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Day 1: Vote Count![[image loading]](http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/star_wars_mobile_1.jpg) Yes, that picture should resemble hanging Star Wars characters.
Votes:
- Rels (5) - Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation,
Koshi, Tictock
- Trfel (0) -
disformation
- disformation (2) - Holyflare,
Koshi, geript
- Tumblewood (1) -
Koshi Koshi
- Koshi (1) - DanelerH
Not voting (4) - Race Bannon, Tumblewood, Rels, Trfel.
Currently, Rels is set to be lynched.
Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host.
Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
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Disformation, I have a terrible meta read that says that Tictock is mafia.
My terrible meta read is that when Tictock is mafia, he tends to cooperate with people and be a bit nicer to them. And when he's town, he can be a bit more abrasive and uses a harsher tone to voice his suspicions.
I think that this meta is semi-decent (but terrible because I am the one who said it), and I think that it points towards Tictock being mafia in this game. Do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's meta, and if so, do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's play this game with respect to this?
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On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me
lynch this guy. typical mafia sentence. I wanted to make this sentence last game so many times but didn't because I was afraid it would anger town.
2 mafia points for Tumble.
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On August 29 2016 11:42 Tumblewood wrote:oh like I've been unusually lazy and bad
Cop out answer.
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On August 29 2016 16:50 disformation wrote:
On a side note: I am not sure I like geript not interacting with anyone and just dumping these post by post commentaries in thread.
Does feel totally different to geript when I last played with him.
But since that was a long while ago and I only played with geript once:
can the ppl who played with geript more often comment on that? I don't really count for "playing with geript often", but I agree that geript sharing reads and vanishing feels off-putting. However, geript isn't always the most involved as town (he tends to be at least decently involved iirc), and more importantly, it's a bit late in the US so it does make some sense for him to leave right after posting. I like that you noticed that, though, disformation.
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On August 29 2016 16:52 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I have a terrible meta read that says that Tictock is mafia.
My terrible meta read is that when Tictock is mafia, he tends to cooperate with people and be a bit nicer to them. And when he's town, he can be a bit more abrasive and uses a harsher tone to voice his suspicions.
I think that this meta is semi-decent (but terrible because I am the one who said it), and I think that it points towards Tictock being mafia in this game. Do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's meta, and if so, do you agree with my interpretation of Tictock's play this game with respect to this?
hm.
well he might be trying to pocket/buddy me. In which case he has succeeded.
I remember that TT can get into really bad tunnels as town, which is why I call him tunneltock from time to time. Don't really know about that nice/brash thing. Would have to read some old filters from him.
I remember being impressed by his scum play in a game where I shadowed... damdy?
So not sure about this without reading some old games.
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On August 29 2016 12:23 Tumblewood wrote:
damn I have these super secret strats but they require me to read filters zzz...
maybe I'll use the super duper secret strat of sheeping someone
This guy is lost. Please put him out of his misery.
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Dunno. TW feels a bit like in palmars game after he gave up.
Makes no sense to have given up in this game though. xD
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On August 29 2016 15:34 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that. Or he is mafia with him! 2 found? Also, someone help me out, which two people is Koshi referring to as being mafia in this post?
No. Obviously I am talking about Tfrel and Vivax.
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On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. 
Not sure if I like this answer but I'll allow it.
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Sorry, disformation, I know I've asked you a ton of questions this game, but one more....
I'm honestly not really sure where you're at, even after reading your filter. Who are some of your strongest townreads and scumreads?
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On August 29 2016 16:22 Trfel wrote:
I think I kind of like DanelerH. It feels like he is involved with the game and actually interested in looking into people's thinking behind their actions. Thoughts?
He is going to be null for life in this game. Probably good vigshot.
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On August 29 2016 16:46 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 16:34 Trfel wrote:TumblewoodTumblewood has made several reads this game but it doesn't feel like he cares about those reads at all. One big example of this is his Palmar read: On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I feel like if you applied that read to every situation you'd lynch scum the same amount as normal. Tumblewood feels a bit unsure and apathetic about Palmar's scumread of Rels, but still seems to think that Palmar may be mafia. Yet when I asked him for more about this read, he said no. In addition, there is no continuity to his reads. It just doesn't seem like he cares about his reads at all. Thoughts? I did like the scott spreadsheet thing. Also liked how he was just like "Koshi your read sucks" for tone reasons. Though the later one is super weak. Rest of his filter is super bleh. Like I get demotivated from reading that, too. xD Guess that would make for a scumlean or something.
scumlean or something?
The guy is lock mafia.
Normally TW is actually pretty good and pretty clear to read. Bit low content poster but he has a clear view of the game in his head.
Something amazing needs to happen for me to not unvote him.
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Going to run with a TW & RB mafia team. You guys can find the third.
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On August 29 2016 17:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 16:03 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:02 Trfel wrote:
Bleh, you're right. Okay, so why do you think that Vivax is town then? his case on Rels made me laugh. Not sure if I like this answer but I'll allow it.
Thank you for your generosity. :p
On August 29 2016 17:03 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, disformation, I know I've asked you a ton of questions this game, but one more....
I'm honestly not really sure where you're at, even after reading your filter. Who are some of your strongest townreads and scumreads?
Uh. That would require myself knowing where I am at?
Let me try:
wtf I dont know how to handle that
new scott
I think is town, but dont want to call town, because trust issues from last game
koshi
town lean for shitty reasons
vivax
rb
DanelerH
town read for shitty reasons
tt
actualy town read
trfel
scum leans
tw
rels royce
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On August 29 2016 17:08 Koshi wrote:
Going to run with a TW & RB mafia team. You guys can find the third.
can you explain your RB scum read for me?
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On August 29 2016 17:10 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 17:08 Koshi wrote:
Going to run with a TW & RB mafia team. You guys can find the third. can you explain your RB scum read for me?
Not really. I just found the TW + Koshi read so bad I think one of those is mafia and it isn't me.
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It's an unflipped association read with a pinch of TMI.
The really good stuff.
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geript
On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:
Overall:
HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual. The important points in bold: Tictock as town, and Race Bannon as probably scum.
Here is what geript says about Tictock:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.
Also, salut Rels! This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing. I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it. I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof. Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:A couple of Vivax's posts don't mesh with how I'm seeing the game at all. Ehh I think I need context. On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning. Here he is basically saying that Tumble reacting to Palmar's thing with Rels is an "attention shift" like there is possible association between Rels and Tumble. While Vivax's own opinion of Rels is basically "Palmar is a cool guy, and makes a good point about Rels" I kinda see Vivax doing exactly what he is accusing Tumble of doing here, shifting some attention from people discussing Rels onto Tumble. I guess there's a logic to this, but it really doesn't add up. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though. thank you, I was proud of that read Wait, WTF???? This:
Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me. waitwaitwait hold on all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia and we're scumbuddies? no way I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post. Willing to townlean you for this though.
This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.
And here is what geript says about Race Bannon:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia. Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up. On August 29 2016 15:05 geript wrote:This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.
I kind of get geript's scumread of Race Bannon, but it feels very weak, especially after he agreed with Palmar's reason to townread him, and yet geript puts it the same as his strongest scumreads. And I really, really don't understand how geript has these thoughts about Tictock's play but ends in a town read on him anyway. Geript's comments here (particularly on Tictock) don't seem to match the end read.
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On August 29 2016 17:19 Koshi wrote:
It's an unflipped association read with a pinch of TMI.
The really good stuff.
also: without any explanation whatsoever.
what do you think about that vt flavor thing he started out with?
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