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On August 30 2016 23:11 Holyflare wrote: You guys should just read my filter instead of rehashing the same point I've already made. I'm really good at this game. Seen some bad stuff but at work so later. Cool. think i can look at your filter next. | ||
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Race Bannon
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Race Bannon
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As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness. Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted. On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote: More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons? This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons". ##vote: Vivax On August 29 2016 06:56 Palmar wrote: I declare this game to be a case game. This means that if you want someone to get lynched, you post a case. Don't just talk in stupid circles and spam for ages, make a case, summarize your points and make it concise. If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble. Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case. On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote: If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast. Almost 100% lock town tbh. If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way. The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective. The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote: also I'm a moron, this is on the thing. I don't think that changes Race's thought patter. Like, why would anyone make that "mistake" as any other role than vanilla town. Like there's basically 99% chance he read his role pm, figured that it would be hard for mafia to fake it and just rolled with it. The alternative scenario that he is mafia, figures that vanilla role pm might be weird, and instead of begging host for it (if he genuinely didn't know it was in the op) and decides to come up with this weird ruse hoping someone jumps it (like I'm doing now) and calls him town for it. It's just way too complicated. The simple solution is, Race Bannon is town. probably. (maybe). I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test. On August 29 2016 07:33 Palmar wrote: Like I'm not only fairly sure he's town, I'm fairly sure he's precisely vanilla town. No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe. On August 29 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote: Tumble has the "Vivax is town" mafia addendum. Disformation has the "oh wait it is probably breaking meta" mafia addendum This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum. Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today. | ||
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Now that you mention it I remember scum!ritoky saying the same about town!disfoformation in NSM17. | ||
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Race Bannon
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Vivax
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What irritates me about Trfel is the extremely diplomatic and orderly tone he has but I can't remember that not being his town play. So just something that seems scummy to me but actually isn't. Given that the only options he has are scott and tumble and he chose scott he's going to be my friend this day. The flips will tell. On August 30 2016 23:36 Race Bannon wrote: It's a tone read, and easily mistakable for semantic nitpicking. But there is substance behind it, in terms of everything coming together in a way that exposes Vivax as a dirty little scumfuck. I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts. You are absolutely right that I left Tumble's relationship towards Rels open to interpretation, I thought that if they aren't mafia together, they could still be an internet couple, or business partners. Who knows! | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 30 2016 23:45 Vivax wrote: I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts. It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good? I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens. | ||
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Vivax
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Switching to TW now would mean that I admit defeat of my own case. And it can not be what must not be. Maybe on D2, but D2 will be full of wagon analysis from D1 that will change all the pieces. I am sure the three scummers in this game have no thread presence, maybe disfo has some if he's mafia, but that's not a matter for D1. If Palmar is one of them he's in full bus mode on TW right now. TW even replied to Koshi's case "true, something something", which seems like he capitulated. Palmar abandoned his push on geript in super lightning mode once it stopped gaining traction which I don't like at all. So maybe there is a bit of swagger to be had still. Palmar, Tumblewood and...scott? Like Palmar didn't even spend a single post on the case on scott, maybe cause he felt like he didn't have to since it's still very much under the radar. But I feel like Palmar is mafia in this game, cause for the fact he's playing there's very little conviction behind his own arguments, and he sucked up to Koshi which is a nono for town Palmar. | ||
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On August 30 2016 23:57 Race Bannon wrote: It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good? I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens. Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed. | ||
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On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote: maybe palmar's mafia On August 29 2016 06:26 scott31337 wrote: Palmar playing on a weekend is extremely suspicious. I just had a little flashback. These posts were so early in the game and so out of line with what everybody else was thinking, that it makes me believe they were soft bussing Palmar like newbs. Geript posted something similar later but concluded with having no clue still, so not quite the same category (phew) | ||
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Race Bannon
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On August 31 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote: Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed. 1. It was fairly early and scott hasn't posted enough for a good case. 2. A meta argument stemming from someone other than the person being cased has no place in the case, no prominent place, no less prominent place, no place.(period) On August 31 2016 00:00 Vivax wrote: Palmar abandoned his push on geript in super lightning mode once it stopped gaining traction which I don't like at all. So maybe there is a bit of swagger to be had still. Palmar, Tumblewood and...scott? Like Palmar didn't even spend a single post on the case on scott, maybe cause he felt like he didn't have to since it's still very much under the radar. But I feel like Palmar is mafia in this game, cause for the fact he's playing there's very little conviction behind his own arguments, and he sucked up to Koshi which is a nono for town Palmar. You're theorzing scum triangle constellations already? Where does this hubris stem from. The impression I got from Palmar is that he does exactly this: migrate from one place to another, seemingly caring only about the size of wagons for pressure. | ||
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and I like RB. | ||
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On August 31 2016 00:00 Vivax wrote: [...] TW even replied to Koshi's case "true, something something", which seems like he capitulated. [...] Can you fetch me that post? Cause to me it looks more like: On August 29 2016 08:05 Tumblewood wrote: btw Koshi your read sucks | ||
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Vivax
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On August 31 2016 00:17 disformation wrote: Can you fetch me that post? Cause to me it looks more like: On August 30 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote: that's a good thought to have, but it was just an idea that popped into my head for no good reason. I think I saw Palmar trying to get cheeky but what does that even mean. I no longer think Palmar is mafia ah tru I am known for being erratic as scum and clear as town | ||
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On August 31 2016 00:19 Vivax wrote: Mistook Koshi for TT there, but whatevs, still reads like he stopped defending himself ah that is probably why i didnt see it. well his whole tone is kinda that defeated one as was pointed out a few times already. | ||
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On August 29 2016 06:02 Vivax wrote: Fine you can get lynched don't think that your smugness will save you from saying stupid things. ##Vote Trfel | ||
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