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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 07:43 GMT
#1561
So Vivax died instead of the three smart ones - HF, Palmar, Koshi - that's the first point I've noted.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 07:46 GMT
#1562
On September 04 2016 08:48 Trfel wrote:
Okay, so I'm going to get a lot of hate for this. But I think I'll use night kill association to say that Holyflare is likely mafia.

Night 1, why did disformation die instead of Holyflare? Both of them claimed cop. Honestly I thought that neither of them were the cop, but of the two, I would have guessed that Holyflare's claim is more likely to be true. But disformation was shot and not Holyflare. Also note that while disformation is a good player, Holyflare is widely known as being one of the best on the site.

Okay, so maybe it was just a really good read from mafia. Then why not kill Holyflare on Night 2? He's one of the only people still playing the game. And again, he's known as an amazing player and can pull town back from multiple LYLOs, and there's minimal pressure on him. Mafia should never leave him alive over a Vivax that made 3-ish posts all night phase and said he was AFKing on scott31337 or geript.

So yeah. I'm not super caught up yet, I'll read things more carefully tonight, but it looks to me like Holyflare is pretty suspicious.


I get your point of view in a way, but I was about 90% sure Disfor's claim was out of anger dealing with Vivax and was probably legit.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 07:48 GMT
#1563
On September 03 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 04:42 scott31337 wrote:
Since everyone seemed to forget -
I'll be spending some good time in the thread this afternoon - I have an american football game to go to Thursday night, and driving out of town for work on Friday morning for network installs, so I won't be around much after today.

I'm still doing installs, I don't have time to play - but after I get home today things should be normal.

Post your reads please. Don't post the excel sheet, that is forbidden.
Post your reads.


This is what I had but it's soo old I'm not sure how it would be helpful, but
+ Show Spoiler [OLD ASS notepad Spreadsheet] +

Race Bannon -2.5 Scumlean - terrible entrance, although Palmar's point "might" work
TicTock - US 5.5 townlean - okay thoughts of game
Tumblewood 3 US - Nothing impressive
Rels 2 -EU- shit entrance
DanelerH - US 6 - going after Koshi at beginning, Koshi/Dan prob not a team
Vivax -EU 6 - like his thoughts and inquiziveness so far, shit case on me
Holyflare - EU 6 - looking better
Palmar -Iceland/EU 6.5 good thoughts
disformation -EU 6.5 townlean
Geript -US 6.5 good posts
Trfel - US 6 weird thoughts but dont think he'd be so aggressive
Koshi -EU 5.5 - nothing special but wouldn't lynch today
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:01 GMT
#1564
On September 03 2016 03:41 Vivax wrote:
This is slowly getting interesting but also a bit scary, didn't expect so many people to prefer scott over Palmar when nothing new on him was posted, contrary to what it looked like all game long.

If Palmar and TW stop wasting their votes we might actually get some info here on voting patterns before it's too late to make meaningful changes to where the thread is going.


On September 03 2016 05:15 Vivax wrote:
Damn Palmar might even be right on geript.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.

I actually like this post. I don't agree with it, but there's thought behind it.

On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?

I like Trfel picking up on this post.

On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.

Also, salut Rels!


This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing.

I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it.

I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up.


Why is he liking both posts from Trfel and TT even though their relation to my post is completely different? Trfel only asks questions about it, TT calls me scum for it. It's like geript has no own opinion on my post at all, he should at least know if he's agreeing or disagreeing with TT, and normally he should be disagreeing cause he liked my observation.

Why does he keep throwing suspicion at Trfel in these long posts but never seems to care about Trfel?

You will also notice how geript opens with having Trfel as scum (it appears that way) and while he heads down writing his post finding this one thing above as the only reason to possibly think Trfel is town, he more and more keeps putting him as bad town.

But why, actually? He starts his post mentioning stuff that looks mafia about Trfel, why does he have to conclude he's bad town and talk so much about it every time in his initial posts.

And by now Trfel for him is like forgotten, it should be one of the guys he's looking for in the + 1 after me and Daneler.


On September 04 2016 14:11 Trfel wrote:
Read/skimmed the thread. So now I actually know a little bit about what happened.

Holyflare is town, there is no way he is mafia this game. And I will sheep him.

I still think that DanelerH is town. Most likely mafia are scott and Tictock IMO, I am really liking a scott lynch. I really do think that geript is town and Koshi is probably town so that leaves me at scott, Tictock, Palmar.

But I'm not sold entirely on TT and Palmar yet. The reason I doubted scott was the emotional quitting post but he came back like nothing happened amd still dodged thr spreadsheet thing. So I will vote for him.



Okay. Pretty sure Vivax is dead because he was starting to figure the game out.
It's been a crappy weekend so I'm already on a few beers, but this gives me good information.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:30 GMT
#1565
On August 31 2016 07:24 Trfel wrote:
And Holyflare, I'm a bit lost, could you summarize why Palmar is mafia?


Anything ever evolve from this?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:32 GMT
#1566
On August 30 2016 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
Also someone explain to me how geript is leading the votes?

How have you not been paying attention to my posts?

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:39 GMT
#1567
I also went thru filters looking for others names with my instincts and suspicions and I'm at
HF/Trfel/x

HF never speaks of Trfel and throws him a town read at

On August 31 2016 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
Thank you town Trfel.


And then never again.

And the third is probably not Tictock or DandelH.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:46 GMT
#1568
I don't think it's with Koshi or Palmar either. So that pretty much leaves Geript.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:47 GMT
#1569
##Vote: Trfel
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 04 2016 08:48 GMT
#1570
On September 04 2016 16:43 scott31337 wrote:
So Vivax died instead of the three smart ones - HF, Palmar, Koshi - that's the first point I've noted.


Scott besides this what is your take on Koshi this game?
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:53 GMT
#1571
Day 1: Final Vote Count



Votes:
  • Rels (6) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (1) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (0) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript


Day 2: Vote Count #3



Votes:
  • Vivax (1) - scott31337, scott31337, geript
  • Tumblewood (6) - Trfel, Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Holyflare, DanelerH, Tumblewood
  • Palmar (0) - Koshi, Vivax, Holyflare, DanelerH, Trfel
  • scott31337 (0) - Vivax
  • TicTock(1) - Tumblewood
  • Holyflare (1) - Palmar
  • scott31337 (1) - Holyflare, TicTock

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:56 GMT
#1572
+ Show Spoiler [For town eyes only] +

Day 1: Final Vote Count



Votes:
  • Rels (6) - Palmar, Vivax, Race Bannon, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (1) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, Race Bannon, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (0) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • Race Bannon (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript


Day 2: Vote Count #3



Votes:
  • Vivax (1) - Race Bannon, Race Bannon, geript
  • Tumblewood (6) - Trfel, Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Holyflare, DanelerH, Tumblewood
  • Palmar (0) - Koshi, Vivax, Holyflare, DanelerH, Trfel
  • Race Bannon (0) - Vivax
  • TicTock(1) - Tumblewood
  • Holyflare (1) - Palmar
  • Race Bannon (1) - Holyflare, TicTock

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 08:57 GMT
#1573
On September 04 2016 17:48 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 16:43 scott31337 wrote:
So Vivax died instead of the three smart ones - HF, Palmar, Koshi - that's the first point I've noted.


Scott besides this what is your take on Koshi this game?


My gut feeling is that he's town. Like i pointed out before, it would be so much extra work to defend me when he could've just lynched TW (which we know is town now) - it makes very little sense.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 09:01 GMT
#1574
+ Show Spoiler [Mafia that NEVER vote for each other] +

Day 1: Final Vote Count



Votes:
  • Rels (6) - Palmar, Vivax, Race Bannon, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (1) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, Race Bannon, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (0) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • Race Bannon (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • Tictock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript


Day 2: Vote Count #3



Votes:
  • Vivax (1) - Race Bannon, Race Bannon, geript
  • Tumblewood (6) - Trfel, Koshi, Vivax, Trfel, Holyflare, DanelerH, Tumblewood
  • Palmar (0) - Koshi, Vivax, Holyflare, DanelerH, Trfel
  • Race Bannon (0) - Vivax
  • Tictock(1) - Tumblewood
  • Holyflare (1) - Palmar
  • Race Bannon (1) - Holyflare, Tictock

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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 04 2016 09:03 GMT
#1575
I'm gunna just go with this for a moment, kus I wont be really looking into things till later.

##Unvote

I kinda like this push from Scott.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 09:06 GMT
#1576
Yeah the above is just a magic fucking coincidence right?
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 04 2016 09:09 GMT
#1577
On September 04 2016 17:01 scott31337 wrote:
Okay. Pretty sure Vivax is dead because he was starting to figure the game out.
It's been a crappy weekend so I'm already on a few beers, but this gives me good information.


While NK wifom is always meh, but this was kinda my tinfoil theory as well. It's a little weak but these were some solid posts from Vivax.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 04 2016 09:13 GMT
#1578
Well apparently I haven't opened Trfel's filter before.

Seeing how it's LyLo I believe it's time I do that.
I can take that responsibility.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 09:25 GMT
#1579
On September 03 2016 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
We never got much follow-through from Scott's spreadsheet stuff earlier, and giving up in this position is totally the opposite of the attitude Scott had D1 + Show Spoiler +. However it does fit a scum!scott agenda to lay low in a good position and try to bring down town's mood.


Show nested quote +
Personally I'd really like to lynch HF because I know by posting this I am in for a storm.

Scott is probably the safer bet though.

##Vote: Holyflare


Ahahahahahahahahahahaah

Please someone tell him. This guy is 100% just picking posts and writing a narrative and not reading the thread.


Why would you delete who posted this quote out of your message then?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 04 2016 09:30 GMT
#1580
On September 02 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote:
Ok I got lazy and didn't make giant posts for everybody, just the stuff I felt like noting.

I think this is where I am at.

Town:
Trfel - + Show Spoiler +
Pretty obv town imo.

DanelerH - + Show Spoiler +
Really feels like newbie town

Vivax - + Show Spoiler +
total 180 from what I've seen as scum, hasn't dropped a beat even with game looking glim


Probably Town:
Palmar - + Show Spoiler +
Honestly just feels, nothing besides some erratic voting has raised an eyebrow.

Probably should be a priority filter to review


Null:

Geript - + Show Spoiler +
Dunno could go either way, need to relook at stuff.

Koshi - + Show Spoiler +
Doesn't feel like Koshi today. Too complacent I think.



Scum:
Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler +
I've actually moved Tumble between Scum and Null a couple times now. On the one hand I see a few thoughts I like, but I have problems with Tumble's conclusions.

Especially it bugs me again with Tumble's scott read, even in his last list post he's contradicting himself about Scott. + Show Spoiler +

not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them


Calls scott the worst of the "not bad lynches" then puts him kinda null with dane. I feel like Scott is one of his least talked about reads still as well.

Holyflare - + Show Spoiler +
Whole approach to the game since EoD scream scum to me. Riding a high from getting a blue lynched D1 (I know the feeling, my first mafia game) going right into N1 accusing the town who helped lynch him.

Nothing in his posts since then show real thought or analysis, he's just picked an argument and ran with the easiest path. There was no follow through in analysis or checking other theories.

Not a fan of his uber-defensive post responding to my stuff earlier either.

scott31337 - + Show Spoiler +
Never really put much into the game, and seems to have just given up.

We never got much follow-through from Scott's spreadsheet stuff earlier, and giving up in this position is totally the opposite of the attitude Scott had D1 + Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2016 12:00 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote:
Scott, whats got you so active this game?

I mean I like it, it's just not what I'm used to.


I read the posts I and others made about D1 earlier in the thread. - I never liked d1, but geript's and the one I linked made a lot of sense. You should read them if you have not already

TLDR of them - get everyone to not be a null

. However it does fit a scum!scott agenda to lay low in a good position and try to bring down town's mood.


Can someone give me a brief rundown of exactly why Palmar is mafia and the current wagon? I never really got exactly why people are voting him.

Personally I'd really like to lynch HF because I know by posting this I am in for a storm.

Scott is probably the safer bet though.

##Vote: Holyflare


Tictock Why did you waste your time on spoilers for these when they do not tell me anything?
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