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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 21 2016 14:37 GMT
#701
On July 21 2016 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:34 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case

Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble

Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields


Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler

Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.

On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:
[quote]

No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games.

Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective

Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.

Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:

On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
[quote]

I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC.

I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it.

Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger.

Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town.
On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar


A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today.
##Vote: Kushm4sta

This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.

Also
On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year.

how you so sure about kush meta and tone then?

Where did I say I was lurking?
Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push.
I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did.

On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes.


This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems.
On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then.

I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread.

I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush?

Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good.

I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude.

Can you explain the kruppe read? He seems unreadable.

That's it, he's unreadable.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 21 2016 14:38 GMT
#702
On July 21 2016 23:37 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:34 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case

Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble

Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields


Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler

Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.

[quote]
Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective

Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.

Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:

[quote]
Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town.
[quote]
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today.
##Vote: Kushm4sta

This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.

Also
On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year.

how you so sure about kush meta and tone then?

Where did I say I was lurking?
Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push.
I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did.

On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes.


This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems.
On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then.

I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread.

I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush?

Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good.

I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude.

Can you explain the kruppe read? He seems unreadable.

That's it, he's unreadable.

I usually read people like him town and so far it's worked out
good times for all
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 14:41 GMT
#703
@ tumble: can you expand on your point?
On July 21 2016 22:36 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 12:07 Tumblewood wrote:
lol just remembered I have two quotes open in other tabs
On July 21 2016 05:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar

kruppe - Isn't he a lot more explicit in his reads than last game? Maybe he's trying harder to look town, because actually he's scum??

the note on kruppe kinda weirds me out but I think kush wouldn't be that obvious probably

I think it's a good point by kush regarding kruppe's posting, but you are saying it could be TMI from kush?

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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 14:43 GMT
#704
It just feels like the votes are not adding up to what ppl are talking about.
Failure is not an option
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 14:45 GMT
#705
On July 21 2016 23:43 Lunaticman wrote:
It just feels like the votes are not adding up to what ppl are talking about.


I agree, we need to consolidate since right now there are like 6 people being voted for.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 21 2016 14:47 GMT
#706
On July 21 2016 23:41 emperorchampion wrote:
@ tumble: can you expand on your point?
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:36 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 21 2016 12:07 Tumblewood wrote:
lol just remembered I have two quotes open in other tabs
On July 21 2016 05:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar

kruppe - Isn't he a lot more explicit in his reads than last game? Maybe he's trying harder to look town, because actually he's scum??

the note on kruppe kinda weirds me out but I think kush wouldn't be that obvious probably

I think it's a good point by kush regarding kruppe's posting, but you are saying it could be TMI from kush?


whatever
not what I was saying but maybe it could be? nah actually, don't think so. it just felt weird because kush was pointing out a reason to scumread kruppe but was obviously not convinced by it and not going to follow it. probably nothing but it bothers me.
good times for all
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 14:48 GMT
#707
The issue is that I have no idea who scum could be
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Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 14:52 GMT
#708
On July 21 2016 23:48 emperorchampion wrote:
The issue is that I have no idea who scum could be


Isn't it hard playing as town?

I think Koshi made some good points. But I dont want Palmer to walk especially since he hasn't been active.
Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 14:52 GMT
#709
I also feel like Tumble is contributing a lot, please elaborate on your scum reads.
Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 14:53 GMT
#710
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?
Failure is not an option
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 21 2016 14:54 GMT
#711
On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote:
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?

I'm sure Grackaroni and Palmar can
good times for all
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 14:57 GMT
#712
On July 21 2016 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote:
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?

I'm sure Grackaroni and Palmar can


What is your read on nnn_thekushmountains?
Failure is not an option
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 21 2016 14:58 GMT
#713
On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote:
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?

It's in my filter. I don't think I can explain it any better. My experience with Kush makes me think his tone is off. Town Kush doesn't give a crap. Scum Kush feels some obligation not to fuck over his teammates.

Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 15:01 GMT
#714
On July 20 2016 22:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Please read it Palmar, you're on my team.


This in combination with your votes is intresting.
Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 15:04 GMT
#715
This is hurting my brain, because I have you as town Grack but it puts doubts in my mind regarding Palmar. I have to read nnn_thekushmountains filter.

Failure is not an option
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 21 2016 15:07 GMT
#716
nnn_thekushmountains does not contribute a whole lot with his posts. Neither is SL...
Failure is not an option
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 21 2016 15:08 GMT
#717
Oh wow this vote count is crazy. Votes flying in all different directions.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 15:09 GMT
#718
On July 21 2016 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote:
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?

It's in my filter. I don't think I can explain it any better. My experience with Kush makes me think his tone is off. Town Kush doesn't give a crap. Scum Kush feels some obligation not to fuck over his teammates.



I kind of agree with this, also I did find his scum list pretty underwhelming since he usually only put like max 5 names on the list from what i can recall. This is a pretty stupid point, but he's also been way more active this game than in previous ones from my experience.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 21 2016 15:11 GMT
#719
Alright I'm off. I'll be back before the lynch, it should be an interesting day.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 21 2016 15:15 GMT
#720
On July 21 2016 23:52 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:48 emperorchampion wrote:
The issue is that I have no idea who scum could be


Isn't it hard playing as town?

I think Koshi made some good points. But I dont want Palmer to walk especially since he hasn't been active.


Koshi did make some good points. My slight suspicion on kush taints my views of koshi though, since I think that koshi gave a kinda wierd defense of kush.

I dunno, so far I think it's harder to play as mafia, also waaay more stressful!
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