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To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.
Could it be possible both of them are scum?
It feels like such a rookie misstake to make.
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On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.
Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!
Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!
Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?
Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)
Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn!
This is really something else, rofl...
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On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game.
TBH, I have no idea how to even interpret (spelling?!?) his antics.
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On July 21 2016 04:32 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:22 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that. EC, tell me who would you vote for and why? Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing. Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target. Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you. Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future. Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually. No but the timing is awful. In my mind your digging a deeper hole you should just have waited with that point. In IRL mafia where I play that would have been a fatal misstake. Waited with which point? I'm a little confused, you think that if someone makes a case against you can't be suspicious of them?
No of course you can, but the weakest form of defense is retaliation. I've seen it to many times, it doesnt matter if you are town or scum it is the best way to get lynched. Of course this meta might be different but in my book it is a warning flag.
If I didnt already think you were town I would go all in on getting you lynched because of the timing.
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On July 21 2016 04:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.
Could it be possible both of them are scum?
It feels like such a rookie misstake to make. I admit, am rookie.
I didnt know this, it might change my opinion in your actions so far.
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On July 21 2016 04:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:32 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:22 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that. EC, tell me who would you vote for and why? Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing. Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target. Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you. Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future. Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually. No but the timing is awful. In my mind your digging a deeper hole you should just have waited with that point. In IRL mafia where I play that would have been a fatal misstake. Waited with which point? I'm a little confused, you think that if someone makes a case against you can't be suspicious of them? It's rock solid logic, mafia doesn't need to find mafia so they don't make cases so everyone that makes a case is 100% town all the time.
Good point, it however is usually made by rookie mafia which I believe EC not to be if he is one?
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On July 21 2016 04:35 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game. TBH, I have no idea how to even interpret (spelling?!?) his antics. I think you must look very deep at the problem. Has he found mafia? No Thus he is mafia. QED
Yes but if he is town, we wasted so much time on his antics. I dont know it just feels super wierd.
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On July 21 2016 04:35 Palmar wrote:
Also, I think Kush is very likely to be scum this game.
Again, based on extensive research.
I am very intrested in this read, care to elaborate?
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On July 21 2016 04:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:40 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:35 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:34 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game. TBH, I have no idea how to even interpret (spelling?!?) his antics. I think you must look very deep at the problem. Has he found mafia? No Thus he is mafia. QED Yes but if he is town, we wasted so much time on his antics. I dont know it just feels super wierd. But I wrote QED that means I'm right because it's proof....
What does QED mean?
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On July 21 2016 04:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:38 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:34 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:32 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:22 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:
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EC, tell me who would you vote for and why? Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing. Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target. Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you. Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future. Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually. No but the timing is awful. In my mind your digging a deeper hole you should just have waited with that point. In IRL mafia where I play that would have been a fatal misstake. Waited with which point? I'm a little confused, you think that if someone makes a case against you can't be suspicious of them? It's rock solid logic, mafia doesn't need to find mafia so they don't make cases so everyone that makes a case is 100% town all the time. Good point, it however is usually made by rookie mafia which I believe EC not to be if he is one? I appreciate it when I make good points and people acknowledge how logical and smart I am.
I want you to explain your reasoning so far for your extensive read.
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On July 21 2016 04:45 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:55 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:51 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:47 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;
Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz
There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,
A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar
The rest are blanks for me.
DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains
How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet. They should be null. What makes you think that they are scummy? They havent posted yet. That doesn't mean they are Mafia, it just means they are inactive. We could Policy Lynch for inactivity, or we can Lynch somebody we actually are reading as mafia. If they don't get active before the deadline, then host action will take place based on OP. If they wait till the deadline, then post low-content / meaningless things, then we can lynch them on D2 if we think they are Mafia lurking in the shadows. We do want them to be more active, but we don't want to derail the thread throwing darts at empty space. No, I agree, this is my way to encourage them to participate. And I didnt say they are scum, I said they were scummy. Of course the best lynch is someone that could exonerate several players, and EC feels like a potential one. How will my vote exonerate other people?
well basically if you turn red, at least one of the players defending you is probably scum. While if you turn green one of the accuser might be scum.
Either way since we have several players arguing for and against we would gain a lot of information from the lynch. This is true for everyone I wasn't pointing to you specifically. Although I think you fit the bill best so far.
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On July 21 2016 04:40 Skynx wrote:
Kruppe can you at least play normal after d1?
Skynx have you been lurking all day?
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On July 21 2016 04:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:44 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:38 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:34 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:32 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:22 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:
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Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target.
Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you.
Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future. Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually. No but the timing is awful. In my mind your digging a deeper hole you should just have waited with that point. In IRL mafia where I play that would have been a fatal misstake. Waited with which point? I'm a little confused, you think that if someone makes a case against you can't be suspicious of them? It's rock solid logic, mafia doesn't need to find mafia so they don't make cases so everyone that makes a case is 100% town all the time. Good point, it however is usually made by rookie mafia which I believe EC not to be if he is one? I appreciate it when I make good points and people acknowledge how logical and smart I am. I want you to explain your reasoning so far for your extensive read. I would, but I just forgot them, I'm really sorry. I'll let you know if I remember.
Wow at least you are being honest but it is such a poor answer.
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On July 21 2016 04:53 emperorchampion wrote:
I think I'm just going to step back for a little bit and see what else starts to come up.
I think you are town and I will switch votes soon. But I am not sure yet which player though.
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I am off to bed soon I might post once more but Ill be back tomorrow.
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I just got back from work Ill be back in a while, I need some catching up too.
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On July 21 2016 04:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
Is this 1920's Chicago, or something? No way there are that many Mafia. On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading: 3) Skynx 4) Lunaticman 5) emperorchampion 10) Tumblewood yourself Can you post some reasons? yes I can but I won't because that would take effort and not be that fun.
I want you to at least summarise why, this is important to see what you are thinking atm.
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On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:Ok I've been taking notes. Things that have stuck out to me. Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:19 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? I was ehh kind of uncertain on luna until he made this post. this is about the exact opposite of what a mafia would post if they were trying to blend in / sound town. scrubtell? On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw  . Game is young. ehh not sure what to make of this post. it's weird, but townies are weird too. idk, townreading koshi blindly seems to be working for me so far. Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Here tumble made a quick unprompted re-evaluation of his read on Lunatic. I think that is a strong indication that Tumble is making genuine reads and is therefore town. Mafia spends more time deciding how they want to interpret a player and then defend their interpretation until they are given a reason to change. Re-evaluating Lunatic. Lunatic hasn't made any real accusations until Palmar voted him. Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:47 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 20:32 Grackaroni wrote:
From my experience day 1 lynch usually lands on somebody largely inactive. Yes I agree, is it too soon to start voting? I am unsure about the timezones for all the players but this is to quiet. It feels like a scum town atm... I would throw accusations left and right now if it was irl to gauge some responses! I don't see why forum mafia would be any different from in real life mafia. Moreover, right now he's voting for someone he thinks is town?? Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 01:18 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff? Read skynx his filter. I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC. I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it. Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4sta
To me this means you can't have played that much mafia IRL, because it is defacto the most common way to put pressure on people. Most people IRL will not get into a verbal argument unless forced on the spot. And that is when they make misstakes. On a forum the effect is diminished since you cant look someone in the eye, but I have won several games using this strategy simply by looking at their body language under pressure.
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On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time
Go to a convention and play, you would be amazed on hoq quickly time flies. 40min day, 5min last defense, 15 min night time (with bathroom break). And around 8-16 players each game. Do the math!
It is an amazing experience I recommend it.
And for the record, when the game is ON, everything is serious.
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On July 21 2016 08:49 emperorchampion wrote:
hmm I feel OK about grack and prpl atm
palmar I find his read list pretty underwhelming, also his vote on lunatic is not that odd in of itself but it's weird that he said he didn't notice him when clearly he did or else woudn't have voted. I don't think he was trolling at that point
a lot of lunatic's posts don't add up so there's that
can some people explain more their town reads on tumble?
kruppe has given some reads, but without any reasoning they are a little tenuous, but at least it's something for now.
rels I guess we'll see tomorrow
sl??? I'm pretty not down with him not posting at all, but we'll see what happens
How are my posts wierd, I responded to everything associated with me. People are just using me to fill their post count and downplaying what I am trying to do which is generate friction. Which I stated in my earlier posts.
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