with my two cents on this matter. Meta is good for establishing what is NAI for a player. (e.g., how often they vote or if they talk in a particular way) but I agree that a lot of people, myself included at times, use it as a substitute for analysis.

I'm not familiar with many people here (I've only really played with Skynx/ Superbia/ Jealous before) and I'd like to keep it that way so that my analysis isn't skewed by some subjective interpretations of how XYZ played in a game like, 486973 years ago. Only exception is if it's a bad player who has pronounced differences between their town/ scum game that means they make themselves obvious or some shit. So if we could keep the "X is scum/ town due to meta" talk down to a minimum then that'll be lovely.

As far as initial impressions go, I town-lean Jealous (this is mainly because we were posting similar things at approximately the same time when we were questioning Stutters so he's more likely to be coming from the same mindset as myself)

Ambivalent on Daneler. I didn't like his entrance because he was using someone else's words to put forth his opinion and then commented on something that looks odd but his follow-up made sense.

Stutters has done some questionable things with his claims to want to generate discussion. These two posts struck me as strange:

On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
[quote]
This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.


Here he says that he was reaction-testing. NAI by itself but the fact that he capitulated so quickly makes me skeptical. Scum are more likely to shy away from their actions in this manner compared to town (who would be more confident in their ability to defend themselves) because they don't want too much attention.

Stutters:
[quote]
My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play.


Here he notes that people are likely to discuss his posts. Again, totally normal thing to say by itself, but what I don't like is the fact that he notes most of the possibilities before anyone can actually talk about him...since this limits opportunities for discussion...which goes against his stated aim of getting reactions and thus starting conversation.

It's not a legit contradiction or anything but I'd like Stutters to flesh out his reasoning here.

On September 24 2016 16:38 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]


Somehow I knew you would say that. I hope we can stay on friendly terms this time around but I doubt it.

Stutters is so far the most obvious townie.

I am a bit afraid of the logical development of this game. TL is filled with smarties that loves to talk the talk but always lynch the random dude that didnt sound smart.

This will be the doom of us all I tell you, nobody can look more perfect then the mafia because they already know everything!

This looks like the current meta afk townies and leading mafia for sure. This totally reminds me if the palmar/hf domination game check it out.


What makes you think Stutters is the most townie player in the thread?

Are you claiming to be one of the dumb-sounding people?

Fourth part is just weird. It states the obvious ("mafia are informed and will try to look townie") but it does it in a hyperbolic manner. Where are you going here?

If you think mafia are leading the discussion then that implies that you suspect players and this is something you did not put down in favour of a town-read. Who could fall under this category of 'leading mafia' in your eyes, if anyone?


Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain


Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.


On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

Stutters is obvious town for me at least, I can understand why you wouldn't notice but I have played with him 4 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he is town.

Please explain


Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though.


That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read.


On September 24 2016 21:20 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:51 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:49 Lunaticman wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:27 Rels wrote:
On September 24 2016 20:07 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

Well I don't want to day 1 because of reasons to be disclosed at a later date. He is not going to be lynched today at the very least.

I'll remember that. This "I promise I have ghood reasons" comes more often from scum than from town though.


That is just speculation and if you were town you wouldn't force me to say why I have a town read.

Why woudln't I do such a thing ?
So apparently you think I'm scum ?


No I didn't say that you are scum I just find it suspect why I have to tell you why I town read him even though I don't want to yet.



There is no reason not to give your reasoning for a Town-read. I want to know why you think Shutters is Town and I will not accept "I'll tell you later" as an answer.


The game is 4 pages long day one, take a chill pill. I dare to say I have done more than half the players in the game and in my experience you never hit mafia day one. It is much better to build a town circle.

Also Stutters is in all likelyhood a blue role. And if he dies it is on you and Rels.

Am I crazy for thinking this is an anti town post? Making Stutters out to be blue role with no nuance is downright retarded.


It is absolutely anti-town. Do you think it is bad play or scum?


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On September 25 2016 10:53 DoYouHas wrote:
So is it bad enough that you would want to lynch him or do you currently have a stronger scum read on someone else currently?


I mean these supposed to make it look like he's pressuring Jealous for explanations but he sort of responds and nothing from DYH regarding his stance on Luna.

Then he switches to SEQ, stating bunch of thoughts which actually doesn't say anything.

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On September 25 2016 11:02 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 25 2016 10:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote:
I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ.

I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond.

Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also.


SEQ does not bother me much at all. He reads like he jumped in with both feet and started rooting around. The line you bolded would be weak reasoning if he had actually gone after Xata or spread suspicion on him, but I don't think he did. He moves on pretty quickly and after talking about mafia in a pretty general sense (not unusual for someone new to forum mafia, especially with Jealous getting into it too) he seems to be scumhunting. You have picked a pretty early statement from him that does not, to me, hold the significance you are assigning it.


Like there is not a final verdict, he says he doesnt bother him then bunch of thoughts filling the air and thats it.

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On September 25 2016 11:35 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 25 2016 11:29 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 25 2016 11:02 DoYouHas wrote:
On September 25 2016 10:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote:
I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ.

I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond.

Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also.


SEQ does not bother me much at all. He reads like he jumped in with both feet and started rooting around. The line you bolded would be weak reasoning if he had actually gone after Xata or spread suspicion on him, but I don't think he did. He moves on pretty quickly and after talking about mafia in a pretty general sense (not unusual for someone new to forum mafia, especially with Jealous getting into it too) he seems to be scumhunting. You have picked a pretty early statement from him that does not, to me, hold the significance you are assigning it.

All of his statements are from around that time. Not to mention the apologetic/cautious nature. Just kind of screams first time scum to me.

I want to see what you are seeing. I think you are likely town. Can you walk me through it like I'm an idiot? Where is his apologetic/cautious nature evident?


This is kinda more evident of all tho, when he pushes Jealous for avoiding answering questions and he himself disappeara after this kind of questioning.

Yeh my top lynch target i guess, all of this above feels like activity for sake of activity to me.

Thats best i can do from phone guys, sory for being afk so far this game
Hopefully i can pick it up later on.


The only scummy thing here is the first one. I thouyght this was the most townie thing on DYH filter though, the fact that he continued his pressure on Jealous.
The other two things don't make him scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 25 2016 19:09 GMT
#495
On September 26 2016 03:45 Superbia wrote:
Though I don't have any reads yet. I need a patient champion.

STFU and play
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 25 2016 19:10 GMT
#496
On September 26 2016 04:03 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 04:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 26 2016 01:36 Calix wrote:
This thread makes a snail look like it's moving faster than a sports car. At this rate I might actually be productive or some shit.

Got around to reading Stutters' ISO and I don't understand #236 whatsoever.

Stutters says that he would lynch SEQ for this one line alone and later asks why people haven't picked up on it...but I don't get what he means or why it's enough of a scum tell that no follow-up is needed. Stutters also did not vote in light of this supposed 'scum tell' and while he's been asking for SEQ opinions, he hasn't explained himself on this point.

For context, it's SEQ commenting on Xatalos saying:

'Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^'

Don't get me wrong, that's not a great line because it's commenting on a mechanic that's not in the game (self-votes) in some detail. My interpretation is that Stutters is saying that SEQ hadn't read the setup but I don't see how that's AI, let alone lynch-worthy, and if that's not what Stutters meant then I'm lost. I don't understand nor do I relate to what Stutters has done this game so far tbh.


It's not a great line because SEQ clearly hadn't been following the thread or would have caught that Xata and I were clearly joking. It came as just looking to post for the sake of being active.



We played 1 or more games together? What was the game?

If memory serves, you vigged me in a student game when I was scum. I'm sure we've done more, but no clue which games.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:10 GMT
#497
Giacomo I want to call you town but I'm not getting there.

I checked your meta and it's really not helping either.
Minimal effort.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 25 2016 19:11 GMT
#498
On September 26 2016 03:48 Superbia wrote:
Who has some info for me on Xat's meta?

He usually lurks hardcore as scum. One exception: the last scumgame he had where he played with me, when he tryharded like crazy and had everybody townread him because of him.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:11 GMT
#499
On September 26 2016 04:10 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 04:03 Superbia wrote:
On September 26 2016 04:02 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 26 2016 01:36 Calix wrote:
This thread makes a snail look like it's moving faster than a sports car. At this rate I might actually be productive or some shit.

Got around to reading Stutters' ISO and I don't understand #236 whatsoever.

Stutters says that he would lynch SEQ for this one line alone and later asks why people haven't picked up on it...but I don't get what he means or why it's enough of a scum tell that no follow-up is needed. Stutters also did not vote in light of this supposed 'scum tell' and while he's been asking for SEQ opinions, he hasn't explained himself on this point.

For context, it's SEQ commenting on Xatalos saying:

'Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^'

Don't get me wrong, that's not a great line because it's commenting on a mechanic that's not in the game (self-votes) in some detail. My interpretation is that Stutters is saying that SEQ hadn't read the setup but I don't see how that's AI, let alone lynch-worthy, and if that's not what Stutters meant then I'm lost. I don't understand nor do I relate to what Stutters has done this game so far tbh.


It's not a great line because SEQ clearly hadn't been following the thread or would have caught that Xata and I were clearly joking. It came as just looking to post for the sake of being active.



We played 1 or more games together? What was the game?

If memory serves, you vigged me in a student game when I was scum. I'm sure we've done more, but no clue which games.


Ah! Right. I thought you were in that game but I'm not sure what side you were on.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2016 19:11 GMT
#500
On September 26 2016 04:09 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 03:45 Superbia wrote:
Though I don't have any reads yet. I need a patient champion.

STFU and play


Those are two opposing statements!
Minimal effort.
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