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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 15:22 GMT
#721
On July 22 2016 00:15 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:52 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:48 emperorchampion wrote:
The issue is that I have no idea who scum could be


Isn't it hard playing as town?

I think Koshi made some good points. But I dont want Palmer to walk especially since he hasn't been active.


Koshi did make some good points. My slight suspicion on kush taints my views of koshi though, since I think that koshi gave a kinda wierd defense of kush.

I dunno, so far I think it's harder to play as mafia, also waaay more stressful!


We really need to decide someone to lynch, I am a little bit lost atm if my read is not correct.
Failure is not an option
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:35 GMT
#722
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.



I hard claim parity cop.
Computer says mafia
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 21 2016 15:36 GMT
#723
Just start stacking votes on Rels and see where it leads.

Pros: He's scum
Cons: Maybe he's town but then we'll figure out something else

But seriously, we need this to go somewhere other than 6 different directions and Rels could absolutely be scum. So start stacking votes on him.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 21 2016 15:36 GMT
#724
On July 22 2016 00:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.



I hard claim parity cop.

Can you just leave Lunaticman alone? He's distracting enough as it is.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 15:37 GMT
#725
On July 22 2016 00:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.



I hard claim parity cop.


Now we are in business, this changes a lot. Please tell us who you scum read for day 1 lynch.
Failure is not an option
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:38 GMT
#726
(also, if Lunaticman isn't town this game is amazing, but there's like 99.9% chance he is town because faking this level of fail is really, really difficult).

Also Koshi is mafia.

Also Kush is mafia

Rest I don't know. But maybe not Koshi, but maybe he is. Let's kill Kush though.

Grack should not be lynched, and Kruppe is just a blind luck policy lynch (which is fine and I don't mind).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:38 GMT
#727
On July 22 2016 00:37 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 00:35 Palmar wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.



I hard claim parity cop.


Now we are in business, this changes a lot. Please tell us who you scum read for day 1 lynch.


It's Kush, you should vote with me because now you know I'm confirmed town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:40 GMT
#728
On July 22 2016 00:36 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 00:35 Palmar wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.



I hard claim parity cop.

Can you just leave Lunaticman alone? He's distracting enough as it is.


It's too much fun
Computer says mafia
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 15:41 GMT
#729
On July 22 2016 00:36 prplhz wrote:
Just start stacking votes on Rels and see where it leads.

Pros: He's scum
Cons: Maybe he's town but then we'll figure out something else

But seriously, we need this to go somewhere other than 6 different directions and Rels could absolutely be scum. So start stacking votes on him.


I think i agree with this the most
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 21 2016 15:42 GMT
#730
Koshi isn't mafia and you have no idea what nnn_thekushmountains is.

Also, I'm the vigilante so you're lying about being the parity cop.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 15:44 GMT
#731
People I am willing to vote atm:

rels, kush, sicklucker, kruppe
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:45 GMT
#732
On July 22 2016 00:41 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 00:36 prplhz wrote:
Just start stacking votes on Rels and see where it leads.

Pros: He's scum
Cons: Maybe he's town but then we'll figure out something else

But seriously, we need this to go somewhere other than 6 different directions and Rels could absolutely be scum. So start stacking votes on him.


I think i agree with this the most

I actually forgot rels is in the game and I'll join in with prplhz's cause.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:46 GMT
#733
Lunatic, you now have two claimed blues to sheep and they both agree, it's time to do the right thing and vote Rels
Computer says mafia
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 15:46 GMT
#734
On July 22 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 00:41 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 22 2016 00:36 prplhz wrote:
Just start stacking votes on Rels and see where it leads.

Pros: He's scum
Cons: Maybe he's town but then we'll figure out something else

But seriously, we need this to go somewhere other than 6 different directions and Rels could absolutely be scum. So start stacking votes on him.


I think i agree with this the most

I actually forgot rels is in the game and I'll join in with prplhz's cause.


How can you forget, he made a decent number of posts earlier in the (irl) day?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 21 2016 15:52 GMT
#735
On July 22 2016 00:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:
On July 22 2016 00:41 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 22 2016 00:36 prplhz wrote:
Just start stacking votes on Rels and see where it leads.

Pros: He's scum
Cons: Maybe he's town but then we'll figure out something else

But seriously, we need this to go somewhere other than 6 different directions and Rels could absolutely be scum. So start stacking votes on him.


I think i agree with this the most

I actually forgot rels is in the game and I'll join in with prplhz's cause.


How can you forget, he made a decent number of posts earlier in the (irl) day?

I have read basically not a single thing from this game. My reads post earlier was just me sticking the playerlist in text document and randomizing it, then adding the categories. I have no idea what is what.

prplhz sounds like he has sass so I'm sheeping that. Kush sounds unusually non-interesting so I'm also okay with that. Koshi hasn't tried to ruin the game or threatened the hosts yet, so maybe he's mafia.
Computer says mafia
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 15:55 GMT
#736
Hmm OK, let me put my vote in the vote-randomizer and see what comes out...

##vote Palmar

Whoa, that's crazy!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 16:00 GMT
#737
On July 21 2016 23:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:37 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:34 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case

Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble

Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields


Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler

Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.
[quote]
Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.

Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:
[quote]
This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.

Also[quote]
how you so sure about kush meta and tone then?

Where did I say I was lurking?
Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push.
I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did.

On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes.


This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems.
On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then.

I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread.

I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush?

Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good.

I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude.

Can you explain the kruppe read? He seems unreadable.

That's it, he's unreadable.

I usually read people like him town and so far it's worked out

That's just because chance on rolling town > chance on rolling mafia
You should decide to lynch people like him when your PoE allows it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 16:00 GMT
#738
On July 22 2016 00:46 Palmar wrote:
Lunatic, you now have two claimed blues to sheep and they both agree, it's time to do the right thing and vote Rels


I actually rofled at this. god I love this game.
Failure is not an option
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 16:06:36
July 21 2016 16:06 GMT
#739
Day 1 Votecount

emperorchampion (1): [s]Lunaticman]/s], Tumblewood
nnn_thekushmountains (1): Grackaroni, Palmar
Rels (3): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi
Sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Palmar(1):: Lunaticman
Lunaticman(1): Skynx

Not voting (9): DCWasabi Rels, sicklucker Kruppe the Eel

Deadline is in on Thursday, Jul 21 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


Currently Rels is set to be lynched with three votes, if anything is wrong please pm your local mod support
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 16:08 GMT
#740
On July 22 2016 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Grack should not be lynched, and Kruppe is just a blind luck policy lynch (which is fine and I don't mind).

Not completely blind. PoE policy lynch. His odds on being mafia are bigger than 3/13. More like 3/6 or so.

50/50
good odds.

Rels is a good lynch, but if he is town I would feel worse than Kruppe ending up being town.






I shall go read that Onegu game and see if Kruppe actually advanced the games there for his own pleasure. I think he did. Not sure. I shall check.
I had a good night of sleep.
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