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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2016 20:20 GMT
#1461
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


Even after I have shown you how he claimed scum in a game where he was town and proceeded in an entirely different manner in his followup posts?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:22 GMT
#1462
not sure why these pairs, but it feels right. I think that we have an up-for-lynch scum, a side scum, and a sleeper scum. it feels right. so one of tt/palmar, scott/geript, and dane/koshi is scum. post game cred or something? but that's usually how it plays out unless town is newbs or one side is absolutely getting stomped or both
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:23 GMT
#1463
On September 03 2016 05:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


Even after I have shown you how he claimed scum in a game where he was town and proceeded in an entirely different manner in his followup posts?

oh yeah. I was evaluating my reads based on a game that I didn't even play in
good times for all
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 02 2016 20:26 GMT
#1464
Humm, you came back to the game posting up a storm basically right when you became the leading wagon again Tumble...
I can take that responsibility.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:27 GMT
#1465
On September 03 2016 05:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:20 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


Even after I have shown you how he claimed scum in a game where he was town and proceeded in an entirely different manner in his followup posts?

oh yeah. I was evaluating my reads based on a game that I didn't even play in

you can go lynch him if you want. but I have an even better indicator of alignment, called reading his filter past the first five posts, that leads me to believe he is town.
good times for all
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 02 2016 20:28 GMT
#1466
Maybe this game is as easy as Tumble, Scott, +1 (if all scum are in poor position, geript?)
I can take that responsibility.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:29 GMT
#1467
On September 03 2016 05:26 Tictock wrote:
Humm, you came back to the game posting up a storm basically right when you became the leading wagon again Tumble...

I came right back into the game posting up a storm when I had time to post...
and I am also not the leading wagon. though I will concede that I screwed up predicting my schedule, a little. I'll be here till 15 before deadline.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:29 GMT
#1468
but awfully suspicious huh
good times for all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2016 20:29 GMT
#1469
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


And this post is so bad it's like midgame you decided that all you thought earlier was just plain wrong cause early? This doesn't happen,period. Just an excuse for your Trfel read getting buried cause it was inconvenient for you.

You should have had a read on Trfel back then, what happened to it?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:30 GMT
#1470
On September 03 2016 05:28 Tictock wrote:
Maybe this game is as easy as Tumble, Scott, +1 (if all scum are in poor position, geript?)

nope I am never ever moving my vote. as soon as you're saying "maybe it's as easy as" you're done
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:31 GMT
#1471
On September 03 2016 05:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 03 2016 05:18 Vivax wrote:
Tumble, this post:

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.


On August 30 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
town
vivax
daneler

also probably town
hf

scummy
tt
scott?

null/don't care yet
most people


Then this post.

What happened to Trfel in between that you forgot about him after making a point that, looking back, was probably excellent?

"excellent"
I have learned my lesson on trying to read people based on their first ten posts.


And this post is so bad it's like midgame you decided that all you thought earlier was just plain wrong cause early? This doesn't happen,period. Just an excuse for your Trfel read getting buried cause it was inconvenient for you.

You should have had a read on Trfel back then, what happened to it?

I didn't care about it anymore. do you remember Onegu 2 where I tossed around reads like no one's business in the first 5 pages and then ignored them later d1?
good times for all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2016 20:34 GMT
#1472
Since geript is clearly around:

On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:
A couple of Vivax's posts don't mesh with how I'm seeing the game at all.

Ehh I think I need context.

On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.


Here he is basically saying that Tumble reacting to Palmar's thing with Rels is an "attention shift" like there is possible association between Rels and Tumble. While Vivax's own opinion of Rels is basically "Palmar is a cool guy, and makes a good point about Rels"

I kinda see Vivax doing exactly what he is accusing Tumble of doing here, shifting some attention from people discussing Rels onto Tumble.

I guess there's a logic to this, but it really doesn't add up.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 10:20 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 10:10 DanelerH wrote:
I don't know if this is how xe normally plays, but I am currently suspicious of Koshi. Out of 27 posts so far, 16 of them were irrelevant and uncontributive. Out of the 11 that are a bit more contributive, two of them are cause for immediate suspicion:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?


On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast.

Almost 100% lock town tbh.



Five of them are voting for Tumblewood without adding anything:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

This guy is mafia.


On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Tumblewood/Rels

prime suspects.


On August 29 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Wait, Koshi, I thought that you were joking about Tumblewood being mafia?

Assuming that you are actually suspicious of him, why?

I don't like the read. Seems forced. Face value read.


On August 29 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
Maybe that isn't the best explanation but you just gotta believe.


On August 29 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:
Ohh I know it:

He makes a really forced read on Tfrel and then adds "oh and Vivax is town" to get away with the forced read and get some extra cred.



After xyr first vote, xe almost immediately switches to someone else, then back to the first vote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Going to vote Tumblewood. If he is mafia I am confirmed greatest player alive.

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


On August 29 2016 07:59 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote disformation


Goddamn. I had spidersenses going off on one of those posts as well but ignored them. But I like that read even more than mine.


On August 29 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##Tumblewood


I am going to stick with my own read. Maybe I like it a bit more after all. Even though that were some superpoor reads from disfo.



##vote Koshi


Tell me more why those two posts cause for immediate suspicion.
+ Show Spoiler +
I had a rough thought that the two could be mafia as well, so I wasn't so off on that second post from Koshi

I really don't get why scott chooses this to take the banner up on. It's like random and crappy.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read

Wait, WTF???? This:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:33 scott31337 wrote:
Do you have anything else to add? What do you think of Race Bannon's posts?


I'm not seeing any direct inconistancies in Race Bannon's posts, but the below post is interesting in that it's the only one that actually says anything.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.



It's strange that he finds Tumblewood and Koshi the most suspicious, despite their only affiliation up to that point being the following:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?


On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Tumblewood/Rels

prime suspects.



Race Bannon could be someone to keep an eye on, but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.

This dude is probably just not good at mafia.

Overall:

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.



On August 31 2016 05:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Hey yeh so the bad thing that is almost definitely ego thing is that palmar sheeps koshi's tw case and then ignores that I've posted one and hasn't town read me.

That's pretty scummy.

I've been thinking about Palmar a lot while doing other things. I'm really tempted to case him but then when I organize my thoughts it comes down to little stuff that I don't like. I just don't feel in any way confident about reading him. Like the best reasons to call him scum is basically how differently he reads me in comparison to you and Koshi and his not wanting to lynch Trfel to potentially confirm himself as town. The first is ok, the second is like a Palmar wifom game. TBH, I'm most interested in lynching Dane right now. I don't hate the TW stuff, but it doesn't make me very hard.


You didn't cast a single vote on TW after having him as scum in your earlier posts. Later on he even stopped making you hard. But you sure look like you were dodging his wagon purely based on your votes.

Do you have an explanation for this?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:35 GMT
#1473
remember guise 2-scum teams are always okay. tt and geript.
good times for all
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 02 2016 20:35 GMT
#1474
On September 03 2016 05:29 Tumblewood wrote:
but awfully suspicious huh


timing is convenient yea.
On September 03 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:28 Tictock wrote:
Maybe this game is as easy as Tumble, Scott, +1 (if all scum are in poor position, geript?)

nope I am never ever moving my vote. as soon as you're saying "maybe it's as easy as" you're done


But besides me you'd consider Palmar mafia?

Who are your top 4 town?
I can take that responsibility.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:36 GMT
#1475
btw good point vivax. mostly just bringing up how bad geript's reads were earlier
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:37 GMT
#1476
On September 03 2016 05:35 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:29 Tumblewood wrote:
but awfully suspicious huh


timing is convenient yea.
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:
On September 03 2016 05:28 Tictock wrote:
Maybe this game is as easy as Tumble, Scott, +1 (if all scum are in poor position, geript?)

nope I am never ever moving my vote. as soon as you're saying "maybe it's as easy as" you're done


But besides me you'd consider Palmar mafia?

Who are your top 4 town?

not gonna include myself because that's stupid
vivax, Hf, Koshi, trfel.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 20:42 GMT
#1477
ok so we're 20 minutes out from deadline and no one but tt and vivax is here. this will always end well. in 3 minutes I'm out
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 02 2016 20:43 GMT
#1478
Inhere
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 02 2016 20:43 GMT
#1479
Jmyfsiends hate me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 02 2016 20:44 GMT
#1480
Y nobody hate titvkiyok
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