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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 09:15 GMT
#1321
Don't remember tt posting for almost 3 days
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 09:19 GMT
#1322
Also beginning to hate tw because omgus even though it's not even a scum read on me??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 10:28 GMT
#1323
Fook sake i can't play afk mafia without back and forth chatting
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 11:08 GMT
#1324
wikipedia says there are 1826 billionaires in the world. And I just have shaken ones hand and had dinner with him.

Granted. I am just a simple accountant in a "small" firm in his worldwide imperium but hey, kinda fun.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 12:17 GMT
#1325
So. Fun game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
September 02 2016 12:17 GMT
#1326
Geript scumreading me is almost too bad to be scum, for Koshi it's the usual tinfoil he has on me, he just can't accept me being town ever.

Fairly standard stuff. I stand by my case (Palmar, TW, scott).

If this shitty martir-y Palmar flips town I don't know if I can save this game the next day.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 12:18 GMT
#1327
On September 02 2016 18:19 Holyflare wrote:
Also beginning to hate tw because omgus even though it's not even a scum read on me??


Ahhh this bugs me so much????? Not only was I the ONLY one to try and save him at deadline day 1 AFTER making a case on him which ordinarily I'd just make everyone follow but I've given him like 1 1/2 cycles to play and give him leeway but I'm a random side mafia lean with a whole post dedicated to trashing a GOOD read on his scum read.

Mafia really are only dropping weak as shit mafia reads on me. He's next lynch if I die plz.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
September 02 2016 12:20 GMT
#1328
On September 02 2016 20:08 Koshi wrote:
wikipedia says there are 1826 billionaires in the world. And I just have shaken ones hand and had dinner with him.

Granted. I am just a simple accountant in a "small" firm in his worldwide imperium but hey, kinda fun.


You will never wash your hand again
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
September 02 2016 12:29 GMT
#1329
On September 02 2016 13:59 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Not voting (4) - geript, TicTock, Tumblewood, Palmar

Kinda says a lot about the state of the game/mafia team.

Like unless I'm the only town not voting, I actually expect that most of us are town. TT/TW is a quite possible team. I don't have any good reason for thinking Palmar's town, but I just can't vote for him. He's doing stuff that's way outside of what I usually see even from him. He's not one to give up after trying as scum; but he will say "fuck this game" as town.

I really don't know what direction I want to go this game, but I know what direction I don't want to go.

I'm assuming that Palmar (or me) will probably be lynched today (me for this post itself), but I really don't care. If Palmar flips scum then fuck it I'll just sheep vote and admit to playing terrible. I'm not seeing it. Game feels to dead to have the scum team entirely inactive (or mostly so) now or at any time.

I'm voting feels this game. I think it's Vivax/Dane +1. The third is IDK, almost anyone but I'm guessing one of TT/TW. Part of it is the Vivax/Disinfo bs that happened last night. Part of it is that Vivax is far less active than it feels like he is. Part of it is the Artanis read that he's missed making cases on a variety of people and not because they've already died. Part of it is that his cases he doesn't even terribly hold onto; it's like he could give no fucks about pushing and forwarding his own shit in a game with 3 people who (Palmar, HF, Koshi) who he generally in some way seeks the approval of. Dane because he's the most unnewbie newbie I've ever seen. He's forceful without being confident. He gives polarized reads that go nowhere and lacks uncertainty about anything.

I don't feel like I can make a compelling argument for you guys to join me. But everyone else who's town knows that this game feels wrong somehow. Despite there being cases, points aren't really being discussed. It's almost like "Who's Line" where everything's made up and the points don't matter. But this is a Star Wars game. Search your feelings. I don't think we're on the right track; you don't think we're on the right track.


Goddamn this post sure I feel misrepresented as fuck. How do my reads not go anywhere did you even read how the Palmar wagon started today? I was asking people to get on Palmar (cause guess what, scott remains in the limbo for 90 % of the game like D1).

What about the disfo stuff? How am I not the most active player with HF? How am I not giving fucks about pushing and forwarding when it's what I've been doing all of D2?

What is this shit you're writing up here geript?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 02 2016 12:54 GMT
#1330
So I've done this game a disservice by spending all my time fighting Demons instead.

I'm gunna devote some time to catching up and responding to stuff, then I'll be back closer to deadline.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 02 2016 13:04 GMT
#1331
Responding to HF's posts regarding me up until about pg 50.

On August 31 2016 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
I'd like you to explain yourself TT because your vote looks like the worst in combination with what you've said.


Ehh if you assume I was somehow omni-present it looks like I swapped right after Rels claimed.

What actually happened was I saw everyone switching and went to check vote-thread to see where votes where at. Saw enough had switched that Tumble was never getting lynched figuered wth and jumped on Rels.

I don't get why making that switch actually makes me mafia when I could have sat back and yelled at all the town people for lynching Rels.




On August 31 2016 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'll have a reread of his filter again, I know for sure he said things that bugged me and were off from my thinking which is automatically off putting but the vca is by no means conclusive since we barely know anything

don't like that he's attacking me directly for being the only one putting any remote effort into this game instead of just talking away a simple point though?


I'm reacting to the fact that following a D1 blue lynch you went right into accusation mode. You were the most vocal person to get people to switch to Rels, and then are the first to accuse the people who lynched Rels...

I'd be more impressed if you were actually doing something with the VCA you never actually did. Really all that's happened by the time you've posted this is; pointed out I jumped onto the Shennanie despite saying I really didn't want to; have given an updated reads with vote post + Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2016 07:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Final Vote Count



Votes:
  • Rels (6) - Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood, Tictock, Palmar
  • Tumblewood (1) - scott31337
  • geript (0) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript

Not voting: -



This is my more realistic read thing and yes two players form a hydra mafia.

(which if you noticed has Scott as Scum, despite this being HF's last post about Scott+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2016 06:56 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't agree about scott lol, dunno what else to tell you? He seems carefree and yes little content but that doesn't necessitate someone is mafia all the time.

I also skipped 3/4 of your case, can you tl;dr it?

); complained that nobody was around; and when you go back to read my filter have nothing but "things that bug you" to note.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 02 2016 13:04 GMT
#1332
For reference, someone who actually put more than a few minuets looking at something.

On August 31 2016 17:00 Trfel wrote:
Tictock

Tictock's end of day looks really bad. He makes a lot of posts talking about how much he wants to lynch Tumblewood and how scummy he thinks Tumblewood is:
+ Show Spoiler [Examples] +
On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript.


What about his responses make you think he's town?

Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.
On August 31 2016 05:36 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty happy to be lynching Tumble honestly.

Nothing he's posted in the past few hours says anything, and he's mostly just whining about how he's not really playing his scum meta.

I get the scumreads on Dane but I feel like he's much more a roll of the die than Tumble who is like 95% likely to flip mafia here imo. Like I get why some of his posts are triggering alarms but I feel like he is putting in effort.

Scott is still a tough one for me this game. Palmar flip-flopping from geript to Tumble and then back to Geript is worth raising an eyebrow or two at, but is not something I care to dig into right now.
On August 31 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed


Nothing has changed, expect more and more people realizing you rolled mafia this game.
On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

But he switches to Rels anyway.
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
I hate myself for caving to pressure.

Sorry Rels.
And he blames it on caving into pressure. Given how much he talked about wanting to lynch Tumblewood and not shenanigan, even after Rels posted all of his most scummy stuff at EoD, this is the most plausible explanation if Tictock is indeed town. But it still doesn't seem very solid at all.

Other than this End of Day stuff I kind of like Tictock's play? So I'm not sure what to make of this yet.



I know that unflipped associations are really stupid, but if scott31337 is mafia, Tictock's play looks far more suspicious. Here's the vote count before Tictock's vote switch:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Vote Count #7



Votes:
  • Rels (4) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (2) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (1) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript

Not voting: -
Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched.
Tictock's vote was really important in sealing the lynch as Rels, instead of scott31337. He could maybe have predicted Palmar switching votes to Rels, but relying on other people to switch would be a huge risk. So if scott31337 flips mafia, Tictock looks a lot worse. Even if scott31337 flips town, his End of Day makes me a bit suspicious about him.

I can take that responsibility.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 13:20 GMT
#1333
On September 02 2016 22:04 Tictock wrote:
For reference, someone who actually put more than a few minuets looking at something.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 17:00 Trfel wrote:
Tictock

Tictock's end of day looks really bad. He makes a lot of posts talking about how much he wants to lynch Tumblewood and how scummy he thinks Tumblewood is:
+ Show Spoiler [Examples] +
On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript.


What about his responses make you think he's town?

Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him.
On August 31 2016 05:36 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty happy to be lynching Tumble honestly.

Nothing he's posted in the past few hours says anything, and he's mostly just whining about how he's not really playing his scum meta.

I get the scumreads on Dane but I feel like he's much more a roll of the die than Tumble who is like 95% likely to flip mafia here imo. Like I get why some of his posts are triggering alarms but I feel like he is putting in effort.

Scott is still a tough one for me this game. Palmar flip-flopping from geript to Tumble and then back to Geript is worth raising an eyebrow or two at, but is not something I care to dig into right now.
On August 31 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed


Nothing has changed, expect more and more people realizing you rolled mafia this game.
On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.

I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.

But he switches to Rels anyway.
On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
I hate myself for caving to pressure.

Sorry Rels.
And he blames it on caving into pressure. Given how much he talked about wanting to lynch Tumblewood and not shenanigan, even after Rels posted all of his most scummy stuff at EoD, this is the most plausible explanation if Tictock is indeed town. But it still doesn't seem very solid at all.

Other than this End of Day stuff I kind of like Tictock's play? So I'm not sure what to make of this yet.



I know that unflipped associations are really stupid, but if scott31337 is mafia, Tictock's play looks far more suspicious. Here's the vote count before Tictock's vote switch:
On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Day 1: Vote Count #7



Votes:
  • Rels (4) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood
  • Trfel (0) - disformation
  • disformation (0) - Holyflare, Koshi, geript
  • Tumblewood (2) - Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
  • Koshi (0) - DanelerH
  • geript (1) - Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
  • scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels, Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
  • TicTock (0) - Tumblewood
  • Vivax (1) - disformation, Race Bannon
  • DanelerH (1) - geript

Not voting: -
Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched.
Tictock's vote was really important in sealing the lynch as Rels, instead of scott31337. He could maybe have predicted Palmar switching votes to Rels, but relying on other people to switch would be a huge risk. So if scott31337 flips mafia, Tictock looks a lot worse. Even if scott31337 flips town, his End of Day makes me a bit suspicious about him.



You realise what you've quoted here is trfel putting in unnecessary words to what I already said? You said you didn't want to switch, you looked like you didn't want to switch and then you switched.

Trfel explains what I did in 3 quotes but with 4 long paragraphs instead. You then go on to further say that me not doing anything with the vca is bad but also say that me accusing you because of the vca is bad. Congratulations.

Are you going to cherry pick more of my posts or actually admit that I'm town now? I'm only on a phone at work for 90% of my game playing time so quoting a lot is already an unnecessary hassle but you're welcome to ask me questions instead of shit flinging and I will personally take my time elaborating everything that I thought at the time of each post/moment in the game.

If you're unclear about scott it's because he looked happy day 1 but then when I returned to the thread that's all I had in my mind, vivax's case wasn't so convincing over my happiness read. End of day 1 I only had an hour or less to read over and convince myself about tumble being really mafia or if I wanted to switch. Rels allowed me to and I love a good shenanigan for information and tumble was yelling and looked vaguely townie whereas rels just posted responses and no original thought really. Scott did absolutely nothing and yet actually WAS around at the deadline and then vanished which always emotionally makes me think that person is mafia. From a purely vca standpoint he looked mafka and trfel's case i read that and somewhat agreed with it at some point around then iirc.

His play so far probably makes him mafia and there's no spreadsheet still so almost definitely. Unless you're trying to dispute this point in which case I will yell at you for tmi and kill you today.

Any more inconsistencies you want explained good sir? I like nipping things in the bud so you can't perpetually fling shit at me later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 13:23 GMT
#1334
Not to mention that you link trfel's post saying that if scott is mafia then you are mafia which I have also posted
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 13:54 GMT
#1335
Look TT I'll be real with you, I've only briefly elaborated about your filter but to surmise:

You only really had low level analysis reads

Your posts had no real substance

Your reads are essentially just a list post with pictures

Your vote looked absolutely terrible and it's nothing to do
with rels flipping town it's about the mindset people had to switch and yours is very much broadcasted to the thread that you didn't want to in comparison to everyone else that just yolo sheeps.

You decided to fuck off instead of help town and only return towards the end of the day to fling crap at one of the towniest players again.

Minor association with scott (major too).

I get that you went to play wow or whatever and posted approximately 0 things and basically intentionally wasted our time because you can most definitely post at least 1 line of words in a thread when you're playing a pc game. So basically you had 0 interest in helping solve the game leading to the demise of town talking when you are one of the huge ?. You've said nothing about the CURRENT wagon that we're on but just instead decide to do something useless.

I'm struggling to see why you are town.

Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 14:05 GMT
#1336
On September 02 2016 17:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them



Why is there a qualification next to my name when the two people I'm pushing the most are the people you think are mafia?

I also really, really hate that you're calling out my read on palmar for being repeated when nobody but dane acknowledged it AND he's your scum read. It's so misplaced and just doesn't fit with the rest of the post or your reads.

because I don't care about it even a tenth as much as you do. and I disagree that Palmar would never do that as town
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 02 2016 14:12 GMT
#1337
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 14:14 GMT
#1338
On September 02 2016 23:05 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2016 17:16 Holyflare wrote:
not that bad lynches
scott (probably the worst of these 4)
geript
tt
palmar

I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them



Why is there a qualification next to my name when the two people I'm pushing the most are the people you think are mafia?

I also really, really hate that you're calling out my read on palmar for being repeated when nobody but dane acknowledged it AND he's your scum read. It's so misplaced and just doesn't fit with the rest of the post or your reads.

because I don't care about it even a tenth as much as you do. and I disagree that Palmar would never do that as town


So a town palmar would call me mafia but not do anything about it? I think it would be Christmas for palmar to push this if he was town. It's the meek cba palmar that makes him mafia imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 02 2016 14:16 GMT
#1339
Like Palmar afk is staple town palmar and palmar cba is staple town palmar but palmar thinking Holyflare is mafia and afking doesn't feel right to me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2016 14:22 GMT
#1340
On September 02 2016 23:12 Tumblewood wrote:
it scares me how easily the wagon on Palmar built up and how stubborn it is. you know what attitude really benefits scum if he flips town? "let's lynch Palmar and if he's town we give up". not to mention that tt and I were afk for >36 hours and only got one vote each, when normally that would make us the leading wagons.

What is this purpose behind this post? How many times have you know soft defended Palmar? 5?

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


Fine. You win.
I had a good night of sleep.
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