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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 11:54 GMT
#2267
I really gotta go now, I didn't eat yet and I have a meeting in 7 minutes so I gotta run to buy a sandwich. See you in a few hours!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:01 GMT
#2335
On July 25 2016 06:46 sicklucker wrote:
ok so I think dc is definitely scum. he played pretty much the same as me to be honest. hard defended tumble. The only difference is hes a first time mafia if he is. which means he might be terrible and risk his entire game on tumbleweed something I wouldnt do.

Also I think the lynch pools small and I certainly dont want to get lynched. kruppe was right here hes going to flip mafia

What. So the thing that makes you confirmed town is also the thing that makes DC scum ?
It doesn't make sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:06 GMT
#2337
On July 26 2016 02:03 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 02:01 Rels wrote:
On July 25 2016 06:46 sicklucker wrote:
ok so I think dc is definitely scum. he played pretty much the same as me to be honest. hard defended tumble. The only difference is hes a first time mafia if he is. which means he might be terrible and risk his entire game on tumbleweed something I wouldnt do.

Also I think the lynch pools small and I certainly dont want to get lynched. kruppe was right here hes going to flip mafia

What. So the thing that makes you confirmed town is also the thing that makes DC scum ?
It doesn't make sense


Well I'm also thinking about the fact that the mafia has been using me as click bait. And I also assume I'm town.

Can someone give me a link that explains all the roles in detail that are possible in the game? But I can't see to find it.

You asked this same question early game already, don't you remember ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:09 GMT
#2338
I'm caught up.
SL is scum.
##Vote sicklucker
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:12 GMT
#2340
On July 20 2016 20:34 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.

"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker

cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker

Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"

I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.

Jailkeeper protects you from nk but also roleblocks you
gf turns green for cop checks
parity cop checks two persons over two cycles, end of second cycle he recieves "same, different or no-result"
Strongarm makes nk piercing protections

On July 20 2016 20:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.

"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker

cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker

Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"

I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.

Jailkeeper protects a person each night, like a doctor. The difference is that he also roleblocks his target. If his target is a cop for example, the cop will be protected but won't be able to check someone that night. If the jailkeeper target is a mafia killing someone, his target won't be able to carry the kill (IE no mafia kill will happen).

Strongarm: during the night, the mafia can kill one person. If their target is protected, the kill won't happen. BUT the strongarm can make it so that the kill will bypass protection.

Godfather: a cop can check a person each night to learn his alignment: town or mafia. A godfather will return "town" to a cop acheck.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:19 GMT
#2343
On July 26 2016 02:16 Lunaticman wrote:
So might this be the reason Kruppe cleared SL?

"If the jailkeeper target is a mafia killing someone, his target won't be able to carry the kill (IE no mafia kill will happen"

I wish he just said who he targeted in plain text, can someone figure that out since if he targeted a mafia there would not have been a nk?

Yes if he targeted the mafia carrying the kill there would not have been a NK. Only him though. If he targeted a mafia that was not carrying the kill, there would have been a NK anyway.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:21 GMT
#2344
Day recaps colored with flips

Please use it if you wanna check something. I corrected the mistakes I spoted on the official votecounts.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (1): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, EmperorChampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, Sickluker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(1):Skynx
Lunaticman(1): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, Sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


Let's see what can be said about the votes.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:33 GMT
#2347
These votecounts are missing the timing actually. It's hard to deduce anything without that.
I didn't realize both DC and Skynx wasted their votes, it's worth to check why.
EC's hammer is not alignment indicative as said before because his vote didn't matter, but he's pretty townie on his own.
We can see Tumble trying to save himself by switching off me and to Grac.
I thought it was going to be more insightful than that =X
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:35 GMT
#2348
On July 26 2016 02:21 Koshi wrote:
He said he targeted TW. And he was probably RB'ed.

I missed this somehow.
RB and JK are usually applies simultaneously though so him being RB doesn't matter.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:38 GMT
#2352
On July 24 2016 06:10 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm lynching one of Koshi or Luna today. Tell me why they are town and try to convince yourself to what you're saying.

13 pages of filter is not a parameter in argument, google raynpelikoneet.


I'm changing my vote to Koshi.

I believe in you Skynx.

## unvote
##vote Koshi


I'll be back after the silent night.

DC had to go 50 minutes before EOD2.

Skynx actually voted Grac before EOD2, the official votecount still count him on both Grac on himself though. But he was on Grac at deadline.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:42 GMT
#2354
On July 26 2016 02:38 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 02:33 Rels wrote:
These votecounts are missing the timing actually. It's hard to deduce anything without that.
I didn't realize both DC and Skynx wasted their votes, it's worth to check why.
EC's hammer is not alignment indicative as said before because his vote didn't matter, but he's pretty townie on his own.
We can see Tumble trying to save himself by switching off me and to Grac.
I thought it was going to be more insightful than that =X


If we assume EC is towny, Skynx is really scummy.

Do we think there are 2 mafia on the grac lynch?

If so there should be another mafia between Skynx and SL.

The only reason I'm holding a bit back on SL is because of kruppes statements. It is the same reason I'm trusting you rels.


Mafia usually spreads out so I would be surprised if 3 scum were on the Grac lynch. 2 is very possible.
What did Kruppe say about SL ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:58 GMT
#2362
On July 26 2016 02:55 Skynx wrote:
I'm here folks. Will be here for next few hours as well.

Nice transition, I'm going out soon ^^ but I'll be phoneposting.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 08:18 GMT
#2388
wtf
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 08:20 GMT
#2390
Can we get a fucking real flip because I have no fucking idea what Koshi was.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 08:22 GMT
#2392
On the other hand.
prp. Please explain your hammer ASAP. There is a fucking reason as to why hammer is bad and it was stated over and over since the game start.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 08:48 GMT
#2404
On July 26 2016 17:39 Skynx wrote:
You're all already so bad Lunatic/DCW survived yesterday. I give up all hope if we lynch someone else today.

We have time. First I want to hear how prp explains that hammer. Second I wanna know if Koshi really died and what he flipped.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 16:31 GMT
#2517
yo I finished working, gonna catch up before going home.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 16:32 GMT
#2518
so Koshi was cop. That means he had two checks during D3. It should be possible to discover what they were reading his filter.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 16:38 GMT
#2519
On July 26 2016 23:07 emperorchampion wrote:
To be clear: let's not hammer until end of day. Unfortunately, this is going to be pretty difficult, since majority is 4, and there are 2 scum. That means 2 votes on someone is potential hammer so we should be a bit careful here.

100%
Hammering is fucking stupid. That is why prp needs to explain exactly why he hammered yesterday.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 26 2016 16:40 GMT
#2521
On July 26 2016 23:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Coloring vote counts turns out to be way harder to do than I ever knew, so I'm just going to go with a summary.

I don't have time to do that now, but I will do it tonight at some point. Vote analysis is so much easier with colored flips.
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