How about an extra qt to continue talking about beer?
I've had belgian wheat beer and the initial taste is perfect, can't say it steadily provides a harmonious balance throughout though, as opposed to german wheat bear. I regularly consume Paulaner, Franziskaner, Weihenstephaner, Valentins, Schneiderweisse, Maiselsweisse etc.
On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today?
I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting.
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
well being mafia it was literally my job =]
Meh
On July 06 2016 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote: because thats rule #394 of the internet, if you use mean/bad words then you are angry irl and you are a meanie
if you insult people in a passive aggressive way you are witty and probably a wealthy businessman or doctor
Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent.
It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen.
So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious.
Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia?
Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later.
On July 06 2016 02:41 Shapelog wrote: Wow these are getting shorter:
Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e.
On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote: I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm.
So
Damdred Kush Ve Palmar
Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle.
I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again.
VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel.
Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too.
Damdred, Narcissistic bastard.
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
Sorry Koshi.
Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content.
While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.
I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee
Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now?
On July 06 2016 03:29 Vivax wrote: Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other.
You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts.
I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence.
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
On July 06 2016 03:37 prplhz wrote: I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?
A lot of anal acoustics to only come up with a question about a possible meta argument at the end. Needless to say I don't like this post.
On July 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote: like me and palmar knew you were right obv and came up with a plan to actively descredit you that game (see scum qt). No we didnt want you to get modkilled but apparently thats what sent you over the edge. For all you know palmrs mafia doing the same thing.
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.
And,
Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy
On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote: oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys
Wait..... Oh.
I thought they were the same person :/
Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what.
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?
Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote: I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again?
On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.
Please not a shit fight.
I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.
Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?
Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.
Reminds me of this:
Even though it is Youtube Drama Channels.
What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.
I don't mean now, I just mean in general. Meta only gets you so far, and can fuck you in the late game/lylo (sorry kush)
What am I over analyzing? If you have read X Reason to Town read Palmar based off of what you read, you shouldn't be psyched out by a win rate. Especially for your next point, where you said that we have played with each other before. We could tell you if your point stands or not with our knowledge.
You also do realize that Palmar has voted 2 people, 1 based off of fake tone, and the other cuz he is damdred right?
And yes, it can be obv is someone is playing different (aka scum) but even if you read their games, it will be harder if you haven't played. Not impossible, but still harder. IF you really want to, sure. As you said, the game is kinda slow. But if you have a reasoning like with Palmar, say it. Maybe add at the bottom "I've noticed that Palmar wins a lot. So it has me worried." to express it.
Well it is a tell for some people, Palmar may not be such case. However in anyway i dunno how to make other reads in a such lazy game so far. My point on he wins a lot as scum is a bit stupid i kinda see it now. I'm not psyched out by it tho.
Well, let's generate some content, no?
What is your current read on Palmar, based off of everything you have read and seen, and why? Who is your top suspect right now? In Total WarHammer, Should I Attack the Orcs first or The VC first as Dwarfs?
On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.
Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush
@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.
Honestly its not good thought process, and its not a good town read on kush at all. I just don't like scum reading kush and anytime I see him put effort into a game or that he thought about what he was doing in any way i just plop him in town pile for the day and then look at him later.
And i'm not familar with noir and I really dont' feel like reading another game at present so i'll just take your guys word for it and hope kush shows up like he would normally do.
I could of swore you have read it. Anyways,
Just read his filter then? He died at the beginning of N1 due to modkill, and his filter is 2 pages IIRC. In this case, you really don't have to really read much anyways to see if my point (about him making content and tone) is right or not. That much you should be able to pick up after skimming.
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
well being mafia it was literally my job =]
Meh
On July 06 2016 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote: because thats rule #394 of the internet, if you use mean/bad words then you are angry irl and you are a meanie
if you insult people in a passive aggressive way you are witty and probably a wealthy businessman or doctor
Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent.
It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen.
So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious.
Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia?
Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later.
See, Talking like zinyak isn't good.
You play SR4, zinyak is cool and you try talking like him, and this is what happens. You come out sounding all confusing and stuff. Bravo, Bravo *claps*
On July 06 2016 02:41 Shapelog wrote: Wow these are getting shorter:
Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e.
On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote: I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm.
So
Damdred Kush Ve Palmar
Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle.
I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again.
VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel.
Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too.
Damdred, Narcissistic bastard.
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
Sorry Koshi.
Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content.
While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.
I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee
Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now?
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
Thoughts?
Okay shape is town too.
Why exactly? Cause I brought up a meta point, reached it prob. wasn't true, and ask for Opinion on it?
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
Thoughts?
Okay shape is town too.
I agree!
Don't you fucking dare add to this ridiculousness.
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote: Zzz koshi almost confirms himself
On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.
Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush
@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.
Koshi from "almost confirmed" to "town pile anyway" in 2 hours?
This is just a list of people you've played the most with before. It's pretty underwhelming.
I don't think this is true in any sense of the word. I have played a lot with Koshi and Palmar.
Kush is hit and miss, VE is a seldom played with. And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts.
As for that I at least have reads that I have in thread that people can talk about instead. What are your reads exactly prp?
I still think it's very true. Those are the people you play with the most and now you're just townreading them all and putting yourself on the list.
Skynx town, Koshi town. I prefer to keep my other reads to myself for now as they're more likely to change before deadline.
I mean you latterly posted that, f5, and posted another read, when you just said that you wouldn't. There appears to be a conflict of interests here. Well actually just logic too. I mean, If you said, "I have other reads, but they might change." that wouldn't be the problem, but you said that you were going to keep them to yourself.
On July 06 2016 04:57 Palmar wrote: btw koshi 100% fake rage and fake nice
Seems unlikely that we're lynching him today!
I'm just saying
rather lynch you anyway
Absolutely no way that's going to happen, even with lots of people sort of calling me scum.
If this is softing blue I can 100% totally lynch you.
If it isn't, I am awaiting you being a bacon of shining townieness light.
It's not, I'm vanilla. Why are you blue hunting though? And when have you ever seen me being a shining beacon of townieness light? What makes you think this game is going to be any different?
Anyway, I sort of want to lynch Race Bannon. I think his filter has a big post that says absolutely nothing. The rest are scattered remarks that looks like "I better contribute something!".
He also calls my post scum and then says he has no idea why Koshi would think I'm scum.
Then his tinfoil theory and Palmar calling him out on it. Normally, I'd say that tinfoil theories are townie but the way he reacts to being called out on it, by one of the people he's accusing of being scum. A scum read tells him his theory is tinfoily and he just says "Yea it's silly. But maybe it's true". Looks really bad to me.
##Vote Race Bannon
First off, If koshi is blue hunting, why isn't that scummy enough to vote for?
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
On July 06 2016 04:45 Race Bannon wrote: But instead of insinuating something you should ask imo
Now read Koshi post. Read it. Did it? Good?
Is it talking about you being scum, or VA's reasoning and logic on that post? It is VA's reasoning and logic, which included the scum read on you. It wasn't about if you were scum or not (though, Koshi has his own reasoning) it was about thoughts about VA's post.
And if you do not believe me, look at the follow up post. Why would RB ask koshi to ask you if you were scum?
A lot of what you are doing doesn't make sense, or is wrong info.
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote: ##vote prplhz
I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.
Furthermore, the following post is suspicious: "I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"
If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up? Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already... This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting. Seems unnecessarily distracting.
Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode. "Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"
In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum. Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?
Who do you think are unlikely to be scum together?
On July 06 2016 17:25 VisceraEyes wrote: I think my favorite lynch so far is VA - his effort so far has been sub-par even for him, and his latest set of posts intimates a scumread on prplhz but no vote and no reasoning - followed by a promise to sheep Koshi's replacement, even though he's got a scumread himself. This tells me that he's either A) town and gives very few shits about this game or B) mafia trying to lay low while pocketing Koshi/Koshi's replacement. I find B to be more likely, as VA tends to have a more authoritative way when he's town - takes no shit, lets no shit slide, etc.
##Vote: VayneAuthority
VA's "I'll sheep whoever koshi's replacement is" post is maybe not super townie, but it's at least 1 reason to think he might be town. It sounds like somewhat of a genuine thing.
I'm not really gonna defend VA though, he could very, very easily be mafia, there is a reason I initially scumread him. I just think there is a better reason to kill sicklucker.
The reason not to kill sicklucker is maybe he sincerely just wants to know who it is we kill today. After that he can take his mind off the problem and hunting scum, who knows
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote: RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.
im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.
1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works. Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this. 2. Watch the pronoun
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote: ##vote prplhz
I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.
Furthermore, the following post is suspicious: "I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"
If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up? Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already... This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting. Seems unnecessarily distracting.
Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode. "Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"
In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum. Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?
Who do you think are unlikely to be scum together?
Guys, activity is more than just number of posts and number of words right? It also matters if your posts actually mean something.
On to the question from RB...
prplhz and Koshi are unlikely to be scum together
I am town-reading Damdred, Vivax, Skynx, Shapelog, Palmar?(beyond my reading skills lol). Also, I suspect that Koshi is town even though he wants to lynch me for low activity, he is using #logic.
prplhz, RaceBannon, kush seem most scummy to me
Especially prplhz/kush mafia combo. Seems like they want to lynch me and sway the vote without contributing much. Since I know that I am town, the fact that they both want to lynch me obviously makes me suspicious. Hopefully it is not just because I have drawn attention to both of them at points, if they think that my logic is bad, then they should attack my logic and not attack me.
Maybe they're just squeezing you for content which you haven't provided yet, which should strike you as town if you leave bias at the door.
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote: RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.
im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.
1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works. Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this. 2. Watch the pronoun
You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
On July 06 2016 04:11 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:54 Shapelog wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:42 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:57 Shapelog wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.
And,
Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy
On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote: oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys
Wait..... Oh.
I thought they were the same person :/
Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what.
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?
Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote: I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again?
On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.
Please not a shit fight.
I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.
Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?
Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.
What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.
I don't mean now, I just mean in general. Meta only gets you so far, and can fuck you in the late game/lylo (sorry kush)
What am I over analyzing? If you have read X Reason to Town read Palmar based off of what you read, you shouldn't be psyched out by a win rate. Especially for your next point, where you said that we have played with each other before. We could tell you if your point stands or not with our knowledge.
You also do realize that Palmar has voted 2 people, 1 based off of fake tone, and the other cuz he is damdred right?
And yes, it can be obv is someone is playing different (aka scum) but even if you read their games, it will be harder if you haven't played. Not impossible, but still harder. IF you really want to, sure. As you said, the game is kinda slow. But if you have a reasoning like with Palmar, say it. Maybe add at the bottom "I've noticed that Palmar wins a lot. So it has me worried." to express it.
Well it is a tell for some people, Palmar may not be such case. However in anyway i dunno how to make other reads in a such lazy game so far. My point on he wins a lot as scum is a bit stupid i kinda see it now. I'm not psyched out by it tho.
Well, let's generate some content, no?
What is your current read on Palmar, based off of everything you have read and seen, and why? Who is your top suspect right now? In Total WarHammer, Should I Attack the Orcs first or The VC first as Dwarfs?
On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.
Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush
@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.
Honestly its not good thought process, and its not a good town read on kush at all. I just don't like scum reading kush and anytime I see him put effort into a game or that he thought about what he was doing in any way i just plop him in town pile for the day and then look at him later.
And i'm not familar with noir and I really dont' feel like reading another game at present so i'll just take your guys word for it and hope kush shows up like he would normally do.
I could of swore you have read it. Anyways,
Just read his filter then? He died at the beginning of N1 due to modkill, and his filter is 2 pages IIRC. In this case, you really don't have to really read much anyways to see if my point (about him making content and tone) is right or not. That much you should be able to pick up after skimming.
Also:
And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts.
On July 06 2016 04:17 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:49 VisceraEyes wrote: [quote] Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
well being mafia it was literally my job =]
Meh
On July 06 2016 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote: because thats rule #394 of the internet, if you use mean/bad words then you are angry irl and you are a meanie
if you insult people in a passive aggressive way you are witty and probably a wealthy businessman or doctor
Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent.
It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen.
So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious.
Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia?
Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later.
See, Talking like zinyak isn't good.
You play SR4, zinyak is cool and you try talking like him, and this is what happens. You come out sounding all confusing and stuff. Bravo, Bravo *claps*
Leave zinyak to the voice actors kiddo.
On July 06 2016 04:20 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:41 Shapelog wrote: Wow these are getting shorter:
Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e.
On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote: I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm.
So
Damdred Kush Ve Palmar
Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle.
I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again.
VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel.
Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too.
Damdred, Narcissistic bastard.
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote: [quote] People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
Sorry Koshi.
Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content.
While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.
I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee
Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now?
Don't ask baby, Just do.
On July 06 2016 04:22 Damdred wrote: And honestly shape would be up there I'd played most lately with.
But idk shape needs to show me something because he's punked a couple of games lately. And fuck losing to shape again (no offense).
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
Thoughts?
Okay shape is town too.
Why exactly? Cause I brought up a meta point, reached it prob. wasn't true, and ask for Opinion on it?
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
Thoughts?
Okay shape is town too.
I agree!
Don't you fucking dare add to this ridiculousness.
Oh wait you just contridcted yourself.
On July 06 2016 04:28 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:18 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:15 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote: Zzz koshi almost confirms himself
On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.
Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush
@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.
Koshi from "almost confirmed" to "town pile anyway" in 2 hours?
This is just a list of people you've played the most with before. It's pretty underwhelming.
I don't think this is true in any sense of the word. I have played a lot with Koshi and Palmar.
Kush is hit and miss, VE is a seldom played with. And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts.
As for that I at least have reads that I have in thread that people can talk about instead. What are your reads exactly prp?
I still think it's very true. Those are the people you play with the most and now you're just townreading them all and putting yourself on the list.
Skynx town, Koshi town. I prefer to keep my other reads to myself for now as they're more likely to change before deadline.
I mean you latterly posted that, f5, and posted another read, when you just said that you wouldn't. There appears to be a conflict of interests here. Well actually just logic too. I mean, If you said, "I have other reads, but they might change." that wouldn't be the problem, but you said that you were going to keep them to yourself.
On July 06 2016 05:26 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:02 Palmar wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:57 Palmar wrote: btw koshi 100% fake rage and fake nice
Seems unlikely that we're lynching him today!
I'm just saying
rather lynch you anyway
Absolutely no way that's going to happen, even with lots of people sort of calling me scum.
If this is softing blue I can 100% totally lynch you.
If it isn't, I am awaiting you being a bacon of shining townieness light.
It's not, I'm vanilla. Why are you blue hunting though? And when have you ever seen me being a shining beacon of townieness light? What makes you think this game is going to be any different?
Anyway, I sort of want to lynch Race Bannon. I think his filter has a big post that says absolutely nothing. The rest are scattered remarks that looks like "I better contribute something!".
He also calls my post scum and then says he has no idea why Koshi would think I'm scum.
Then his tinfoil theory and Palmar calling him out on it. Normally, I'd say that tinfoil theories are townie but the way he reacts to being called out on it, by one of the people he's accusing of being scum. A scum read tells him his theory is tinfoily and he just says "Yea it's silly. But maybe it's true". Looks really bad to me.
##Vote Race Bannon
First off, If koshi is blue hunting, why isn't that scummy enough to vote for?
Second, lets look at the Koshi point:
On July 06 2016 04:43 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
Ideas anybody?
Not really
On July 06 2016 04:45 Race Bannon wrote: But instead of insinuating something you should ask imo
Now read Koshi post. Read it. Did it? Good?
Is it talking about you being scum, or VA's reasoning and logic on that post? It is VA's reasoning and logic, which included the scum read on you. It wasn't about if you were scum or not (though, Koshi has his own reasoning) it was about thoughts about VA's post.
And if you do not believe me, look at the follow up post. Why would RB ask koshi to ask you if you were scum?
A lot of what you are doing doesn't make sense, or is wrong info.
On July 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote: like me and palmar knew you were right obv and came up with a plan to actively descredit you that game (see scum qt). No we didnt want you to get modkilled but apparently thats what sent you over the edge. For all you know palmrs mafia doing the same thing.
Grow some skin
Wonder why he didn't type
"for all we know"
maybe it is nothing.
Hmm
Why did you stop playing like this? 3 strong opinions based off single posts:
On July 06 2016 03:29 Vivax wrote: Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other.
You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts.
I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence.
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
On July 06 2016 03:37 prplhz wrote: I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?
A lot of anal acoustics to only come up with a question about a possible meta argument at the end. Needless to say I don't like this post.
I will if I see posts which trigger strong impressions.
I wasn't insinuating, just felt tricked into playing shape's disney video due to him going to town on prphz's case on me.
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote: RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.
im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.
1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works. Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this. 2. Watch the pronoun
You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx.
What point was that?
That his meta analysis was too complex to come from town? (I guess?)
I didn't say it was too complex for town. Trying to put myself in the position of meta diving, I surely would've done a lousier job though, especially on my tablet.
On July 06 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote: Same with this. Can you use more words? What are you insinuating here? Why did you ask that question. I don't understand at all.
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote: ##vote prplhz
I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.
Furthermore, the following post is suspicious: "I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"
If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up? Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already... This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting. Seems unnecessarily distracting.
Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode. "Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"
In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum. Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?
Who do you think are unlikely to be scum together?
It's a question which forces him to lie if he's scum.
Thought it would be a good idea to throw it in there and it helped open him up a bit. I'll have to think about his answer.
On July 07 2016 00:54 Koshi wrote: RB is suggesting that skynx didn't actually check the games and Palmar gave skynx the answer to RB "trick" question in scum QT.
im aware of that, it's just a really nutso theory and I don't believe RB takes it serious herself. Expressing that theory also implies suspicion of Palmar that isn't in her filter.
1. I noticed he brought his meta search to a fairly complex conclusion quite hastily, and thought it was suspicious. Maybe Koshi has some insight about how fast his ex student's cognition works. Other than leaving this there for future reference there was not much I could do with this. 2. Watch the pronoun
You were surely in a jesting mood when you said a scum Palmar gave him that information? By doing that you kind of buried your own point you seemed to try to make about Skynx.
What point was that?
That his meta analysis was too complex to come from town? (I guess?)
I didn't say it was too complex for town. Trying to put myself in the position of meta diving, I surely would've done a lousier job though, especially on my tablet.
Let me be very blunt.
Were you suspicious of Skynch when you wrote that post? Were you suspicious of Palmar when you wrote that post?
Was that post intended to express an opinion at all?
No, no, no. It still might be true, and I regret nothing.
Reads. Town Koshi: rage fit seemed genuine Palmar: confrontational and stuff Shapelog: something I may or may not have said earlier. Could be backstabing me after initial whiteknighting but I don't think so.
Would lynch anyone else, will be here for the deadline madness.
On July 07 2016 04:46 Koshi wrote: Hmm. prplhz making a list right when Vivax and I do it... dnu, might keep him in just for that. Let me think about the list:
On July 07 2016 04:32 prplhz wrote: okay d1 resume town tier list (and more):
Skynx Palmar Koshi Race Bannon DCWasabi
rest are iffy tier
Skynx is actually reading through old games and stuff.
Palmar because Skynx meta analysis.
Koshi because for now I'm just gonna assume that he really got super mad about some minor things which seems townie enough.
Race Bannon because mafia 101.
DCWasabi seems alright for a newbie. I actually liked his case on me.
Rest didn't make much impression on me.
Would not lynch tier:
VisceraEyes looks sort of good but he didn't do much, especially last night when he was like "Wow 5 pages!" and then he didn't actually do anything. It's this looking-good/not-doing-that-much thing that disturbs. Maybe I'm just used to him being more vocal.
Vivax is kind of the same thing. Didn't really do much to make me think town but he seems sort of level headed all the time while still pushing odd stuff. nnn_thekushmountains too.
Could be persuaded to lynch with relative ease tier:
Damdred, VayneAuthority, sicklucker.
No idea tier: Shapelog.
Don't really have a clear scum read on anyone, just a bunch of people I think are town and a bunch of people I think I would get a better idea about if they were around for another day and then the rest.
I don't like the townreads AT ALL. Almost not a single one. skynx town cuz he reads old games? ez much? Palmar town cuz meta skynx provided? How the fuck does that work? RB cause mafia 101? I don't even know what that is. DCWasabi townread is like ... w0t?
The 3 null reads are better. Suspicion on VE Vivax and Kush reads are based on his own reads which might indicate he is not faking his own reads? Or at least is doing a good job picking out players who made posts not agreeing with his reads.
Not having an idea on Shape is also w.e on the one hand, not so hard to fake one as mafia on the other hand, not so hard to make one as town.
On July 07 2016 05:01 Race Bannon wrote: Reads. Town Koshi: rage fit seemed genuine Palmar: confrontational and stuff Shapelog: something I may or may not have said earlier. Could be backstabing me after initial whiteknighting but I don't think so.
Would lynch anyone else, will be here for the deadline madness.
? Da fuq are u talking about?
You keep insisting I protected you, when I didn't....? Or did I missed something?
On July 07 2016 05:01 Vivax wrote: I just voted prplhz.
Let's see if people who get scumread a lot but only voted little tend to flip mafia.
I prob. join too, just want to go through everyone. Nothing he has done today makes me feel any different then I did yesterday.
You dissected prplhz's case and revealed its flawed everything in a way which seemed like you wanted to help him overcome his errors, without calling him scum which I think is a towntell, but now you vote him and it makes me wander why you didn't let me address it first.
I was going to ignore it, but your lack of curiosity for my reaction seems disturbing. How do you scumhunt?
On July 06 2016 19:54 sicklucker wrote: Vivax its your job tomorrow to make the stupid town not lynch me on day 1. Like how I make the stupid towns not lynch you on day 1. gl
On July 06 2016 20:17 sicklucker wrote: yes the vote is today. kush your like my only town read. you better not vote me day 1. thats taking out the trash day
23 mins, no post from Vivax in between..
So I suppose SL doesn't TR the guy he asks to save his arse, yet town reads Kush for maybe emotional effect? Seriously, How does SL ask Vivax to protect him, and then Kush is his only TR? And Vobby was soft defending him at that point at well.
Urg, I want to vig shot like 3 people, if not 4.
I don't see how anyone can townread kush, he hasn't done anything except poop out a list, best case scenario it's based on some intricate statistic but come on.
On July 07 2016 05:30 Race Bannon wrote: 1. Why didn't you let me react to prplz's case?
2. Who do you want to lynch and do you need help from me?
Because I saw the contradiction and wanted to point it out. And TBH, at like w/e that post came out i really didn't think "Wait let RB answer it." as I was in a mafia mood after spamming a obs thread for the last 2 hours. Plus, you were offline (IIRC? too lazy to check) or already posted something at him. Basically a knee-jerk
2. Prp is up there. Vote swing was a bit questionable tbh (as in 2 -> 5 votes in less then a hour) so that has been on my mind. SL I am indifferent, U i need to look at, Wasbi is a gamble IMO, and I rather have another day (if I don't die) to gather info on him. VA i could.
Basically Prp is prehaps lowering due to vote logic atm, VA, SL is mine
On July 07 2016 06:39 sicklucker wrote: lol well ok... well literally everyone wants to vote me for no logical reason in this game no use fighting it anymore even the random people.
Im a one shot tracker (powerrole) you guys are bad and you should feel bad afk untill im nked
WaveofShadow (Tracker): On a holiday with family, you take in the sights and sounds of Munich. Only for one thing, you absolutely cannot stand German beer and are extremely sceptical of anyone who is over the top about it. You are a tracker. Each night you can submit the name of a player of whom to track, with the result(s) returned at the daypost. You can be roleblocked. You win with town.
On July 07 2016 06:39 sicklucker wrote: lol well ok... well literally everyone wants to vote me for no logical reason in this game no use fighting it anymore even the random people.
Im a one shot tracker (powerrole) you guys are bad and you should feel bad afk untill im nked
WaveofShadow (Tracker): On a holiday with family, you take in the sights and sounds of Munich. Only for one thing, you absolutely cannot stand German beer and are extremely sceptical of anyone who is over the top about it. You are a tracker. Each night you can submit the name of a player of whom to track, with the result(s) returned at the daypost. You can be roleblocked. You win with town.
literally, says EACH NIGHT
Nha. More below it says every role except vet and something else can be 1shot 2 shot etc. The roles pms there are examples. I am a sucker for blue claims but not this time.
You should have played better sicklucker. This lynch is mostly on you.
On July 07 2016 06:45 Shapelog wrote: Hmm, Race did just come out of nowhere with a VE push Sky.
But I feel strongly (and even more if SL flips town) that VA or Prp has to be scum due to vote logic, and one of Koshi/Palmar/Damdred/Vivax is as well (if SL flips town, as they were the major starters).
On July 07 2016 06:51 Damdred wrote: I'm trying to save our claimed blue I mean VA is a null read for me I just don't want the blue to die tbh and unless we move to haze who I don't want to Lynch it's our option today.
he claimed blue doesn't mean he is blue you know.
Every mafia that didn't claim vanilla will claim blue in a setup like this, unless bad
If he claims information role don't lynch him just yet, is what I always say.
On July 08 2016 04:12 Damdred wrote: I know I promises a huge thought out post but I doubt I make it to the computer in time to post it on deadline. So instead I'm OK g to give you my thoughts from my phone and we can dwell into it.
The first conclusion that I reached was that I think skyn is most likely town in this situation. If you look at how he approaches the Lynch refuses to move off of sl, pretty co.bative about it and not really caring about his appearance. I think he's almost locked town at this juncture. There's no reason as scum in that situation just to sit on sl when you have another town up for Lynch and you will get unneeded pressure placed on you by the rest of the thread.
So really sure he's town
That starts with
Town:Damdred Skynx (Semi confirmed) SL
I won't really talk about sl here he's town until e get some sort of cc just going to ignore him.
Koshi is another person I think is almost lock town at this juncture, his early rage. His push later, refusal to see things from others perspective. His somewhat bm afterwards and how he reacted to the Lynch coupled with his activity I think make him town.
Vivax is my town bro this game. Activity wise he's town, pressure wise it looks like normal vivax. He is even jumping around in his thought process to my eyes. There will always be small doubts from people about vivax just watch him around d3-4 if he just disappears for all the time Lynch him then. But I think he's town now.
Basically I need to find 4 towns out of the rest of the game to have a lock from my perspective or at least find some scum.
My first scum I want to talk about just from voting logic is race banon. He was here during the EOD even said so much in thread but when it was super co tenuous and we were trying to figure out where we were going he moved his vote to where it really had no affect and let town just do what it wanted to do. I think it fits nicely into what scum enjoys doing, sidelines, doesn't care about the Lynch as it's t v t. But seems to be here at the same time.
I like him for scum.
Scum: race banon
Town: Damdred Koshi Vivax Skyn Sl Shape
I just think shape is town, he's super involved in everything and really pushing his thoughts into the thread. He's playful and somewhat smart just town shape.
I'm town and if we don't lynch Stynx d2 I'm going to be pissed. Then when he flips red if you don't start justifying your seed you go next.
On July 08 2016 04:12 Damdred wrote: I know I promises a huge thought out post but I doubt I make it to the computer in time to post it on deadline. So instead I'm OK g to give you my thoughts from my phone and we can dwell into it.
The first conclusion that I reached was that I think skyn is most likely town in this situation. If you look at how he approaches the Lynch refuses to move off of sl, pretty co.bative about it and not really caring about his appearance. I think he's almost locked town at this juncture. There's no reason as scum in that situation just to sit on sl when you have another town up for Lynch and you will get unneeded pressure placed on you by the rest of the thread.
So really sure he's town
That starts with
Town:Damdred Skynx (Semi confirmed) SL
I won't really talk about sl here he's town until e get some sort of cc just going to ignore him.
Koshi is another person I think is almost lock town at this juncture, his early rage. His push later, refusal to see things from others perspective. His somewhat bm afterwards and how he reacted to the Lynch coupled with his activity I think make him town.
Vivax is my town bro this game. Activity wise he's town, pressure wise it looks like normal vivax. He is even jumping around in his thought process to my eyes. There will always be small doubts from people about vivax just watch him around d3-4 if he just disappears for all the time Lynch him then. But I think he's town now.
Basically I need to find 4 towns out of the rest of the game to have a lock from my perspective or at least find some scum.
My first scum I want to talk about just from voting logic is race banon. He was here during the EOD even said so much in thread but when it was super co tenuous and we were trying to figure out where we were going he moved his vote to where it really had no affect and let town just do what it wanted to do. I think it fits nicely into what scum enjoys doing, sidelines, doesn't care about the Lynch as it's t v t. But seems to be here at the same time.
I like him for scum.
Scum: race banon
Town: Damdred Koshi Vivax Skyn Sl Shape
I just think shape is town, he's super involved in everything and really pushing his thoughts into the thread. He's playful and somewhat smart just town shape.
I'm town and if we don't lynch Stynx d2 I'm going to be pissed. Then when he flips red if you don't start justifying your seed you go next.
I think my read us justified in the very post you quoted.
So what's wrong with it exactly?
Your seed. It's an expression from Infinite Jest whereby tennis players who rank high are expected to reach a certain stage at a tournament.
On July 08 2016 05:08 Koshi wrote: Palmar is still most likely town because he was looking at the right place at the right time. But he is more null-town atm. If sicklucker is town maybe Palmar moves a bit more down. Before that for sure not.
You really just need to look for mafia within Sicklucker (I don't buy the claim.) RB (his latest post about skynx being mafia is just too fucking bad to come from town.) prplhz (couple reasons to be town, if I am alive I look into them) VE (I have nothing good to say about VE, it is a 50/50 because he is so incredible bad and uninterested as town you can never be sure he is mafia because he is also really good at playing bad and uninterested as mafia.) DCWasabi (maybe, also has a reason to be town but 1 isn't enough.)
5 names. Pretty easy game if you have another day. The towns are pretty lock.
EBWOP: biased when it comes to Skynx. I can see how you want the scumslip you found on sl and all the other stuff confirmed or denied. But Skynx simply refusing to unvote the uncced claimer is just scum.
It's scum because he feigned following you into almost mislynching who he knows is a pr.
And then he says sl is an idiot for playing the way he did and this is where i'm sure he's scum.. he says the mafia RB will make him useless and that's why he played badly. It's a slip .. now
"Race bannon is useless ghost as I've read it. Please do something remotely useful. Anything, at all."
You asked me if I had any questions or something while you were busy doing your thing. And I said yeah and did a resume of scattered bits and pieces of my thoughts with regard to you, so I asked what was relevant. If you wanted to be sheeped and why you didn't let me react to the case.
You assume that if I have a townread I'm just going to blindly follow through with it instead of poking it from time to time for the sake of consolidarion? You're wrong
I know I didn't do shit day1, so I could tell my reads were superficial if at all existent. So I thought why not be a clown in the circus and see where it leads, luckily opportunistic Skynx was there to try and get a mislynch on who I'm pretty sure is the tracker and now I feel on top of my game.
On July 08 2016 06:41 Skynx wrote: RB I don't even know if I should take you serious but I'll bite anyway. 1) Uncc'd claim means absolute jack shit. If SL is mafia there is no way he doesn't blueclaim and he claimed 1-day tracker which is like safest claim. I don't remember who but someone pointed somth similar earlier on. 2) I didn't feign follow anyone into anything. You and all others gave us a shit mislynch on VA who was in no way a better lynch than SL for reasons Koshi explained.
On July 08 2016 06:02 Race Bannon wrote: I know I didn't do shit day1, so I could tell my reads were superficial if at all existent. So I thought why not be a clown in the circus and see where it leads, luckily opportunistic Skynx was there to try and get a mislynch on who I'm pretty sure is the tracker and now I feel on top of my game.
no you're not. I was locked SL with 4 others. You're tunneling me because you're scum and you actually managed to get a shittier reason to sr me than suggesting me slipped with Palmar meta earlier on. You're going down.
On July 08 2016 05:51 Race Bannon wrote: You asked me if I had any questions or something while you were busy doing your thing. And I said yeah and did a resume of scattered bits and pieces of my thoughts with regard to you, so I asked what was relevant. If you wanted to be sheeped and why you didn't let me react to the case.
You assume that if I have a townread I'm just going to blindly follow through with it instead of poking it from time to time for the sake of consolidarion? You're wrong
I understand (prob. better then anyone) about looking at your TR's. That I do not have a problem, nor, did I ever say that was the problem.
The prob. is that, for me, there seems to be a disconnect of interest. One reason (the react to the case) seem like you sus. me because of it, hell, it really does sound like you sus me of it. But then, you ask me if I wanted you to sheep me, which makes no sense if you were actually sus. of me.
I have no problem you attacking TR's here and there, My problem is that.
On July 08 2016 05:58 Race Bannon wrote: I didn't even register it was prplhz, I just saw lynch VE .. and was like phuck yeah let's do it for the buzz, srsly.
How did you not even see who was pushing it?
Let alone, why even push that lynch to begin with, if at the time, your top pick (I feel) for scum (prp) was getting voted for?
On July 08 2016 06:02 Race Bannon wrote: I know I didn't do shit day1, so I could tell my reads were superficial if at all existent. So I thought why not be a clown in the circus and see where it leads, luckily opportunistic Skynx was there to try and get a mislynch on who I'm pretty sure is the tracker and now I feel on top of my game.
Koshi (also) was pushing for SL death as well. U don't think he could be scum, and pushing a ML either?
It does to me, make sense. I can townread you, suspect you, dismiss that suspicion to a degree which renders it insignificant, bring the issue up on request and ask if you want to be sheeped because I still think you're town and sheepworthy. I have the technology, and it's in the service of trying to figure out the game.
I saw it was him but I didn't registerhim as a scumread at the time. Well even if I would've it wouldn't have raised flags because my scumread on prpl wasn't even worth switching off the pressure vote on Vayne for.
A lynch on Koshi wouldn't have happened even if I didn't townread him. When was the first alleged scumslip? You mean the Palmar meta search?
Skynx - claimed to be greener than a beer bottle from the start of the game, which is an icomprehensible thing to do for a vt if you value your PRs. Whereas mafia use it to legitimize having stuck around for so long later
- the push on a uncced sl. Everyone still on the wagon after the claim and after the aftermath discussion is suspicious but Skynx sticks out. The whole sl is even scummier now after the claim can only be justified from a townie perspective to create pressure and make sl slip somehow, even then a very risky and most likely pointless reacrion test.
- talks like he knows for 100% certain there's a mafia roleblocker who will render sl ineffective.
- slipped when hw came up with Palmar's meta too fast and effective for somwone who would claim vat at the start of the game as town. Tinfoil theory that he's in cahoots with Palmar stands stronger now.
On July 08 2016 17:50 sicklucker wrote: acualy there is very simple logic to why I am town this game. At the day 1 lynch I was actively trying to get the vote on a third wagon. I was acualy about to self vote over va because I knew I was just going to be roleblocked and be a useless town I only didnt because he started trolling and I remembered how much I dont like him.
But if im mafia why would I be giving the town an option to not lynch a town? I had already claimed and am dead if im mafia. SO why would I try to save va who flipped town? IF im mafia getting town cred means nothing because ill be counterclaimed and muredeered anyway
Might as well paste what I have in my clipboard I decided not to post, maybe later.
QUOTE]On July 09 2016 00:00 Koshi wrote: skynx is so town it hurts my soul. RB not seeing that is almost impossible. skynx is impossible mafia. impossible.[/QUOTE] + Show Spoiler +
What the duck are you talking about holy shit.
First of all this is the game that stops me from qualifying as newbie, it's my 3rd game of forum mafia ever. I've only played rl mafia, a lot and I've obsed a couple games here. Skynx is scum.
SCUM!
Turn of your monitor or mobile device, let it sink in.
Oh you're back, good.
Second have you even read what I've written about him? It wouldn't have mattered anyway because of a condition which can be best described as the opposite of tunnelvision, but it's ok because I've cured you unless you failed to follow my simple instructions.
Let's start at the beginning. WHY?! did he claim "greener than a beer bottle" .. in his first post?
Would you have done that? To get some pr's killed more easily, hmm? Yes you did .. but in a subtle manner and not in your first goddamn post, either way it was bad but not terribad.
Then, if he's so fucking town how is he not dead yet? Fact: He'll never get nked. He'll have you believe it's because he's just a poor little vt, or that someone protected him. We'll have to lynch him, prefferably today. If he's town lynch me next. That's how sure I am.
On July 09 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote: Lol, RB, the problem in that case, is the timing of that post. It was the first few hours of the game (I think), so it was still the joke phase.
On July 09 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote: Lol, RB, the problem in that case, is the timing of that post. It was the first few hours of the game (I think), so it was still the joke phase.
joke phase .. I'll have to remember that.
Yeah.
Good Job thru making it sound scummy.
Oh yeah almost forgot. Can you spot my jk crumb? You won't and you'll shit bricks when I explain it.
For example, I still worry about Breske, since he never came back, and just left 2 games. Would love for Giyga Khan to come back, etc. Also, I saw his last post, and talked somewhat to him in the NSM XX Obs thread (if memory serves me right) and he was somewhat mad, and his last post (Please delete me, Life was banned) just made me want to help.
Also I kinda wanted to play with him, which I never was able too.
On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today?
I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting.
Who is saltlicker? Wait what's going on? VE NNOOooOOooooooooh
I planed to go behind the hosts back and invite every player to a secret uncensored and consequenceless (except race/homophobe/mental stuff) Bierzelt QT, because the hosts didn't mention no outside-of-thread communication in the not to do list, btw.
Decided against it last minute.
The strangest thing is it would've prevented VE's meltdown
On July 09 2016 06:47 Vivax wrote: Welp this is sad. Damdy and race played too well to deserve this, but I hope most can take the mattchew 2.0 blooper lightly.
On July 09 2016 07:28 LightningStrike wrote: Prplhz and Palmar had gotten pre-warnings but Koshi got a full warning in game.
So that's why Palmar..
On July 09 2016 07:33 Koshi wrote: If my post was a warning how is Palmar not a modkill.
Or some guy called me straight up a dumbass somewhere as well. That was also totally nothing but if we are going to go to the extreme forms off no insults at all.
On July 08 2016 07:04 Koshi wrote: If town shot him I instant quit.
First you ask information roles not to check sl, now you say you're not a vigilante. You're a dumbass.
Theatrics my friend, but I apologize.
What are the odds of getting mafia roleblocker in two consecutive games out of 3 in total whilst your name's initials are identical to that of the role?
Ok, now the odds for picking a name that will turn out to have the same initials as the role you will receive for two consecutive times in 3 games total, without knowing you're actually supposed to do that.
What are the odds for picking a name, that name's initials be identical to a mafia role AND receiving that role two consecutive times out of 3 games in total, without knowing you're supposed to do that.
On July 10 2016 02:43 Race Bannon wrote: No wait, i got it.
What are the odds for picking a name, that name's initials be identical to a mafia role AND receiving that role two consecutive times out of 3 games in total, without knowing you're supposed to do that.
Well the depends on how many people have the initials RB in the game.
If none, 0/13 If 1, 1/13 if 2, etc.
In your case, your name and it's initials does not impact the out come. Since only one person has the name Int. RB.
And since all roles are RNGed, it would still be 1/13 for you as well to roll RB. Now, since the Role selection, and the person selection happens at the SAME time, it would be 1/13 per game instead of 1/13 * 1/13.
meaning, you still have a 1/169 of a person with the initials RB, getting the role roleblocker, back to back in games.
Now, if we had two people, it would follow the same suit.
2 Rb's, either can be rb so 2/13 chance of 1 being RB. Back to back, 4/169 chance that anyone with int. RB is RB back to back games.
I think.
Maybe. This was the third question. Now answer the second question or riot.