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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
My internet went out before EoD, not that it would have mattered. I'm kinda assuming scum are playing a semi-decent game and town has by and large just been shit this game. So scum team is probably something like Trfel/Geript/Koshi, with a side order of HF and maybe some after dinner Palmar mints. Regardless, I think we should gtfo before our bill arrives. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
Town: Holyflare Vivax Geript Koshi Mafia: Tictock Scott Palmar Trfel is someone I'm up in the air about. I'm going to do a read on xem tomorrow (because it's getting late for me). | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
 . Shoudnt have signed up for the game.Saw Tumblewood flipped town . I'll catch up on the rest early Day 3. | ||
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Vivax
22153 Posts
On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote: Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof. Yes pls. lurking. Nice selfie HF legit 19th century beard you just don't look as drunk as I expected. You are acknowledged. I still don't think TT is mafia just for voting with you. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
Town: Holyflare Vivax Geript Koshi Trfel Mafia: Tictock Scott Palmar Out of the ones listed under Mafia, I think we should lynch either Scott or Palmar. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On September 03 2016 23:22 Palmar wrote: Why am I mafia Daneler? I made a post on it earlier: + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2016 07:48 DanelerH wrote: If anyone can back up the bold portion, please do so. I don't know how accurate this is. Regardless, the italicized portion made me check Palmar's filter again and I found out that Koshi is correct about this. Palmar went from: Rels: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote: Ah fantastic. No, it's absolutely not a meta thing. You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things. But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves. He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia. Palmar didn't give xyr theory on Rels until asked for it. Prior to this, xe only said "Rels is Mafia." On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote: ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this? Geript: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote: Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2016 19:54 Palmar wrote: Voting Tumblewood Partly because I admire the fact Koshi wrote a case that looks good and I want to support a good effort. Mostly though because he put me in "null/I don't care" category. Palmar wasn't the only one suspicious of Tumblewood. Holyflare was suspicous of Tumblewood a long time before this. Despite each of them making a case on the same person, Palmar made the following post: On August 31 2016 01:47 Palmar wrote: HF has done literally nothing worth noticing. Geript (again): + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:44 Palmar wrote: I am only going to be on phone tonight but for what it's worth I didn't think tw sounded like mafia when we talked today. It's not a strong read nor am I going to hard defend him (don't wanna look like an idiot if he flips mafia) but yeah I think geript is a better lunch. There is a vey concise and simple point against him Rels (again): + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:59 Palmar wrote: I awitched rather kill Rels than scott This was only 15 minutes later and allegedly wasn't because Blue claim from Rels. On August 31 2016 07:19 Palmar wrote: yeah I don't have to argue this right now so I'm not going to. I did not switch after he claimed blue, or if I did it was only because phone posting is slower. I switched, as stated, because of the two options left on the table I wanted to kill Rels over scott. If Palmar is Mafia, I think it's safe to say that Geript and Tumblewood probably aren't. While I still haven't heard anything new about the bold portion, the italicized portion is still correct. In the part where I'm looking into the italicized portion, I also noted several things, which are also still correct and I believe they hold water. Tumblewood and Geript being Town also falls in line with my hypothesis at the end. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On September 03 2016 23:35 DanelerH wrote: I made a post on it earlier: + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2016 07:48 DanelerH wrote: If anyone can back up the bold portion, please do so. I don't know how accurate this is. Regardless, the italicized portion made me check Palmar's filter again and I found out that Koshi is correct about this. Palmar went from: Rels: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote: Ah fantastic. No, it's absolutely not a meta thing. You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things. But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves. He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia. Palmar didn't give xyr theory on Rels until asked for it. Prior to this, xe only said "Rels is Mafia." On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote: ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this? Geript: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 19:00 Palmar wrote: Like to elaborate further on the geript thing. It's of special notice that when he is posting, Rels is clearly running away with the vote, and as such, geript should be paying attention to that part of the game, yet all he says about my case is "i am not impressed" without giving any further reasoning about it. In his conclusion he states "Rels is useless as usual" or something like that, which is like the weakest possible stance you can take on the person currently up for lynch. Like I would've been fine if geript's criticism was actually explained, or thought out at all. His long posts really stick out as "I'm gonna quote a bunch of shit and add random commentary so it looks like I'm doing things". Essentially, despite the long form of his posts, what he has done is basically written a glorified list post that looks something like this: Not that lists aren't fine, they're often a good way to gauge where someone stands on a game, but meeeehhh~~~ Also, he completely disregarded my point on RB which I still think is an excellent point. So yeah. geript's entrance is shit. Tumblewood: + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2016 19:54 Palmar wrote: Voting Tumblewood Partly because I admire the fact Koshi wrote a case that looks good and I want to support a good effort. Mostly though because he put me in "null/I don't care" category. Palmar wasn't the only one suspicious of Tumblewood. Holyflare was suspicous of Tumblewood a long time before this. Despite each of them making a case on the same person, Palmar made the following post: On August 31 2016 01:47 Palmar wrote: HF has done literally nothing worth noticing. Geript (again): + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:44 Palmar wrote: I am only going to be on phone tonight but for what it's worth I didn't think tw sounded like mafia when we talked today. It's not a strong read nor am I going to hard defend him (don't wanna look like an idiot if he flips mafia) but yeah I think geript is a better lunch. There is a vey concise and simple point against him Rels (again): + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:59 Palmar wrote: I awitched rather kill Rels than scott This was only 15 minutes later and allegedly wasn't because Blue claim from Rels. On August 31 2016 07:19 Palmar wrote: yeah I don't have to argue this right now so I'm not going to. I did not switch after he claimed blue, or if I did it was only because phone posting is slower. I switched, as stated, because of the two options left on the table I wanted to kill Rels over scott. If Palmar is Mafia, I think it's safe to say that Geript and Tumblewood probably aren't. While I still haven't heard anything new about the bold portion, the italicized portion is still correct. In the part where I'm looking into the italicized portion, I also noted several things, which are also still correct and I believe they hold water. Tumblewood and Geript being Town also falls in line with my hypothesis at the end. The bold portition is sometimes right, but usually when I'm proven right. For some reason this town insists on lynching people I'm not trying to lynch so there's that. The italicized portion is untrue, I 100% am the #1 proponent of lynching hf, and while vivax and koshi have made excellent points on geript, that's also my lynch. But whatever. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
like the dude literally calls me out day 2 as his basically only few posts of the day saying i'm mafia because i didn't follow up on my scott read and that I haven't posted much analysis or some crappy stuff, i'll break it down for you: 1. He returns and says I'm mafia for not calling out Scott or following up reads. 2. I point out that I've followed up reads and pushed Scott and actually posted the most damning thing about him and his spreadsheet. 3. He returns and says I'm mafia with Scott even though I did this and there is evidence that I actually analysed and looked over what I talked about. 4. I point out that's dumb and he's dumb but that we should vote Scott. 5. Nobody joins Scott wagon with me APART FROM HIM?????? i've not really read through anything after i've left but i can honestly not believe he's not the lynch or that nobody that was on "the wagon of purity" even voted scott either???? I sort of remember koshi defending him for... some reason... but that's all I remember Also, reading back through and ctrl+f ticktock's filter for the word scott and see that he's just flip flopping all game until yesterday where he afk votes scott and makes a list of scum reads that all have crazy scott associations, he didn't even jump onto his tumble scum read and just afk'd at lynch (internet dcd maybe??) furthermore ticktock's posts, you should read his filter and compare it to what i've done and then think to yourself if he's a towny actually analysing the situations or a mafia putting out a narrative to every connotation that happens in the game, his stance in my bullet points above should be convincing enough vivax why didn't you vote scott, you've had a boner for this wagon of purity crap the entire game since day 1, wtf? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
If I die my reads are similar to my big read post. HF is maybe slightly less likely to be mafia, Trfel slightly more and DanielerH slightly more. Geript is still lock mafia. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I generally completely miss one mafia in a normal mini sized game. It's not a rule, but I do tend to overvalue early townreads. | ||
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DanelerH
96 Posts
On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Vote Count #7] Votes:
Not voting: - Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host. Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On August 31 2016 05:58 Tictock wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels On August 31 2016 05:58 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote Rels On August 31 2016 05:59 Rels wrote: ##Vote scott On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Final Vote Count Votes:
Not voting: - Rels is the lynch. Flip post is imminent. In the semi-final count, Scott was about to be lynched. The ones who turned the vote around to Rels were Palmar and Tictock. Each of them gave an explanation for their vote switches. Palmar: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:59 Palmar wrote: I awitched rather kill Rels than scott On August 31 2016 06:00 Palmar wrote: This has like 1% chance of working but we're sticking with it because he claimed On August 31 2016 07:19 Palmar wrote: yeah I don't have to argue this right now so I'm not going to. I did not switch after he claimed blue, or if I did it was only because phone posting is slower. I switched, as stated, because of the two options left on the table I wanted to kill Rels over scott. Tictock: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote: Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion. I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble. On August 31 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote: Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified. On August 31 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote: Arg I actually still don't like the shennanie... On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote: I hate myself for caving to pressure. Sorry Rels. The things that coincide with these posts is that they needed to prevent Scott's lynch. Tictock, after over emphasising shennanigans, used the Blue claim as cover for the vote, then claimed giving into pressure. In Palmar's case, xyr last post states that xe doens't have to argue the vote switch, but then does so anyways. Not only is the timing suspicious, but the explanations are, too (as well as being completely unnecessary). | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 04 2016 04:32 DanelerH wrote: My suspicion of all three of them has increased. It's centered around the Day 1 lynch. Here is a list of the quotes from the semi-final vote count to the final vote count: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Vote Count #7] Votes:
Not voting: - Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host. Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On August 31 2016 05:58 Tictock wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels On August 31 2016 05:58 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote Rels On August 31 2016 05:59 Rels wrote: ##Vote scott On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Final Vote Count Votes:
Not voting: - Rels is the lynch. Flip post is imminent. In the semi-final count, Scott was about to be lynched. The ones who turned the vote around to Rels were Palmar and Tictock. Each of them gave an explanation for their vote switches. Palmar: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:59 Palmar wrote: I awitched rather kill Rels than scott On August 31 2016 06:00 Palmar wrote: This has like 1% chance of working but we're sticking with it because he claimed On August 31 2016 07:19 Palmar wrote: yeah I don't have to argue this right now so I'm not going to. I did not switch after he claimed blue, or if I did it was only because phone posting is slower. I switched, as stated, because of the two options left on the table I wanted to kill Rels over scott. Tictock: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote: Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion. I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble. On August 31 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote: Good, now I feel like my vote on you at the start of the game was justified. On August 31 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote: Arg I actually still don't like the shennanie... On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote: I hate myself for caving to pressure. Sorry Rels. The things that coincide with these posts is that they needed to prevent Scott's lynch. Tictock, after over emphasising shennanigans, used the Blue claim as cover for the vote, then claimed giving into pressure. In Palmar's case, xyr last post states that xe doens't have to argue the vote switch, but then does so anyways. Not only is the timing suspicious, but the explanations are, too (as well as being completely unnecessary). First off, huh? How was I over emphasizing shenannies if I was saying I was against them? What makes you think my vote had anything to do with the blue claim? And once again we have someone scum reading myself and Palmar for voting to "save scott" D1, when we don't even know for sure if Scott is mafia. I'm revoking my townread of you. @HF Dude I'm basically ignoring you kus you stopped posting in any reasonable way. Your oversimplifying my read on you, maybe you could actually use quotes to talk about what I've said that you have issues with. Nothing you've said about me in anyway means I'm mafia btw. Imo the only thing I've done this game that is possibly mafia indicative is if Scott is mafia, then my D1 vote looks like shit. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
And once again we have someone scum reading myself and Palmar for voting to "save scott" D1, when we don't even know for sure if Scott is mafia. Honestly given how many people Scum read Scott, and have made associative reads with Scott their Prime reason for scumreading other people, YET his lynch still gained no traction baffles me. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I think I've been played by someone like vivax or geript, someone should check up on them imo, please get vivax to elaborate on why he keeps suggesting the wagon of purity but not really ramming scott as mafia down our throats. I'm extremely likely to die if any of the vets are mafia (koshi/palmar/vivax/geript) | ||
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