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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
August 29 2016 03:14 GMT
#301
By the way Scott...
On August 29 2016 07:10 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote:
I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory.


This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP.

Did you roll mafia again?


What did you make of Palmar's reasoning on RB?
I can take that responsibility.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2016 03:20 GMT
#302
On August 29 2016 12:03 Trfel wrote:
@Tumblewood:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
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On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?
Do you have any responses to these concerns?

no. I don't think it matters
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2016 03:23 GMT
#303
damn I have these super secret strats but they require me to read filters zzz...
maybe I'll use the super duper secret strat of sheeping someone
good times for all
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
August 29 2016 03:29 GMT
#304
On August 29 2016 12:14 Tictock wrote:
By the way Scott...
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:10 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote:
I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory.


This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP.

Did you roll mafia again?


What did you make of Palmar's reasoning on RB?


I saw it a different way, but it makes a lot of sense from Palmar's PoV as well. Race is still in my mafia pool.

It's a weekend, and I'm still weird on Palmar posting at all to be honest.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
August 29 2016 03:35 GMT
#305
On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 29 2016 11:13 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:01 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me


Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody.

Could you tell me more?


I hadn't noticed that everyone had posted.

Points to you for paying attention.

why is that a townlean

...

OH SHIT
tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred
or not, maybe


*noted*
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2016 05:38 GMT
#306
meh I like scott now
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2016 05:38 GMT
#307
new scott > afk scott
and is also probably town
good times for all
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 29 2016 05:45 GMT
#308
On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:
Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL.

I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row

Trfel should know better than to open like this as town.

On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

This expansion is pretty bad. Vivax had the only correct response to Trfel's "I am scum" post. This post and the expansion from it are bad. I associate that more with scum!trfel but he can be bad as town too.

On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

yes
yes
yes
why not?

This post is kinda towny. I wish the "why not?" weren't a question. The confident "come at me bro" aspect of it I like, but the question mark throws a damper on that somewhat.

On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

not a big fan of this post. "I'll tell you what I'm going to talk about. Say nothing meaninful about it. Give random townread."

On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote:
1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia.

Curious if plammar being plammar or if actual read. I'm sure he'll talk about in some put me to sleep way.

On August 29 2016 06:26 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote:
1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia.


Palmar playing on a weekend is extremely suspicious.

This is surprisingly not an awful observation.

On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote:
ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this?

confirmed not reading

On August 29 2016 06:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:30 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:23 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

yes
yes
yes
why not?
So the reason you posted that is just because you feel that there's no reason not to?

Because to me, it seems like not only a pointless statement, but also averting attention by saying "Look, I did the same thing that someone else did! That's the explanation!" instead of speaking for yourself. It feels a bit out of place. Am I missing something?

averting attention away from what?
Short answer: yourself
+ Show Spoiler [Long Answer] +
It's one thing to say, "here are my thoughts". It's another to say, "here are someone else's thoughts, shown over here, and so I'm doing the same thing". This is made much greater in a game of mafia, because even though people don't know your alignment, they know that Damdred was town in that game and did it as town, so therefore the actions that you took are sensible for town.

Instead of simply ignoring it (which is perfectly valid) or providing an explanation that is your own words, and your own ideas, instead of someone else's.

I don't believe you believe that crap this early in the game. You are def. trying to make an elephant out of nothing here.
Classical scum.

##vote Trfel

I really don't get this post. I feel like any decent player would've ignored this shit already regardless of alignment.

On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:30 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:
This is not a joke btw. Rels is probably mafia.

please enlighten me.
for instantly disappearing after posting a 2 character post? Is that a meta thing for him?

Ah fantastic.

No, it's absolutely not a meta thing.

You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things.

But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves.

He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia.

I am not impressed.

On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:35 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia
Please explain?

nah no thanks

Minus points here. I figured his "maybe plammar is mafia" post was just a verbal jab. This makes it seem like he was intending to do more with it but meh.

On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.

That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool.

useless passive rehash

On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.

I actually like this post. I don't agree with it, but there's thought behind it.

On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?

I like Trfel picking up on this post.

On August 29 2016 07:00 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?
Okay, think I get what you're saying. Tumblewood, I'd appreciate an explanation

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On August 29 2016 06:53 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?

Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays.


He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean?

when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum.
But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat.
Disformation, last question for now, when you say "breaking meta", what are you referring to?

And right back to useless questions...

On August 29 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

This guy is mafia.

Don't hate this post.

On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia.

Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up.

On August 29 2016 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
currently trying to debate if trfel is going for the mad wifom play (i have seen sl or oneg (would need to doublecheck)) insta scum claim as scum before. dont know if that would be in trfel's scum range. would go with no.
or is he trying to get town to generate content by talking about that.

on the other hand he is kinda annoying me already, which is normally not in trfel's range. so he might be trying to break meta.


Flip flop where he claims Trfel wouldn't make that post as mafia but calls him mafia anyway.

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On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.

That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool.


Flip flop defending Rels based on his own anecdotal evidence but calls him mafia anyway.

More flip flops than a holiday in China.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I really like this. I liked it when I first saw it and I like it again now. Sadly I don't think it says anything about HF.

On August 29 2016 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
i don't even get your tumble read, what are you smoking?

On August 29 2016 08:04 Holyflare wrote:
nvm i actually read what he posted now

carry on

I like the followup though even if it is passive.

On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.

Also, salut Rels!


This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing.

I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it.

I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up.

On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:
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On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof.


Hey, that was my plan!

Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy.

For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them.

Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town.

That is all.

## Vote: Rels

This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 05:55 GMT
#309
On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:
Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL.

I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row

Trfel should know better than to open like this as town.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

This expansion is pretty bad. Vivax had the only correct response to Trfel's "I am scum" post. This post and the expansion from it are bad. I associate that more with scum!trfel but he can be bad as town too.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

yes
yes
yes
why not?

This post is kinda towny. I wish the "why not?" weren't a question. The confident "come at me bro" aspect of it I like, but the question mark throws a damper on that somewhat.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

not a big fan of this post. "I'll tell you what I'm going to talk about. Say nothing meaninful about it. Give random townread."

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On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote:
1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia.

Curious if plammar being plammar or if actual read. I'm sure he'll talk about in some put me to sleep way.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:26 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote:
1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia.


Palmar playing on a weekend is extremely suspicious.

This is surprisingly not an awful observation.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 06:31 Palmar wrote:
ok is no one going to ask me how I came up with my theory? what is this?

confirmed not reading

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On August 29 2016 06:32 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:30 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:23 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:20 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:08 Trfel wrote:
Disformation, I find it very odd that you felt the need to justify your earlier post after Vivax made an obviously joking statement. Please explain?

Vivax was making a joke?
Okay, joke was probably not the best word. Try "light-hearted comment" instead.

1. You posted at the start of the game that you were confirmed town. I am assuming here (correct me if I am wrong) that the reason that you are (supposedly) confirmed town is that you made the first post. I am also assuming (again, correct me if I am wrong) that everyone is aware that being confirmed town by virtue of having the first post in the game is a joke.

2. Vivax points out that you are not in fact confirmed town (and again, we're assuming that this is in fact a true statement).

3. You respond to Vivax here.

I'm interested in why you responded in the post mentioned in (3) above.

yes
yes
yes
why not?
So the reason you posted that is just because you feel that there's no reason not to?

Because to me, it seems like not only a pointless statement, but also averting attention by saying "Look, I did the same thing that someone else did! That's the explanation!" instead of speaking for yourself. It feels a bit out of place. Am I missing something?

averting attention away from what?
Short answer: yourself
+ Show Spoiler [Long Answer] +
It's one thing to say, "here are my thoughts". It's another to say, "here are someone else's thoughts, shown over here, and so I'm doing the same thing". This is made much greater in a game of mafia, because even though people don't know your alignment, they know that Damdred was town in that game and did it as town, so therefore the actions that you took are sensible for town.

Instead of simply ignoring it (which is perfectly valid) or providing an explanation that is your own words, and your own ideas, instead of someone else's.

I don't believe you believe that crap this early in the game. You are def. trying to make an elephant out of nothing here.
Classical scum.

##vote Trfel

I really don't get this post. I feel like any decent player would've ignored this shit already regardless of alignment.

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On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:30 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:
This is not a joke btw. Rels is probably mafia.

please enlighten me.
for instantly disappearing after posting a 2 character post? Is that a meta thing for him?

Ah fantastic.

No, it's absolutely not a meta thing.

You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things.

But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves.

He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia.

I am not impressed.

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On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:35 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia
Please explain?

nah no thanks

Minus points here. I figured his "maybe plammar is mafia" post was just a verbal jab. This makes it seem like he was intending to do more with it but meh.

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On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.

That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool.

useless passive rehash

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On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.

I actually like this post. I don't agree with it, but there's thought behind it.

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On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?

I like Trfel picking up on this post.

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On August 29 2016 07:00 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:49 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.
Sorry Vivax, I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm not quite getting what you're saying.

You're saying that if Tumblewood was actually interested in my alignment, and actually wanted to talk about me, then he would have discussed your post about me instead of just talking about Palmar's read on Rels? Or am I wrong?


More or less. I think he was way more drawn to the Rels issue than to yours which he initially mentioned. But why would he? Does he just have fun antagonizing Palmar? Is he more protective of Rels for other reasons?
Okay, think I get what you're saying. Tumblewood, I'd appreciate an explanation

On August 29 2016 06:53 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote:
Eh, what do you think of Trfel?
Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing?

Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays.


He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean?

when I entered the game last game a lot of ppl scum read me. E.g. Hats though I would very likely be scum.
But your argument makes a lot of sense. Unless Trfel is breaking meta hardcore I don't think he would push me like this right of the bat.
Disformation, last question for now, when you say "breaking meta", what are you referring to?

And right back to useless questions...

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On August 29 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

This guy is mafia.

Don't hate this post.

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On August 29 2016 07:29 Palmar wrote:
Although just thinking that makes him like super likely to be town. Which kinda sucks, because it's a super "cheap" townread, but there is almost no way Race Bannon makes that post as mafia.

Probably true, but I want to lynch him just for bringing it up.

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On August 29 2016 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:24 disformation wrote:
currently trying to debate if trfel is going for the mad wifom play (i have seen sl or oneg (would need to doublecheck)) insta scum claim as scum before. dont know if that would be in trfel's scum range. would go with no.
or is he trying to get town to generate content by talking about that.

on the other hand he is kinda annoying me already, which is normally not in trfel's range. so he might be trying to break meta.


Flip flop where he claims Trfel wouldn't make that post as mafia but calls him mafia anyway.

On August 29 2016 06:41 disformation wrote:
I think Palmar's explanation makes sense, but I have problems with my early D1 as either alignment (##selfmeta) and Rels hasn't been playing very well lately (no offense). So I kinda can Rels see with a weak opening as either alignment.

That being said I think I'll throw him into my scum lean pool.


Flip flop defending Rels based on his own anecdotal evidence but calls him mafia anyway.

More flip flops than a holiday in China.

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[image loading]

I really like this. I liked it when I first saw it and I like it again now. Sadly I don't think it says anything about HF.

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On August 29 2016 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
i don't even get your tumble read, what are you smoking?

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On August 29 2016 08:04 Holyflare wrote:
nvm i actually read what he posted now

carry on

I like the followup though even if it is passive.

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On August 29 2016 08:06 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:22 Vivax wrote:
I see good will from Trfel here but it's not going to catch a mafia disfo. So far both of them posted null stuff, with Trfel's scumclaim being posted to look like he wanted to draw attention, but since he's posting in sluggish tempo I'm not sure he wanted to actually draw attention but the opposite. But I don't want to crash his party if he thinks he's achieving something.

Also, salut Rels!


This strikes me as the most interesting post thus far. Basically a long winded way of saying he has no idea what Trfel is doing.

I agree with the first sentance but the rest is calling out Trfel for something, then saying he doesn't want to push Trfel for it. Mild scum lean for casting shade on Trfel but not wanting to look like a bad guy while doing it.

I like picking up on the Vivax post and bringing it back up.

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On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof.


Hey, that was my plan!

Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy.

For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them.

Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town.

That is all.

## Vote: Rels

This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain.

good morning. what do you conclude ftom liking/disliking/not being impressed/etc. ?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 06:03 GMT
#310
On August 29 2016 12:35 scott31337 wrote:
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On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:13 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:01 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote:
wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me


Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody.

Could you tell me more?


I hadn't noticed that everyone had posted.

Points to you for paying attention.

why is that a townlean

...

OH SHIT
tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred
or not, maybe


*noted*

ive seen a scum trying to coast by on effort of using a huge spreadsheet and posting meh reads bqsed on that before.
that beong said i like new scott so far. lets see what he does with it.

geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 29 2016 06:05 GMT
#311
On August 29 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:
A couple of Vivax's posts don't mesh with how I'm seeing the game at all.

Ehh I think I need context.

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On August 29 2016 06:42 Vivax wrote:
Tumble's attention shift from Trfel along with my post that went undiscussed (maybe I'm just boring or post too much stuff to reply to in detail?) to Rels being accused by Palmar is kinda interesting. It's like the Rels issue is more important for him than the Trfel one without visible reasoning.


Here he is basically saying that Tumble reacting to Palmar's thing with Rels is an "attention shift" like there is possible association between Rels and Tumble. While Vivax's own opinion of Rels is basically "Palmar is a cool guy, and makes a good point about Rels"

I kinda see Vivax doing exactly what he is accusing Tumble of doing here, shifting some attention from people discussing Rels onto Tumble.

I guess there's a logic to this, but it really doesn't add up.

On August 29 2016 10:20 scott31337 wrote:
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On August 29 2016 10:10 DanelerH wrote:
I don't know if this is how xe normally plays, but I am currently suspicious of Koshi. Out of 27 posts so far, 16 of them were irrelevant and uncontributive. Out of the 11 that are a bit more contributive, two of them are cause for immediate suspicion:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?


On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast.

Almost 100% lock town tbh.



Five of them are voting for Tumblewood without adding anything:
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On August 29 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

This guy is mafia.


On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Tumblewood/Rels

prime suspects.


On August 29 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Wait, Koshi, I thought that you were joking about Tumblewood being mafia?

Assuming that you are actually suspicious of him, why?

I don't like the read. Seems forced. Face value read.


On August 29 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
Maybe that isn't the best explanation but you just gotta believe.


On August 29 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:
Ohh I know it:

He makes a really forced read on Tfrel and then adds "oh and Vivax is town" to get away with the forced read and get some extra cred.



After xyr first vote, xe almost immediately switches to someone else, then back to the first vote:
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On August 29 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Going to vote Tumblewood. If he is mafia I am confirmed greatest player alive.

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


On August 29 2016 07:59 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote disformation


Goddamn. I had spidersenses going off on one of those posts as well but ignored them. But I like that read even more than mine.


On August 29 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##Tumblewood


I am going to stick with my own read. Maybe I like it a bit more after all. Even though that were some superpoor reads from disfo.



##vote Koshi


Tell me more why those two posts cause for immediate suspicion.
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I had a rough thought that the two could be mafia as well, so I wasn't so off on that second post from Koshi

I really don't get why scott chooses this to take the banner up on. It's like random and crappy.

On August 29 2016 10:44 Tumblewood wrote:
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On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.

thank you, I was proud of that read

Wait, WTF???? This:

On August 29 2016 08:36 Tictock wrote:
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On August 29 2016 08:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

waitwaitwait hold on
all Koshi does is talk about himself and then quote a post and call me mafia
and we're scumbuddies?
no way


I was tempted to call you scum as well before this post.

Willing to townlean you for this though.


This is a reason to townread someone? That's a pretty fucking terrible reason to think anyone's town.

That said:
On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.

This is really fucking weird pair to be scumreading.

On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
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On August 29 2016 11:33 scott31337 wrote:
Do you have anything else to add? What do you think of Race Bannon's posts?


I'm not seeing any direct inconistancies in Race Bannon's posts, but the below post is interesting in that it's the only one that actually says anything.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 07:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Tumblewood, Koshi. for me.



It's strange that he finds Tumblewood and Koshi the most suspicious, despite their only affiliation up to that point being the following:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?


On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Tumblewood/Rels

prime suspects.



Race Bannon could be someone to keep an eye on, but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.

This dude is probably just not good at mafia.

Overall:

HF, Koshi and Vivax are probably town. I'll put them there for now at least. I think I'll put Ticktock up there too, but I feel a bit waffly about him. Palmar's in plammar limbo, if for no other reason than he hasn't convince Marv to play. Tumblewood, Race and Disinfo are probably scum; I'm tempted to throw Dane in there too but I kinda think he just doesn't know how to play. Trfel I'll figure out for sure when he makes an actual case, but I'd guess he's just bad town. Scott's sorta weird; like he seems to talk around issues; he's posting a bit more than I remember him usually posting. I sorta kinda like a bit of his stuff, but he avoids actual stuff and just seems to chip in to get other people to talk about stuff and that gives me the heebiejeebies. Rels is uselss as usual.

Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:09 GMT
#312
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 06:10 GMT
#313
also tt is my bro this game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 06:12 GMT
#314
On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?

would love to solve the game.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:17 GMT
#315
Geript, I'll read your stuff in more detail in a bit, but I'm not sure why you put Koshi as town. Help?

Same with Tictock, when I read your posts it seems like you have problems with Tictock's posts so far, but I don't see that listed in the summary.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:18 GMT
#316
On August 29 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:
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On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?

would love to solve the game.
My question wasn't exclusive to disformation, I assumed (wrongly) that he was the only one around. Geript (or anyone else), if you'd like to discuss as well, I would love to

Is there anyone in particular that you feel are interesting/worth discussing first?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 06:25 GMT
#317
On August 29 2016 15:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?

would love to solve the game.
My question wasn't exclusive to disformation, I assumed (wrongly) that he was the only one around. Geript (or anyone else), if you'd like to discuss as well, I would love to

Is there anyone in particular that you feel are interesting/worth discussing first?

not rly tbh. xD
should take a look at rb and danhel, ome to work and kinda skimmed that stuff.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:32 GMT
#318
On August 29 2016 15:25 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 15:18 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 15:09 Trfel wrote:
Hey, disformation, want to solve the game together?

would love to solve the game.
My question wasn't exclusive to disformation, I assumed (wrongly) that he was the only one around. Geript (or anyone else), if you'd like to discuss as well, I would love to

Is there anyone in particular that you feel are interesting/worth discussing first?

not rly tbh. xD
should take a look at rb and danhel, ome to work and kinda skimmed that stuff.
Okay, well I decided to start by rereading everything, but while that's going on, what do you think about Vivax?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 06:34 GMT
#319
On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?
Also, someone help me out, which two people is Koshi referring to as being mafia in this post?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 29 2016 06:38 GMT
#320
On August 29 2016 15:34 Trfel wrote:
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On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:21 Tumblewood wrote:
gonna jump on the "talk about trfel" ship
doesn't make a whole lot of sense that trfel would jokingly claim scum and then shift right into serious mode. well, maybe a little. I still don't like it.
vivax is also probably town for getting pissed at that.

Or he is mafia with him!

2 found?
Also, someone help me out, which two people is Koshi referring to as being mafia in this post?

you and tw imo.

vivi is town imo.
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