[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia - Page 35

On August 30 2016 13:03 Tumblewood wrote:

it's a weak suspicion. mostly my reaction when someone slips into the town category in my mind and then I think "oh, maybe they could be scum" or "why am I townreading them"

On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote:


If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way.
The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective.

On August 31 2016 01:37 DanelerH wrote:
Vivax, at the beginning of the game, Disformation and Trfel each made a joke about being confirmed Town and Mafia (respectively). For some reason, you felt the need to respond to these. Why is this?

On August 30 2016 23:10 Vivax wrote:
HF is very sheepable this game. Moreso than Palmar, even though he will hate me for saying this.

I never get who the hell Dan talks about when he says xym/xe, there is no player going by that name can you for the love of god use the actual names or do you have a chinese autocorrect turned on?

On August 31 2016 01:47 Vivax wrote:


I can only talk in retrospect, but I replied to disfo cause he's not conf town for posting first, and I voted Trfel cause he claimed scum.

On August 31 2016 00:00 Vivax wrote:
Rels, TW, Scott seems like a decent, but very easy D1 guess. But it seems to be such a common opinion that there's no swag in adopting it.

Switching to TW now would mean that I admit defeat of my own case. And it can not be what must not be. Maybe on D2, but D2 will be full of wagon analysis from D1 that will change all the pieces.

I am sure the three scummers in this game have no thread presence, maybe disfo has some if he's mafia, but that's not a matter for D1. If Palmar is one of them he's in full bus mode on TW right now. TW even replied to Koshi's case "true, something something", which seems like he capitulated.

Palmar abandoned his push on geript in super lightning mode once it stopped gaining traction which I don't like at all.

So maybe there is a bit of swagger to be had still. Palmar, Tumblewood and...scott? Like Palmar didn't even spend a single post on the case on scott, maybe cause he felt like he didn't have to since it's still very much under the radar. But I feel like Palmar is mafia in this game, cause for the fact he's playing there's very little conviction behind his own arguments, and he sucked up to Koshi which is a nono for town Palmar.

On August 31 2016 01:49 DanelerH wrote:


But was the latter neccessary? It seems like a bit of an excessive for a response to a joke.

On August 31 2016 01:47 Palmar wrote:

HF has done literally nothing worth noticing.

On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote:


I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test.


No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe.

On August 31 2016 01:54 Vivax wrote:


Wrong. He is a strong proponent of the TW lynch, contrary to you even took notice and commented on the case on scott, pressured Danieler, and disagreed with your geript case. Overall he has been doing discussion that looks fruitful to me, while you seem to be very selective about the things you want to talk about or reply to.

HF 1 Palmar 0

On August 29 2016 06:32 Vivax wrote:


I was thinking about writing up how much I am a big fanboy of yours and mad respect and all and so I stand behind your Rels=scum theory.

On August 31 2016 01:40 DanelerH wrote:


One more question for you, then. Why are your reads on Scott so erratic?

On August 30 2016 19:54 Palmar wrote:
Voting Tumblewood

Partly because I admire the fact Koshi wrote a case that looks good and I want to support a good effort.
Mostly though because he put me in "null/I don't care" category.

On August 30 2016 21:21 disformation wrote:

that doesnt make anyone town.

On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote:
Rereading the thread now, I'm at #180; having fun.

As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness.

Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted.



This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons".

##vote: Vivax



If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble.

Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case.



If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way.
The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective.

The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x


I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test.


No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe.


This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum.

Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today.

On August 31 2016 01:57 DanelerH wrote:


I have another question for you, Vivax. There are a couple of things off about this post. The intro of the post alone is odd, but you also seem to agree with the theory for no reason. Could you clarify these?

On August 31 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:

if this vote is still here by deadline Palmar is 100 million percent mafia

On August 31 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:


Explain why this must be true. Also, how did you not have an opinion on me in the early game when I was probably one of the most prominent players during that phase of the game?

On August 31 2016 02:03 Tumblewood wrote:

because I don't try to read you because I'm usually wrong and paranoid. not until I see d1 flip at least