EPTI think IAMP is third party but are you sure he has kp?
I would rather take out mafia as they are more likely to have kp, that'd be our only chance.
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I think IAMP is third party but are you sure he has kp? I would rather take out mafia as they are more likely to have kp, that'd be our only chance. | ||
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On August 26 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote: My theory is that mafia gave up Damdred and are trying to close out the game by saving their kp roles. There is no way damdred is so fucking stupid he claims a parity cop check as mafia on accident and then bails out 1 second after he did his claim. Rels mafia? Very likely, he started pushing mafia agenda the closer mafia came to winning this game. But even if he isn't. Mafia needs to equal or have more members than town, true neutral 3p is always counted with mafia, so... killing 3p is actually a good idea. iamp, rels should both die and not Damdred. Damdred is a puppet. Wait, are they? I thought third party neutrals could be counted either way. They can and should mafia side in lylo but can go either direction. | ||
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On August 26 2016 21:13 Koshi wrote: We need to take out mafia with kp. That is sure. iamp is probably not mafia with kp. Otherwise he has both survive a lynch + deliver kp and that is ridiculous. Kitaman didn't do anything obviously anti town yet. I actually thought there was a chance you were mafia during the toy thing because you wanted to kill way more people but when kita said 3 names you agreed instantly and those all flipped town. If he is mafia, does he has kp ... I don't know. He for sure had the extra thing with the elections? Did that happen? Did he do anything else? I don't know. Stutters. I don't know. He claims he had to die during the game? Sounds a very weak excuse why he didn't play after he also didn't die. Could be mafia with kp. Nobody really ever pushed him. Kitaman as mafia plays a very clean game, I realise that's not a slam dunk argument, but the fact we had a lot of afk/scummy townies flip should make you think. But I'll start with stutters first. If you look at Trfel's reads and posts, you will notice that he leaves Stutters (and Rels for that matter) off at all points of his game. Trfel typically ignores his scum teammates. Stutters calls for lynching Damdred, you, and Lunaticman. He gives zero reason for the third.....as opposed to hardly anyone else he's read this game. It came out of nowhere. Also when disformation posted his massive wall, he responds to Kitaman's wifomy post but completely ignores disformations' wall of reads. | ||
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Also pay attention to how Kitaman jabs at Rels for not being active and even calls me out early game for taking Rel's third party claim at face value. He even is all over Rels for being bloody thirsty last cycle with the pushes. On August 17 2016 11:13 kitaman27 wrote: Haven't bothered with filter dives yet, but aside from maybe 1 afk straggler, the mafias are in here. Onegu prplhz Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Dandel Ion Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something. You have a bunch of afks in here/lurky players.....but not Rels. With so many lurky players, he could afford to do this. (And Trfel did the same thing.) | ||
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This is why in my deadline post (or wherever I did), I concluded IAMP was not same alignment and thus I believe his third party claim. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote: I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents. Also, kita please. Here's the post that's replying directly to you. On August 16 2016 23:11 Vivax wrote: List post time: 3p: TW Scummy: 1gu, GB, disfo, (kita) Likely town: Iampurrfection, superbia. Lock town: Koshi, HTS Rest still on the fence. On August 17 2016 06:56 Vivax wrote: List of lurkers to not forget about them, how useless this might seem, at least I have my official notepad: Chezinu FecalFeast (especially weird cause his post seemed to contain knowledge of multiple nukes) Trfel stutters Rels Lunaticman Rels and lun did more than the rest but still feel like under the radar. Scumread on Kita On August 17 2016 07:48 Vivax wrote: Kita is scummy for post timing btw. He just seems very detached from the rest that's going on and then pops in right after the election to only comment on the election and giving generic advice that the leaders have to be transparent. On August 17 2016 11:15 Vivax wrote: [/spoiler]Honestly if you're actually town and legit and want to be effective and credible your list should look like this for now. On August 18 2016 03:06 Vivax wrote: I can't give you a better ranking, but if I exclude people I'd kill for policy: Iamp, GB, you are my tops. Recently Grack, then 1gu, FF, SL look the worst to me. Artanis made it off my suspects even tho he seems to be a jerk for baiting people into becoming paraplegics. Maybe 3p I dnu Now this was his final, but he was looking at everything. But was on Kita for what wasn't afk reasons though. Just another piece of the puzzle. He also - unlike my scum candidates - actually look at Rels/Stutters/Trfel, the spectrum. | ||
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On August 26 2016 21:38 Koshi wrote: and therefore Damdred was sacrificiced because he has no kp. Would be a decent play if Stutters has kp and Damdred fake claims to get Stutters and Kita the towncred for the Damdred mafia flip. My team is Kitaman/Stutters/Damdred/Trfel/Rels And that's what makes the most sense to me. | ||
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I can understand if town as a whole is more comfortable with Rels. But Kitaman is protecting Rels by prioritising you. It is something to think about there. | ||
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On August 26 2016 05:55 kitaman27 wrote: Yes, only two options for today's lynch. Frankly only one (damdred), but koshi would be next in line. Why would I want to lynch Rels today when I already explained why damdred's claim sounds like a bunch of BS? For the record, I still think Rels looks kinda bad, but not to the point where he passes the guy with a nonsense parity check or the guy the shoots our strongest townie and then trolls. Well no. I don't know what size mafia team we are dealing with, do you? I get what you are saying though. I don't have anyone I'm completely confident besides koshi/damdred right now. After today's lynch, I'll look towards who should be the next step. Haven't looked yet. Still at work. Now you're just trying to aggravate me. -_- For clarification above Koshi. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On August 20 2016 01:59 Rels wrote: You "didn't think of that". What a weird way to phrase it. And what a weird thing to assume, when according to disfo, two flipped townies really didn't like you (HF + Vivax). So why would you assume scum shot you ? (he votes IAMP in between) On August 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote: Arta made some good posts though. GB and iamp are more likely to flip scum probably. Not that I care a lot but it's fun to solve the game. On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote: Skynx is super likely scum Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel There's your answer. IAMP and Rels are not the same alignment. | ||
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Now I'm really out. | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:30 kitaman27 wrote: The person giving out bananas seems so incredibly obvious to be mafia considering they haven't come forward and chose to target myself, dandel, and grack. If they were town, they wouldn't have anything to hide. Furthermore, a town player doesn't "go down with the ship". It is also incredibly obvious that I am not scum buddies with the banana vig because he is talking about me as if I'm not there. Now take a look at HTS's relation to the banana shot. Look at how she justifies the banana shot. She shot grack because she didn't want to shoot townie kita or dandel. However, in her scum list from the previous day, SHE LISTED TWELVE DIFFERENT PLAYERS that should be shot ahead of grack. Then when she returns to the thread, SHE NEVER EVEN COMMENTS ON THE QUICKTOPICS FROM GB. A player with 16 pages of filter, is completely uninterested in the most powerful ability that town has received this game. She does know the of the quicktopic's existence though. She knows that I was given a banana and she was either tricked into possibly shooting me or she was lying about how her shot works in the first place. Yet now she does a complete 180 on me from the previous day saying that I'm her #1 scum suspect, while HARD DEFENDING THE GUY WHO JUST SHOT DISFO. I'll take a shot at the post game cred thing and say HTS is mafia. Said it before and I'll say it again. At no time was I in any of those quicktopics. I was only shooting people with only claimed bananas in thread. You claimed in thread, Dandel claimed in thread, Grack claimed in thread. Had Grack not claimed, I'd have held my shot. I am hard defending the guy who shot disformation because: (1) I presented alternative theories as to why he might not be mafia and (2) Koshi has done additional investigation on Rels that comes from a town standpoint. At no point did I disagree that Koshi was anti-town. He was. Additionally, Koshi aside, you are ignoring that zero scumhunting took or had been taking place today, and last cycle in the furnace round, zero scumhunting took place, town lost a full day. I was very blunt about it. Taking Koshi out and refusing to find the other mafia is a copout. That is why I raised the point about having a five player (most likely) mafia team. I showed zero interest in the QTs because I wasn't in any part of them, otherwise I'd have spoken up. Me being uninterested in the quicktopics doesn't make me mafia. There were several others that ignored. And I focused mostly if not entirely on filters for my method of scumhunting. I went traditional this game. If you want to argue some part of what I've done there was mafia indicative, go for it. You spinning that to make it look that way makes you look quite mafia. Not that that changes my read on you but still. | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:44 sicklucker wrote: Can someone fully explain hts role. I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE BANANAS. it sounded so stupid the first time I read it that I ignored it. but I think it solves this game Also this is just my opinion but I think there's much stronger evidence than the QTs. That should be obvious considering town as a whole blundered on the Skynx mislynch. Just saying there. | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:46 sicklucker wrote: so qt 2 4 and 5 are confirmed not mafia. This means 10000% one of tumbleweed or the banana giving role was spewed mafia hell maybe even both if people dont claim those qts. like this is important why wont anyone helpppp me.... oh ya because half of you are mafia right I asked you before why Tumble was mafia, and I don't think you responded. What makes him mafia? | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:32 kitaman27 wrote: That being said, I can't explain the medic save on her that was claimed by dandel. Since we're all vanilla townies at this point, if a town medic protected her, they should come forward. Otherwise, it opens the possibility of a mafia medic. There wasn't any flips that could have been the medic so the medic must still be alive. I was shot and no one claimed a shot on me. Even Skynx claimed a shot on Holyflare (and died for it). | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:49 sicklucker wrote: Honestly the best play with my current data is to lynch and shoot hts/kita. Its are best chance of killing mafia kp and getting another day. one is always mafia I think If kp is used on me, town loses but why both of us over Rels when you see the resistance that Kita is putting up for Rels? I'll look at the QTs one more time, I did not see the connection at all with Tumblewood. | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:52 sicklucker wrote: but how do we know you were shot..? like can you help me here. I like helpful people I have a gun Let me find the quote. I will get it. Dandel claimed both a shot and save. | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:51 sicklucker wrote: WOW THIS WAS FROM THE SECOND DAY QTS. mafia already knew town had acces to qts at this point. They didnt know that on day 1 All I'm trying to say here is to not put too much weight on the QTs. | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote: Ok so I used a power that I thought would be a watcher + tell me what the people targetting actually did That sound too good to be true, it's because it is it was nowhere this good i used it on Hats because i figured either as town shed be shot or as mafia shenanigans would happen around her so i could have caught another scum and her potentially well turns out she got shot* by player 14770601 she also got medic saved* by player 91757281 *This just means the power included that, does not guarantee that there weren't any side or additional effects I included the designation for the medic too cuz you know, how the fuck anyone is ever going to figure that out, idk. seem like random numbers to me. so yeah disappointing compared to my expectations, even worse it was oneshot. but hey kita seems kinda town for going in on Hats start of this day, sicklucker seems scum for buddying up to her like a scummy scum that decided to shoot her just before im sure people willing to do more work could find more like that yes im assuming this was scum kp. i dont actually know i said i'd wait on this but im actually leaving again so w/e lel have some Information. | ||
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