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Lunaticman
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On July 25 2016 21:35 Grackaroni wrote: I think a SL luna team makes a great deal of sense. These two both seemed like the ones committed to saving Tumble. Nice, that's what I just said. I mean at least try to come up with something original and not make it sound like it is your idea. | ||
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Lunaticman
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On July 25 2016 21:41 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah. I'm pretty sure these two are working in tandem. Luna's play so far today has just been trying to get town to "FOLLOW KRUPPE HE'S BLUE" yet he didn't vote with Kruppe yesterday when Kruppe wanted to lynch Tumblewood. my only play has been trying to defend myself from you and koshi. I don't understand why following kruppes read is a bad thing. I demand you come up with a better reason to lynch someone besides calling me scummy. | ||
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Lunaticman
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just look at your vote history. Kruppe said that Rels is probably town if tumble flipped red, I have no reason not to doubt him. And also by harassing me in tandem you are coming of as the scum team Graci/Koshi. I'm telling you guys it's gonna end in a town lose if I turn up green because both of you should be lynched for it. | ||
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Lunaticman
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On July 25 2016 22:05 Koshi wrote: How did prplhz suddenly become a better lynch than you? This is the first time you spoke of him ever. Are you not reading the thread again? other people were suggesting he was scum based on the classic "silent mafia" etc. Jebus, I'll lynch myself soon this is to much like talking to someone with a memory of a goldfish. | ||
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Lunaticman
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Lunaticman
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Why? all he is doing is regurgitating the same non sense without actually responding to what I am saying. That is not constructive. just read his filter. Its like 3 pages on whatever I'm saying is wrong. And the he blames me for not being constructive. | ||
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Lunaticman
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On July 25 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote: Can you put a % each person has to flip mafia? I would be interested in that. Because to me it seems you have no internal list of who could be mafia. Why else would you suggest to lynch prplhz at that time. You never once said he could be mafia before that. While you named almost all other people as mafia during the game. 1) Prplhz 2) DCWasabi 3) Skynx 5) emperorchampion 6) Rels 7) sicklucker 8) Gracaroni 12) Koshi I understand I can be confusing I'm sorry if I sound harsh but it's really frustrating to talk to you. I didn't suggest haze is mafia, I simply acknowledged the fact he could be. I mean if someone brings up a good argument I'm not beyond it. And I'll iterate the fact that I only ever wanted to lynch DC today and SL because of Rels reasoning. It is never a bad thing to be paranoid in the game of mafia, nothing is set in stone everything is fluid. | ||
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Lunaticman
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The strongest asset here is that the posts are saved, You should try playing without getting to take notes! I'm still getting used to having that data available to me and also it is extremely hard to read people here compared to IRL that's probably why tumble got to me. | ||
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Lunaticman
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Lunaticman
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On July 25 2016 22:56 prplhz wrote: one wants to lynch me and the other doesn't other than that, reasonable townies should be expected to have similar reads, no? I think we can agree on that this game it has been quite the opposite. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote: If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted. Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓ 1) Prplhz 75% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 60% 5) emperorchampion 0% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 60% 8) Gracaroni 0% 12) Koshi Maybe you are not mafia. ##unvote ##vote Prplhz ok Ill try it give me a sec. | ||
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Lunaticman
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1) Prplhz 25% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 0% 5) emperorchampion 50% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 75% 8) Gracaroni 25% 12) Koshi 75% I think there are many duos here that exonerate each other which I mentioned earlier a bit about. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On July 25 2016 23:36 prplhz wrote: PLEASE LET THE PERCENTAGES ADD UP TO 200% OR DON'T CALL THEM PERCENTAGES lol I understand the confusion. I'ts more if the player was lynched what would the odds be that they flipped mafia. | ||
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Lunaticman
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Let's see if I can think like Tumble. He strikes me like a cautious player, building an early rep by posting in the beginning and then making sure to contribute enough not to get noticed. I think a player like that would spread the risk rather than try to run the town, a classic case of silent mafia. I also think they chose this strategy when they noticed a lot of the players were very vocal (see Skynx/lunaticman/Koshi). I honestly think most of the people talking are TvT when looking at day one. I think tumble made sure never to put his vote on the same ticket as his teammates during day one and two unless otherwise directed and to try and spread suspicion on as many players as possible while making tumble look analytical. Of course I have no read on his meta at all but this is what it felt like. By this reasoning I think there are a couple of names that stick out: The mafia were unlucky that I started a lynch train on Kosi/Tumble that quickly gained traction (other players too). So they had to take some drastic measures: They put DC on Rels to break up the obvious train and quick lynch together with Tumble. When Tumble started gaining traction, DC tried to save him by moving the train too Rels with Tumble (see 62# vote thread) When they noticed that Tumble and Rels had 3/3 they removed DC:s vote. Too Koshi to spread more distrust. Right as the train went to 5, EC removed his vote on Tumble to avoid the auto lynch and DC never once moved his vote at this stage from "random" position (SL was also suspicious from my analysis in this part). At this stage I gave tumble a life line in Grac when he was at 4 votes again. Here SL looks super scummy too but he also believed in Tumbles defense (remember there were 2 big camps going on). At the final count, I think EC made a critical error in the group chat and went for the town cred by command of tumble. In my opinion either EC or SL is scum those two should both be killed. The last mafia can be anyone but my guess is DC because of the no vote (or he was simply afk but I dunno that doesn't make sense. I think they were following the orders of Tumble not to buss/train). Either DC/SL or EC should be mafia for sure. That would make the mafia team look like this: EC/SL/Tumble EC/DC/Tumble DC/SL/Tumble Out of these configurations I believe that EC and SL are the most probable. Resons for bussing your own team mate: This way at least one of them (EC) would gain immense town cred if successfully lynched. Because I think Tumble reasoned that he was going to die next round anyway. Out of those three names SL was defiantly the one with me to push for the grac lynch hardest so he feels like the best lynch with EC. Kruppe however did mention he townread SL and if he is mafia he is sure fooling me. There is only one thing about grac and koshi that is worrying me and they always vote the same. It's just a very wierd thing. If either of them flips the other should definatly die too. If I am completly wrong I apologize to town. Just so you don't tunnel to much I believe Koshi/Grac are to tight and haze/skynx has been really low activity. Man have a cookie for reading that. | ||
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Lunaticman
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On July 26 2016 02:01 Rels wrote: What. So the thing that makes you confirmed town is also the thing that makes DC scum ? It doesn't make sense Well I'm also thinking about the fact that the mafia has been using me as click bait. And I also assume I'm town. Can someone give me a link that explains all the roles in detail that are possible in the game? But I can't see to find it. | ||
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Lunaticman
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On July 26 2016 02:06 Rels wrote: You asked this same question early game already, don't you remember ? Well I can't remember why wouldn't you just post the info :S | ||
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Lunaticman
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"If the jailkeeper target is a mafia killing someone, his target won't be able to carry the kill (IE no mafia kill will happen" I wish he just said who he targeted in plain text, can someone figure that out since if he targeted a mafia there would not have been a nk? | ||
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Lunaticman
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Lunaticman
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On July 26 2016 02:33 Rels wrote: These votecounts are missing the timing actually. It's hard to deduce anything without that. I didn't realize both DC and Skynx wasted their votes, it's worth to check why. EC's hammer is not alignment indicative as said before because his vote didn't matter, but he's pretty townie on his own. We can see Tumble trying to save himself by switching off me and to Grac. I thought it was going to be more insightful than that =X If we assume EC is towny, Skynx is really scummy. Do we think there are 2 mafia on the grac lynch? If so there should be another mafia between Skynx and SL. The only reason I'm holding a bit back on SL is because of kruppes statements. It is the same reason I'm trusting you rels. | ||
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Lunaticman
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On July 26 2016 02:35 prplhz wrote: Tumblewood n1 whoknows n2 role blocked both times so it didn't even matter So he assumed tumble was mafia based on being roleblocked? How did the mafia know kruppe was the jailkeeper? I mean was there an obvious post somewhere that he was jailkeeper day1? | ||
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