On June 27 2016 17:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're having the opposite read development as town which is weird to begin with, but you also said when I asked you earlier why you were less certain on me that it was because other people were scumreading me, yet your townread was strongest when I was still being scumread by many.

And now that many people came around on me, you put me in as your 3rd favoured check (and therefore presumably 3rd scummiest player). I find that very odd.

Or you know, other reasons.

I am leaning one way on you in the spectrum. I feel your play yesterday was surprisingly meh. Not the stuff people scumread you for, but your interactions with Jean. Also you EoD joining Jean on his push on me was also superlame. Like I kind of understand how your read formed but it's just bad.

If you really want to we can fight about this tomorrow, but it's probably a waste of time. The reality is that if Jean genuinely considered lynching me there then the game was on the edge of being lost for no real reason and it's a good part of the reason why I did not want him to be in any position of power (personally I also despise(d) his playing style and the fact that it paid off).

Evaluate on the Moosy flip. Is me bussing the most likely scenario?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 08:23 GMT

#1150

That was quite rambly. Either way I can explain why I included you in the cop check on the morrow if I live.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 08:24 GMT

#1151

And I will look to try and cooperate with Jean.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 08:46 GMT

#1154

On June 27 2016 17:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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What in my interactions with Jean did you specifically find meh? Why did you find my play lackluster?

As for joining him on your push on you, I simply disagreed it'd make him scum. I wouldn't have wanted you as the lynch though, and you still aren't my preferred lynch. I'm not sure how you'd behave around MD if he was your buddy, need to contemplate on that.

That he literally bullied you into voting him.

His two scum reads were you and me (iirc). And I was generally townread at the time he came around. I'm just very annoyed that people voted him even though his (scum) reads were (probably) actually pretty shit. Especially you. He hard scumread you and he had a null/scumlean on me. And I was one of the only persons who was not going with the scumArtanis flow. It boggles my mind man.

Anyway I will reveal what I think on the morrow but tbh I don't expect it to make it. :D

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 08:46 GMT

#1155

So many typos z_z. Lack of sleep.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 09:32 GMT

#1157

A lynch on me would be the dumbest shit ever. But we can discuss this until the end of times.

You lynched my mafia instead. Good shit and good call.

We can talk about mafia meta all day but ultimately it's irrelevant. The fact is that I find mafia as town, regardless of how lazy I am. As a result, I have no reason to change my gameplay until I start being very wrong.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 09:41 GMT

#1159

Our egos are clashing and it will result in nothing productive. =/

Pretend I'm town tomorrow and let's see where that gets us?

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 09:52 GMT

#1163

I do agree that my biggest weakness as town is getting others to agree (and by extend sticking to one read to lynch).

My solution is to be right so much that people will just automatically sheep me (half-joke). :D

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 09:54 GMT

#1164

Jean, I understand that you have a vision and everything, but just remember that in the end it's just a game. I play to have fun. I don't have fun writing (and reading) long and elaborate posts.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 09:56 GMT

#1165

Anyway I think we can probably 3-0 mafia this game.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 09:59 GMT

#1167

Treat others as equals, Jean.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 10:01 GMT

#1170

On June 27 2016 19:01 Jean Valjean wrote:

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You mean the dirty peasants? We elected officials try to minimize our contact with them.

We may be friends after all.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 10:48 GMT

#1176

On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder.

Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

June 27 2016 10:50 GMT

#1178

Also 1 mafia between TT and damdred seems likely:
- Both had a weak/dismissive read on Moosy.
- They are both good enough players that one of them would've noticed if they were both town.