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On August 30 2016 21:25 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 21:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh.  On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels? On August 29 2016 16:08 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels? yes, cause I liked his early posts. now I am still thinking he is town for having made me laugh Currently doing a reread. Disfo I will laugh if Trfel caught you here, but I'll worry about it after scott died. I love how you are trying to discredit me before I even posted a case. afraid?
I'm pointing out how Trfel picked up on something really smart to pick up on that might just have been you tripping on your own read.
If that's your definition of discrediting, fine. For me it's a reason to townread Truffle and something to use against you later if I feel confident that you're mafia.
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On August 30 2016 21:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 21:25 disformation wrote:On August 30 2016 21:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels? On August 29 2016 16:08 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels? yes, cause I liked his early posts. now I am still thinking he is town for having made me laugh Currently doing a reread. Disfo I will laugh if Trfel caught you here, but I'll worry about it after scott died. I love how you are trying to discredit me before I even posted a case. afraid? I'm pointing out how Trfel picked up on something really smart to pick up on that might just have been you tripping on your own read. If that's your definition of discrediting, fine. For me it's a reason to townread Truffle and something to use against you later if I feel confident that you're mafia.
yes, yes it is. the moment I point out that you made a post that is impossible to come from town you run to find the first thing you can find that is remotely shady on me.
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it is pretty much saying: dont trust the guy that just made a great point on me!
aka discrediting.
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On August 30 2016 21:35 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 21:28 Vivax wrote:On August 30 2016 21:25 disformation wrote:On August 30 2016 21:23 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels? On August 29 2016 16:08 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:05 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. But you posted that Vivax is town before he posted his case on Rels? yes, cause I liked his early posts. now I am still thinking he is town for having made me laugh Currently doing a reread. Disfo I will laugh if Trfel caught you here, but I'll worry about it after scott died. I love how you are trying to discredit me before I even posted a case. afraid? I'm pointing out how Trfel picked up on something really smart to pick up on that might just have been you tripping on your own read. If that's your definition of discrediting, fine. For me it's a reason to townread Truffle and something to use against you later if I feel confident that you're mafia. yes, yes it is. the moment I point out that you made a post that is impossible to come from town you run to find the first thing you can find that is remotely shady on me.
You wish it was remotely shady. It's the sort of subtle stuff that gives mafias away.
"why this read?"
"cause of post at 2"
"you had read at 1.5"
"Yes I townread him for post at 1 but post at 2 made me read him more like that"
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Rayn caught me like that in titanic, Palmar should remember
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idgaf. my reads are as water.
you literally just made a post that is IMPOSSIBLE to come from a town mindset.
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And your reactions show me that I am right about this.
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On August 30 2016 21:27 Palmar wrote:
TT is probably town.
And Vivax should probably not be lynched almost solely the fact that he's actually playing the game, which he tends to avoid as mafia. But that's a shitty meta logic so don't count too much on it.
explain how:
On August 30 2016 21:01 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 20:58 Vivax wrote:
I like TT better now his later posts are pleasant to read which is nice so I can stop being salty. I still think he can be mafia but for now I have a reason not to further talk about him.
I'm trying to meta TW now but I feel like I have a hard time doing it based on content. Only apparent thing so far is that as mafia he would come in every 3-4 hours on average and shoot a salvo of 4-5 posts.
He feels much more present this game so idk. I am tempted to just not have a read on him, watch town mislynch on D1 (that'd be my best case cause then I wouldn't be the guy who was wrong + schadenfreude) and just be the baller who was on scott all along. I think that this is the scummiest thing to be posted as of yet this game.
can come from town.
cause it can't.
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That's relatively easy disformation.
Just pretend that you're aware of the fact that Vivax is a self-righteous asshole, and read that sentence again. Voila.
That sentence is objectively against town agenda, but it's also obviously so, which means Vivax was perfectly aware of how shit it was when he posted it. This means he either chose to act scummy as mafia, or he acted scummy as town because he didn't care. If anything I think the town scenario is more likely.
that's not to say I'm going to 100% townread him, but I think we have better options today.
+ Show Spoiler +
self-righteous assholes unite!
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In earlier games I had marv answering these concerns when he wasn't lynching my ass on D1.
He would say something like "cause Vivax is a stubborn goat that will post scummy shit if it suits his interests but has the grace of being insanely invested at the right times."
Another thing for Palmar:
On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself.
I'm surprised Palmar didn't pick up on this. Suspicion light by geript just passing by, he even gave him a reason to talk about himself and Palmar should love to do that.
What Palmar did instead was just try to get him lynched, I don't like that he ignores the stuff adressed at him though.
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I also haven't dived into his filter. I just assumed that I wasn't going to lynch him after he wrote that long case on scott. I put him in the "meh at least he's trying, I'll worry about it later" category.
Which tends to be a rather large category for me.
As a complete sidenote, the things I'm good at in mafia are day 1 scumhunting on one hand, and organizing/leading town on the other. The only reason I'm good at day 1 scumhunting is because I'm not too worried about townreading mafia on day 1. My entire strategy is to slowly remove people from the pool of candidates I want to lynch, and then hopefully there's proportionally more mafia left in the pool than in the game itself, increasing my chance of hitting one.
For reference, I'm probably not lynching Koshi, TT, disfo, Vivax, RB today. Almost all of them for effort or me agreeing with things they say, except RB.
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So is it true you'd flip Trfel in this case just to confirm yourself as town or not?
It's meta based and you should be the one knowing it best.
Answering that question would give us a forecast of whether there's going to be a clinch between you and geript over your own meta, so far he seems to be the most interested guy into figuring out your alignment.
Not answering it keeps up a status quo that would suit you if you feel lazy, and that's not so cool.
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On August 30 2016 21:58 Palmar wrote:That's relatively easy disformation. Just pretend that you're aware of the fact that Vivax is a self-righteous asshole, and read that sentence again. Voila. That sentence is objectively against town agenda, but it's also obviously so, which means Vivax was perfectly aware of how shit it was when he posted it. This means he either chose to act scummy as mafia, or he acted scummy as town because he didn't care. If anything I think the town scenario is more likely. that's not to say I'm going to 100% townread him, but I think we have better options today. + Show Spoiler +
self-righteous assholes unite!
aight. makes sense. still totally dont like his responses though.
On August 30 2016 22:02 Palmar wrote:
I also haven't dived into his filter. I just assumed that I wasn't going to lynch him after he wrote that long case on scott. I put him in the "meh at least he's trying, I'll worry about it later" category.
Which tends to be a rather large category for me.
As a complete sidenote, the things I'm good at in mafia are day 1 scumhunting on one hand, and organizing/leading town on the other. The only reason I'm good at day 1 scumhunting is because I'm not too worried about townreading mafia on day 1. My entire strategy is to slowly remove people from the pool of candidates I want to lynch, and then hopefully there's proportionally more mafia left in the pool than in the game itself, increasing my chance of hitting one.
For reference, I'm probably not lynching Koshi, TT, disfo, Vivax, RB today. Almost all of them for effort or me agreeing with things they say, except RB.
wouldnt recommend town reading me for effort. I am pretty tryhard as either alignment.
still would like to hear a few opinions on Vivax. still willing to lynch tw though.
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Retracting the TR on Trfel. While his pickup on the disfo oddity seemed good it happened during a spree of questions that makes it appear less original than I thought it was.
On August 29 2016 16:34 Trfel wrote:TumblewoodTumblewood has made several reads this game but it doesn't feel like he cares about those reads at all. One big example of this is his Palmar read: Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I feel like if you applied that read to every situation you'd lynch scum the same amount as normal. Tumblewood feels a bit unsure and apathetic about Palmar's scumread of Rels, but still seems to think that Palmar may be mafia. Yet when I asked him for more about this read, he said no. In addition, there is no continuity to his reads. It just doesn't seem like he cares about his reads at all. Thoughts?
Also don't understand why he's not joining the TW wagon having posted this earlier. Shouldn't he be like, remembering what he posted here and happy to jump on TW and digging this up again?
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On August 30 2016 22:27 Vivax wrote:Retracting the TR on Trfel. While his pickup on the disfo oddity seemed good it happened during a spree of questions that makes it appear less original than I thought it was. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 16:34 Trfel wrote:TumblewoodTumblewood has made several reads this game but it doesn't feel like he cares about those reads at all. One big example of this is his Palmar read: On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I feel like if you applied that read to every situation you'd lynch scum the same amount as normal. Tumblewood feels a bit unsure and apathetic about Palmar's scumread of Rels, but still seems to think that Palmar may be mafia. Yet when I asked him for more about this read, he said no. In addition, there is no continuity to his reads. It just doesn't seem like he cares about his reads at all. Thoughts? Also don't understand why he's not joining the TW wagon having posted this earlier. Shouldn't he be like, remembering what he posted here and happy to jump on TW and digging this up again?
the way I understood it is that he likes neither of tw and scott and thinks scott looks worse/is more likely scum? like he had two big posts about that ~5h ago.
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Fair warning this will be one of the games where I change reads often I feel it. So I'm going to step on a lot of toes, and I might seem all over the place. But at the end of the day I should have a clear idea of where to look.
On August 30 2016 00:50 DanelerH wrote:Rels certainly seems suspicious for having ony said "yo", then disappearing, but I don't think we have enough information to lynch him. I'm more interested in Geript right now. Other than the posts in the spoiler below, his strange reads are pretty much all he's said. It would be one thing if they were ordered by person, then gives an alignment after each one, but they're ordered by timestamp, which makes them seem a lot less coherent. As Palmar pointed out, there is also a pretty blatant contradiction in his read on Race Bannon. Because of this, I think I'm going to vote for Geript, as well. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. On August 29 2016 10:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:51 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote:On August 29 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:46 Trfel wrote:Oh boy, disformation, I can't wait to see how you react if/when I actually push you For you less meta-inclined people, Palmar and Vivax are very likely town ^^ at least if Trfel is mafia and ever flips I'm spewed confirmed town status. That's nice. This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. ![[image loading]](https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/71378636.jpg) I do, but I'm at work. You'll get them later tonight.
This post reads a lot like the type of post mafia makes to join a wagon. Mostly cause he overemphasizes the importance of Rels saying yo then disappearing. When I made the "case" on Rels I wasn't even that serious, I was just trying to push Palmar's argument forward with a bit of fun. The placement of mentioning that is also odd, don't ask me why, I just think it doesn't belong in a post that's supposed to be his entry ticket to the geript wagon.
He mentions it right before finding some own lazy reasons to join the geript wagon that seem overexplanatory when Palmar gave him a reason just a few posts before.
You only tend to do that stuff when you're afraid of looking scummy for andwagoning too easily.
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I think I had a town lean for shitty reasons on DanelerH, but I cant even remember what that shitty reason was. 
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On August 30 2016 22:57 disformation wrote:I think I had a town lean for shitty reasons on DanelerH, but I cant even remember what that shitty reason was.
Oh nvm I kinda detracted that one already over the same post vivax was criticizing just now and put him in null.
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HF is very sheepable this game. Moreso than Palmar, even though he will hate me for saying this.
I never get who the hell Dan talks about when he says xym/xe, there is no player going by that name can you for the love of god use the actual names or do you have a chinese autocorrect turned on?
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You guys should just read my filter instead of rehashing the same point I've already made. I'm really good at this game.
Seen some bad stuff but at work so later.
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