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On August 05 2016 05:01 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 04:58 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:On August 05 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...
##Vote: Silentwarrior No, Lunatic is the lynch Okay since you are here, why is silent town? Why you defended him intentionally or unintentionally all game? Take your time. I'm not sure he's town. But all of these are more likely to flip scum than silentwarrior: Lunatic KSC Moosy As to why silent might be town: I can see his thoughts process in all his posts. Everything he says is logical. If you scumread him for activity, please the only other game he played on this website: he also played a low activity game with long posts. He made a huge case on someone just before end of night. That is something a townie is way more likely to do than scum. I've been posting continuously for last hour or so on why silent is mafia and you say I wanna lycch him for activity...
The only other reason that I see are "silentwarrior voted mderg for no reason". Imagine if he was town in his postion: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg.
Imagine if he was scum: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg.
Basically it's not a reason to scumread silent.
There is also "Rels and silent defend each other but don't have any interaction with each other" wxhich mean you're still seeing this game through the "Rels might be scum" goggles which is fucking idiotic. But makes you town since mafia would KNOW I'm confirmed town and act like it unless they planned to counterclaim.
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On August 05 2016 05:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 05:01 Skynx wrote:On August 05 2016 04:58 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:On August 05 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...
##Vote: Silentwarrior No, Lunatic is the lynch Okay since you are here, why is silent town? Why you defended him intentionally or unintentionally all game? Take your time. I'm not sure he's town. But all of these are more likely to flip scum than silentwarrior: Lunatic KSC Moosy As to why silent might be town: I can see his thoughts process in all his posts. Everything he says is logical. If you scumread him for activity, please the only other game he played on this website: he also played a low activity game with long posts. He made a huge case on someone just before end of night. That is something a townie is way more likely to do than scum. I've been posting continuously for last hour or so on why silent is mafia and you say I wanna lycch him for activity... The only other reason that I see are "silentwarrior voted mderg for no reason". Imagine if he was town in his postion: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg. Imagine if he was scum: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg. Basically it's not a reason to scumread silent. There is also "Rels and silent defend each other but don't have any interaction with each other" wxhich mean you're still seeing this game through the "Rels might be scum" goggles which is fucking idiotic. But makes you town since mafia would KNOW I'm confirmed town and act like it unless they planned to counterclaim.
You post stuff and defend. It was a policy lynch with 2 hours to go. He was here, he just didn't do it.
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On August 05 2016 05:11 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 05:09 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 05:01 Skynx wrote:On August 05 2016 04:58 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 04:50 Skynx wrote:On August 05 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 04:42 Skynx wrote:
Guys Lunatic is not the lynch here...
##Vote: Silentwarrior No, Lunatic is the lynch Okay since you are here, why is silent town? Why you defended him intentionally or unintentionally all game? Take your time. I'm not sure he's town. But all of these are more likely to flip scum than silentwarrior: Lunatic KSC Moosy As to why silent might be town: I can see his thoughts process in all his posts. Everything he says is logical. If you scumread him for activity, please the only other game he played on this website: he also played a low activity game with long posts. He made a huge case on someone just before end of night. That is something a townie is way more likely to do than scum. I've been posting continuously for last hour or so on why silent is mafia and you say I wanna lycch him for activity... The only other reason that I see are "silentwarrior voted mderg for no reason". Imagine if he was town in his postion: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg. Imagine if he was scum: vote mderg and dion't get lynched; or don't vote mderg and get lynched. He would vote mderg. Basically it's not a reason to scumread silent. There is also "Rels and silent defend each other but don't have any interaction with each other" wxhich mean you're still seeing this game through the "Rels might be scum" goggles which is fucking idiotic. But makes you town since mafia would KNOW I'm confirmed town and act like it unless they planned to counterclaim. You post stuff and defend. It was a policy lynch with 2 hours to go. He was here, he just didn't do it.
I don't understand what you are saying
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Well, I dunno how better i can explain without switching to french. You're never going to be convinced as far as I'm concerned.
Others, read 39-40. Read silent filter.
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Well, you didn't erxplain anything. I want to undersatnd what you are saying.
"You post stuff and defend." => I came back before deadline to push mderg and defend silent ?
"It was a policy lynch with 2 hours to go. He was here, he just didn't do it." => If he was town he would have pushed mderg by himself ?
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Silent had to vote MDerg reguardless of alignment. Him voting on mderg is NAI.
See simple
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Ahwell we'll go your way guys, maybe I'm too tunnelled again.
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Lemme ask this tho:
If Luna flips red what happens? If Luna flips green what happens?
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On August 05 2016 05:22 Skynx wrote:
Ahwell we'll go your way guys, maybe I'm too tunnelled again.
Just type the damn words. Discuss with me please.
silent voting mderg to survive is not scum indicative. Do you have another reason to scumread him ?
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On August 05 2016 05:24 Skynx wrote:
Lemme ask this tho:
If Luna flips red what happens? If Luna flips green what happens?
A) Lynch Scott
B) Lynch Scott
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On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Having read your post, I find it highly interesting that you get me into a connection with Lunatic, given that I voted him D1 and didnt stop to bring him up to people's conciousness again and again.
Actually it wasn't anything to do with Lunatic.
It was a combination of your constantly defending scott (who has actually done very little as far as I'm concerned and the stuff he has done I'm not a huge fan of) and this post here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?page=19#364
On August 02 2016 03:39 Skynx wrote:
This Grack vs btdt/stutters is very unlikely tvtt, please keep going.
I still think that statement holds up. But Grack flipped town and stutters flipped down, which leaves the scum stirring the pot in that fight to be you. I also hadn't actually explicitly looked at your filter at that point; having glanced through it now to reply to this post of yours yes, I notice you're attacking Lunatic a bunch. My problem now is I honestly think if Lunatic flips red then scott flips red. And if scott flips red then you flip red. Which leaves me in a quandary now; because I'm not sure that if Lunatic flips red then you flip red.
However your defensiveness here is absolutely fascinating. Which is making me wonder if you've just solved the game for me. Lunatic wasn't getting lynched day one with the way it was going so you could start attacking him to distance. Now that everyone's reads are shaken up by the Grack mislynch then he might actually get lynched, but your last read thing didn't even comment on the ongoing discussion. Instead it brought up J Roc. Leaving yourself free to set up a secondary wagon if you want.
Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why?
Because I'd been townreading him based on tone all game. I explicitly stated that in my post ("My previous reads were largely based on how I generally 'felt' about where Lunatic was coming from and the tone of his posts, which was a rather haphazard town."). Did you miss that part?
Problem is his tone and his arguments don't match up.
Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from.
Absolutely disagree. scott's filter is poor and he's being super, super lazy. He's got literally like a page and a half filter. That is NOT 'fairly active'. And he's pushed nobody.
Actually. I'm going to 'stream of consciousness' his filter after catching up I think. Its super short.
I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative.
Okay now this is super, super weird on your part. My current PoE would be Lunatic > Scott. I made that clear in my last post. Why am I bussing BOTH of my scummates, one of whom has a wagon on them and one of whom is largely being overlooked?
More to the point you've been townreading scott for ages now, for what I think are crappy reasons. But suddenly he's scum if I'm scum?
Going full paranoia here...I know my alignment. However nobody has to believe my alignment or my reads to work through this hypothetical scenario that you're potentially setting up:
- Lunatic gets lynched. Flips scum.
- You argue (assumed successfully) that this makes me scum because I was bussing.
- I get lynched. I flip town (again, you don't have to believe me, just take it in this example).
- You then argue that this means scott couldn't possibly be scum because of what you said in this post here, that scott can only be scum if I'm scum.
- scum!scott gets towned all nice and pretty and scum wins the game because nobody wants to lynch him.
Sorry, no. This is rubbish. I don't care if people think I'm scum, please feel free to lynch me D3 (we can afford one more mislynch I think). But if you do then the PoE should probably be BTDT and scott after it. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO BTDT'S ARGUMENTS HERE, SCOTT ABSOLUTELY CAN BE SCUM IF I FLIP TOWN.
I'm more scared about you pulling off this strategy than I am about being lynched to be honest because its very clever deception by association...
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Day 2 vote count
Lunaticman (6): Rels, slientwarrior, beentheredonethat, -celestial-, scott31337, Skynx
Scott31337 (1): J Roc
SlientWarrior (0):: Skynx
Not voting (3): MoosyDoosy,, lunaticman, KelsierSC
Currently Lunaticman is set to be lynched.
The deadline is Thursday, Aug 04 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to vote!
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On August 05 2016 03:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Celestial, was there actually a post where Lunatic defended btdt?
That's how I read this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?page=13#251
On August 01 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 04:27 J Roc wrote:On August 01 2016 02:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
Kill Race Bannon before the replacement. Best kill so far. A player that has already stirred so much chaos and made himself unreadable will never be able to fully establish himself as town thus he should be killed asap. Find it interesting that he wants to lynch the spot for reasons other than policy. I think he trying to say the same thing I was that if he is town there is no way to trust his reads? because it was so filled with gibberish. But that is moot now anyway. And also calling something a "policy lynch" is extremly lazy isn't it better to say why you want to kill them? He was confusing for example?
I read this as trying to make BTDT's absolutely godawful early post sound better. Followed by dismissing the whole thing as irrelevant now.
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On August 05 2016 05:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 05:22 Skynx wrote:
Ahwell we'll go your way guys, maybe I'm too tunnelled again. Just type the damn words. Discuss with me please. silent voting mderg to survive is not scum indicative. Do you have another reason to scumread him ?
I think it is scum indicative, I said why, you said you don't understand to the exact reason i stated.
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Haven't read game. Might do it later
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On August 05 2016 05:24 Skynx wrote:
Lemme ask this tho:
If Luna flips red what happens? If Luna flips green what happens?
Not much for me. Apart from confirming town: silent & Celestial are both super likely town if Lunatic flips scum, both for making a huge case on him, silent before it was cool to scumread him, Celestial at a time when it looked like Lunatic was going to get lynched for sure (like right now). These are way less strong if Lunatic flips town, especially the silent case during the night.
All the poeple that were passive about that Lunatic lynch are potential partner if Lunatic flips scum. BTDT in particular, that already talked about potential implication of Lunatic being mafia when I have no idea why he's voting Lunatic in the first place.
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On August 05 2016 03:16 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 02:55 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from.
I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative. I don't get how scott goes from "in my town circle" to "in my Lunatic's likely partners". Thats why I said highly associative. If lunatic plus celestial are scum, I can see Scott scum. Last sentence of my post says "only reason to put him on that List", thought that makes my stance clear.
This is garbage as above.
DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THIS. SCOTT CAN STILL BE SCUM EVEN IF I FLIP TOWN.
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On August 05 2016 05:30 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 05:24 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 05:22 Skynx wrote:
Ahwell we'll go your way guys, maybe I'm too tunnelled again. Just type the damn words. Discuss with me please. silent voting mderg to survive is not scum indicative. Do you have another reason to scumread him ? I think it is scum indicative, I said why, you said you don't understand to the exact reason i stated.
silent wanted to lynch stutters. He had a few posts pushing this stutters lynch. The lynch was forced to be between him and mderg. He voted mderg by default. Him voting mderg is not alignment indicative because it's better to not get lynched as either alignment.
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Celest who you wanna lynch? Lunatic won't flip scum.
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On August 05 2016 05:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Haven't read game. Might do it later
TBF I don't see the game finishing without you being lynched at some point. I should have vigged you.
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