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On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now  Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor?
The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us.
The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me.
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On July 21 2016 22:48 Koshi wrote:The reason why I think at least 2 mafia are within my list. (the reasoning is weak, but they connect like this atm) Also Palmar, Rels, Kruppe are left in my PoE list of let's say 6 people if I would really make one. ↓It was weird that Palmar had him in his scumlist. Why wasn't Kruppe null? He looked pretty null. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game. ↓ The 2 calm envelopes are sent to the 2 people who everybody are townreading. Really boring. The 2 hot envelopes are sent to me and Rels. I am not mafia. And mafia likes to add at least 1 mafia. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.
Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!
Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!
Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?
Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)
Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn! ↓Weird logic. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.
Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!
Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!
Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?
Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)
Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn! Kruppe posting 15 minutes after being called out by Palmar is suspicious.
Actually if we assume you are town, your logic makes sense. I'll reread Rels posts.
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On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here?
The biggest difference is you can read peoples reactions and body language while playing, the tone of their voice, palliation of their pupils, sweat on their forehead etc.
Yes you are getting closer, I would say that there is a high probabilty that EC is a scum if Palmer is that. Although I think EC is town.
EC is a good target for investigator.
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On July 21 2016 22:58 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I actually demand to know what you are referencing "his style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts" why don't you enlighten me? And I think I have a pretty good handle on the game atm, I'll follow my instinct until I am proven wrong. I am actually quite easy to convince if you bring out good arguments. I have not done a single action without justifying it, compared to many of the other players. And also, everyone gets lynched at some point. It is only a matter on how you go out that you can choose. There you go: Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:05 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 22:54 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:31 Grackaroni wrote:On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw  . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia? A wild Palmar appears. I'm in the game, right? is this a famous palmar mafia game?? Yes, how can you not know if you are in the game? Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate?  sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on? Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:38 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:32 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:23 Skynx wrote:Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town? A change in behaviour when you have an established meta which has been called is only advantagous to change when you have a new role. This should mean he is either blue or green? (since he was red last game?) No. It should mean he can be happy with bad townies making stupid lynches but we can't instantly scumread him for that cuz he said he's gona be calm. I still think the change in behaviour indicates he is a townie for now. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:52 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I didn't even have an argument there. That was an opinion on how and why his scum behavior has been generic thats it, nothingn else. Now what made you think he's scum? Because you specified he has polarised his playstyle which indicitated he is trying "to hard" from his previous playstyles... This is purely a meta read which I agree with if it is true. Especially the last one. You are ready to blindly follow my meta statement on emperor to conclude he is scum and if that is wrong I must be mafia? Furthermore, why are you so ready on reading Palmar as mafia when you are so ready to jump on any meta statemet?
The way he reacted, read the posts and I hope you will see why.
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On July 21 2016 23:02 Koshi wrote:
Lunaticman
Stop annoying this man. Work with him. Not against him.
You will see he is town if you work with him.
Stop your tunnels.
This is what I do best...
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On July 21 2016 22:58 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:52 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:47 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 22:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:
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No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?
There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I actually demand to know what you are referencing "his style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts" why don't you enlighten me? And I think I have a pretty good handle on the game atm, I'll follow my instinct until I am proven wrong. I am actually quite easy to convince if you bring out good arguments. I have not done a single action without justifying it, compared to many of the other players. And also, everyone gets lynched at some point. It is only a matter on how you go out that you can choose. Who are the players that have done something without justification in your mind? I would say most of the votes are based nothing atm besides mine. Also there has been a lot of undermining of people which is a typical Master suppression technique favored among mafia. So it's pretty much just votes that you're talking about being unjustified? Also what is this about the "Master suppression" technique, if you see something lets discuss it and see where it heads.
Well for example the subtle differences when a players calls another player bad at playing, or saying they are inexperienced. These are ways to lower their social status which in turn devalues what people think about what you are saying.
Lunaticman must be a noob townie because I dont agree with him.
I could go on but I think you understand what I mean.
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On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today.
I wont stop until someone gives me a better target.
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I still don't know why this happend:
nnn_thekushmountains (2): Grackaroni, Palmar
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On July 21 2016 23:14 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
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It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. I wont stop until someone gives me a better target. Can you give me your full opinion on this guy? Even if he is town. Can you tell me why? DCWasabi
I have him in null atm, these are the notes I have on him:
2) DCWasabi
I really liked post 465, shows he is analyzing the situation and I concur with his assesment (TvT).
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On July 21 2016 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:13 Skynx wrote:
Too many at once.
To answer most at once; Lunatic is probably town and his lynch will get us nowhere if flipped green. I find that fair but he did some scummy things from almost any perspective which I've explained over course of last 5 or so pages.
Koshi: 7 pages of filter doesn't make anyone town necessarily. rayn prolly had a 15 page filter in a 7 player game on D2, he was gf.
However all that being said I'm letting Lunatic case sit for a while until others state their opinions. I'm also beyond lost.
As a general rule I'd recommend not voting for people who are probably town.
Well you can trick mafia to start trains that way for example. It is a tool, a big tool and you need to use it.
Unless you are leaving little time left on the clock it is never a bad thing to vote to get responses.
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On July 21 2016 23:15 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
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It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels. Koshi I understand that you want to push teams this game and not individual players, but your links between the team mates are very tenuous. Personally, I find that rels has looked pretty towny so far. The bit where you say that scum will include 1 other scum is an interesting point that I completely agree with, but your scum conclusion of kruppe seems to be based off of Palmar's post. As you said, kruppe is null (I suppose before his reads post, which may have changed things). So I agree with a lot of the points that you've made, and I do think that Palmar's reads list was pretty shoddy. However, especially the rels part feels like a huge stretch.
This is where you can find gold though, on day one it is almost impossible but in the endagame this is where the mafia is exposed.
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I think Koshi right now might be the best investigator target followed by EC.
He has really backed me in the thread the last few pages but I don't know if that is good or bad. If he is scum I will never see it.
I hope Palmer goes online soon and hardclaims a role.
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On July 21 2016 23:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
So for people to actually lynch:
kruppe, sl, rels
Anyone else? This is actually a very good list. I wonder if Palmar voted Kush after or before this list. Because if it is after this list... Bad news!
Isnt that basically the same list as yours?
intresting...
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On July 21 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:13 Skynx wrote:
Too many at once.
To answer most at once; Lunatic is probably town and his lynch will get us nowhere if flipped green. I find that fair but he did some scummy things from almost any perspective which I've explained over course of last 5 or so pages.
Koshi: 7 pages of filter doesn't make anyone town necessarily. rayn prolly had a 15 page filter in a 7 player game on D2, he was gf.
However all that being said I'm letting Lunatic case sit for a while until others state their opinions. I'm also beyond lost.
As a general rule I'd recommend not voting for people who are probably town. I adressed it earlier, Lunatic will give it away if he's scum one way or another. Leaving him for later I'm fine with but that means we need to find a better lynch target. While 7 pages of filter is nice, this whole conversation took us like 5 pages and we are losing focus. So leaving him alive is not productive from my pow, especially considering he's still tunneling Palmar.
Only because you keep pestering me with questions.
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On July 21 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:
I think Koshi right now might be the best investigator target followed by EC.
He has really backed me in the thread the last few pages but I don't know if that is good or bad. If he is scum I will never see it.
I hope Palmer goes online soon and hardclaims a role. We don't claim roles...
Why is that a rule or something?
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It just feels like the votes are not adding up to what ppl are talking about.
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On July 21 2016 23:48 emperorchampion wrote:The issue is that I have no idea who scum could be
Isn't it hard playing as town?
I think Koshi made some good points. But I dont want Palmer to walk especially since he hasn't been active.
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I also feel like Tumble is contributing a lot, please elaborate on your scum reads.
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And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?
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On July 21 2016 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote:
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains? I'm sure Grackaroni and Palmar can
What is your read on nnn_thekushmountains?
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