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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 11:44 GMT
#578
On July 21 2016 11:44 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think anything made grack or the two new guys at the start of the game town. thats all I feel like reading now


Are you saying someone is a role? Please be more specific, and good way to meet post count, one sentence per post.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 11:45 GMT
#579
On July 21 2016 11:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 22:04 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 20 2016 22:02 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2016 19:44 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 20 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:
On July 20 2016 19:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 20 2016 19:36 Rels wrote:
www.quicktopic.com
Reasons
I have them


This post is beyond me, are you saying someone is cheating?

No.
How much IRL mafia did you play ?



About 20 games, with around 8-16 players per game. We usually only played with the standard roles with some flavour such as Medic and Sheriff. But basically vanila mafia. Each game might have lasted around 8 hours per playthrough.

I would consider myself an very vocal player but also guilable. Many games have been one or lost because of people spending to much time analyzing my actions. As I always say to myself the silent mafia is the worst mafia...

but I digress since this seems very different.


8 hour irl mafia game, oh god I would die. Half the people in the room must have hated each other by the end


Yes it is quite intense and I love the shit out of it. I would play it everyday if I could. The shocks. Someone could probably earn a living by recording mafia games and posting them online.


ya its called video mafia on twitch


I did not know this, thanks will look at it today!
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 11:51 GMT
#582
On July 21 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
So p19 it kicks off with Tumble case.

While it's an ok case, there is nothing new in it. Tumble basically just repeats and compiles what he's found scummy about emperor over span of past few pages. Main point being posting for sake of posting.

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread

This however is some giveaway. Now his push turns into a meta push. I mean if you feel like you made enough convincing in your case why write this? There are lot of players who are unfamiliar with emp playstyle and I don't actually agree he fits his scum meta so far.
Actually I'm sure Koshi can figure out why emperor is not scum so far cuz we discussed this deeply in coach chat.


This is the post that made me originally vote for him, so that is intresting that you came to the same conclusion.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:03 GMT
#588
Another one of my current lists:

100% Green Town
4) Lunaticman

Town read so far:
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
2) DCWasabi
10) Tumblewood
6) Rels
8) Gracaroni

Nullread:
11) Kruppe the eel
9) nnn_thekushmountains
1) Prplhz

Scummy:
13) Palmar
7) sicklucker
12) Koshi


I am extremly happy with the way the game has progressed, there is a lot of content to use for day 2.



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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:32 GMT
#591
On July 21 2016 21:18 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 21:03 Lunaticman wrote:
Another one of my current lists:

100% Green Town
4) Lunaticman

Town read so far:
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
2) DCWasabi
10) Tumblewood
6) Rels
8) Gracaroni

Nullread:
11) Kruppe the eel
9) nnn_thekushmountains
1) Prplhz

Scummy:
13) Palmar
7) sicklucker
12) Koshi


I am extremly happy with the way the game has progressed, there is a lot of content to use for day 2.




What's the difference between Palmar and kush? They played almost exactly the same so far and you questioned both of their reads being vague/trolly/lazy. They should have been same category for you.
Also why is Grack town?


Gracaroni
Post #468 is really good reasoning, this effort seems townish, I like his read.
The meta call on Kushm4sta is intresting
doesnt want to lynch EC
Another good post #510
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:34 GMT
#592
On July 21 2016 21:18 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 21:03 Lunaticman wrote:
Another one of my current lists:

100% Green Town
4) Lunaticman

Town read so far:
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
2) DCWasabi
10) Tumblewood
6) Rels
8) Gracaroni

Nullread:
11) Kruppe the eel
9) nnn_thekushmountains
1) Prplhz

Scummy:
13) Palmar
7) sicklucker
12) Koshi


I am extremly happy with the way the game has progressed, there is a lot of content to use for day 2.




What's the difference between Palmar and kush? They played almost exactly the same so far and you questioned both of their reads being vague/trolly/lazy. They should have been same category for you.
Also why is Grack town?


Also the reasons for Palmer are obvious in my opinion if you followed the thread. Kushi has just had very a very dodgy activity. Also Tumblewood suspects him.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:35 GMT
#593
Also if Palmer turns red, there is a good chance EC is red too.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:40 GMT
#595
On July 21 2016 21:37 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 04:32 Palmar wrote:
On July 21 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.

Could it be possible both of them are scum?

It feels like such a rookie misstake to make.

I admit, am rookie.


I didnt know this, it might change my opinion in your actions so far.

Well for instance, Palmar has most games (some 90-ish?) under his belt here. Does that change your opinions?


Well he claimed to be a beginner so that just puts it over the top if it is true.

I see no reason why he shouldn't be lynched day 1.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:45 GMT
#597
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 12:50 GMT
#598
And what are the votes from Palmar and Grackaroni based on?
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:02 GMT
#601
On July 21 2016 22:00 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 20:51 Rels wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:39 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:37 Palmar wrote:
jesus 20 pages

All super important content make sure to catchup 1 by 1

no actually just fuck it, if people are going to revert to the stupid spamming style of playing I'm not even gonna bother trying.

http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/dnZQAJvqMFi4

gg

On July 21 2016 03:44 Skynx wrote:
No fking way is that legit?

Instant townread.
Knowing Skynx doesn't have access to quicktopic, it's very likely this comment is not a joke. So it's either a town being mad or a scum faking it. The simpler explanation is often the right one.


Great point!


Wait I dont get this, wasnt this a rick roll post to troll?
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:06 GMT
#604
On July 21 2016 22:01 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

Well, you are way too tunneled on one idea then. emperor was engaging nicely at the time, under some pressure but he has certainly seen worse. He knows how to act in high pressure situations.
If palmar is his teammate, he's under no pressure to defend him either.
If palmar is town, he's just scumreading you for whatever reason cuz he's trolling.


I'm sorry if I don't take your word for it. Palmer still made some crucial mistakes and nothing you just said has convinced me otherwise.

I
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:08 GMT
#605
On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?


No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?

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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:11 GMT
#607
On July 21 2016 22:09 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 21:35 Lunaticman wrote:
Also if Palmer turns red, there is a good chance EC is red too.


If you can explain this in a way that makes perfect sense, then I have a 100% town read on palmar


Tbh I already did state my reasoning multiple times.

But i don't see how it turns him into a townie from your perspective.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:26 GMT
#616
On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?


No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?


There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now


Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing.

It also an effective way to trap people. Example:

I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways.

What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on?

HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking.

etc.

Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:28 GMT
#617
On July 21 2016 22:20 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:06 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:01 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

Well, you are way too tunneled on one idea then. emperor was engaging nicely at the time, under some pressure but he has certainly seen worse. He knows how to act in high pressure situations.
If palmar is his teammate, he's under no pressure to defend him either.
If palmar is town, he's just scumreading you for whatever reason cuz he's trolling.


I'm sorry if I don't take your word for it. Palmer still made some crucial mistakes and nothing you just said has convinced me otherwise.

I

Well, good luck on your Palmar lynch.


All you gave me was some vauge meta reads on why it doesn't work. And that he is to experienced to make rookie mistakes while he claimed noob.

I'm actually laughing right now, thanks!
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:37 GMT
#623
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.

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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:45 GMT
#628
On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?


No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?


There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now


Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing.

It also an effective way to trap people. Example:

I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways.

What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on?

HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking.

etc.

Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.

Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.

7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do?

If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.

His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point.
My only concern is he's prolly town.


I actually demand to know what you are referencing "his style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts" why don't you enlighten me?

And I think I have a pretty good handle on the game atm, I'll follow my instinct until I am proven wrong. I am actually quite easy to convince if you bring out good arguments. I have not done a single action without justifying it, compared to many of the other players.

And also, everyone gets lynched at some point. It is only a matter on how you go out that you can choose.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:50 GMT
#634
On July 21 2016 22:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.


I agree Palmar might be mafia. And last times I said Palmar was mafia he actually was mafia and I got night killed and people didn't lynch him. So I am glad you are in the game.


I am currently thinking about Kruppe as well. What is your opinion?


My current scumteam:

Palmar/Kruppe/Rels


Tbh, the only one I feel bad atm is Palmar, I'd have to reread kruppe and rels before making a new statement.
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:52 GMT
#636
On July 21 2016 22:47 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?


No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?


There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now


Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing.

It also an effective way to trap people. Example:

I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways.

What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on?

HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking.

etc.

Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.

Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.

7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do?

If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.

His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point.
My only concern is he's prolly town.


I actually demand to know what you are referencing "his style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts" why don't you enlighten me?

And I think I have a pretty good handle on the game atm, I'll follow my instinct until I am proven wrong. I am actually quite easy to convince if you bring out good arguments. I have not done a single action without justifying it, compared to many of the other players.

And also, everyone gets lynched at some point. It is only a matter on how you go out that you can choose.


Who are the players that have done something without justification in your mind?


I would say most of the votes are based nothing atm besides mine. Also there has been a lot of undermining of people which is a typical Master suppression technique favored among mafia.
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