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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 19:04 GMT
#531
like, there's playing the game, and then there's trying to solve the game. most of us are just playing the game right now but skynx is going well above that so town.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 19:07 GMT
#533
On June 25 2016 22:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:
On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts


Almost caughtup.

I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous.


Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game.


You know I kinda felt the same... It was overblown especially with his interaction with Damdred.

I didn't get the same happy go lucky trolling feeling from him either, more like
[image loading]

I'm surprised you want to read Jealous based off an "I'm AFK" post.

oh hey this is the post
super also had a post on moosy that was pretty smart
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 19:09 GMT
#535
On June 26 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Well we can't have everyone town read there has to be a scum even outside moosey for you tumble.

And Tt idk he just wasn't very smart in his postings took a post that was a compliment to him not being lynch bait now tried to use it to scum read me, and has been boring sense trying to make mud stick.

yeah but everyone posting today makes me think "yeah why would I lynch him?"
this is going to be a poe game I can taste it
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 23:30 GMT
#569
I don't want QT as mayor because (only a little offense to you QT) I don't think he'll do a very good job of voting scum. I'd rather have a player like Art or Super as mayor because although I have more doubts about their towniness I trust them more to find and vote scum. If QT gets any job it's pardoner because it's more easily abused by mafia and it's a less demanding role.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 23:35 GMT
#571
jean how much experience do you have in mafia?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 23:42 GMT
#578
jean feels a little too obvious to be scum
like he has all the tells kinda but it just doesn't feel right
not sure how to phrase it
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 23:44 GMT
#579
art do you think you've found scum in jean?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 23:49 GMT
#587
On June 26 2016 08:44 Jean Valjean wrote:
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On June 26 2016 08:42 Tumblewood wrote:
jean feels a little too obvious to be scum
like he has all the tells kinda but it just doesn't feel right
not sure how to phrase it


"all the tells" implies that there are some objective things I've done that you can name of the top off your head that you consider to generally be scummy.

Please elaborate on at least three such tells.

I elaborate what I want. first let me give you some backstory.
before I played my first game I scoured the mafiascum wiki looking for tutorials on how to read people and the like. what I quickly realized playing on TL is that the tells were all shit because anyone who actually fit the scum tells were idiots and there are no idiots on TL.
what I mean when I say "all the tells" is that you fit the 7-year-old-mafiascum-article scum archetype, but in my experience that archetype doesn't exist (a la "too obvious") so I'm hesitant to read you scum. feel free to prove me wrong though.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 25 2016 23:53 GMT
#589
On June 26 2016 08:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 26 2016 08:44 Tumblewood wrote:
art do you think you've found scum in jean?

I dunno. My read from the list post hasn't really changed significantly.

do you have any read on him based on his tone? it's pretty uncharacteristic of TL.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 01:19 GMT
#598
shit that was a smurf
my ego is sad
in the context that it's slam yeah back to null
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:03 GMT
#627
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.

why though
like, people call koshi bad all the time and it's the same exact thing
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:05 GMT
#628
I'm thinking our best candidate for mayor is super because he's town (and I feel pretty solid about that) and he's not a scrub.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:06 GMT
#629
gb/art maybe but I still have some reservations
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:16 GMT
#639
On June 26 2016 12:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.

why though
like, people call koshi bad all the time and it's the same exact thing


Because silently wanting to be elected as mayor is something I would expect from mafia. If I am mafia and I'm seeing town organising themselves - specially when a town player is being elected as president -, I would start to discredit people in order to push my agenda.

It's not like calling Koshi bad. I can call Koshi bad and not vote with him, but if Koshi was the towniest person in the game I would vote him 100% of the times simply because having a bad town mayor is better than risking having a good mayor that could be mafia

hell, I don't want a scrub as mayor. if we want a total townie in a special role make it pardoner, it's just as like to be abused by mafia. maybe if ec were pushing the role toward someone more iffy like art or damdred I'd be suspicious but I'm 90% sure his suggestions are both town and it there's no scum motivation in that.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:18 GMT
#640
hell, it plays right into mafia's hand to put someone up for mayor who's bad at scumhunting. it's just as bad to have mafia lynching townies as town lynching townies, only mafia doesn't come under suspicion when town lynches townies.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:44 GMT
#651
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 03:46 GMT
#653
On June 26 2016 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?

I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.

It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes

damdred I thought you didn't want to be mayor
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 04:01 GMT
#660
On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice.


I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty.

Why do you have 90% on Superbia?

a couple posts I liked. first is this one:
On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out.

a) easier for mafia to discuss mechanics than reads
b) last part implies he actually cares about putting town on the right track (prefers to flesh out his thoughts vs. spitting them out when he has them)
On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good

rare that mafia actually takes pride in their reads
On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:
On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts


Almost caughtup.

I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous.


Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game.

smart post. isn't that the gold standard for reading superbia?

also feeeels
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 04:04 GMT
#662
ok now I focus on ec
On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 12:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 12:07 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:48 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 26 2016 11:14 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.


I'm saying that his style of play is not well suited to leadership.


Do you have a better option?


At the moment I think that tumble or super are better.


Are you comfortable with calling them almost-confirmed town? If so, what makes you think they're town?
Also, what kind of approach do you think they have which makes them suitable to be president?


No, I don't think I'm comfortable calling them almost-confirmed town at this point. But I put them in a similar boat with QT. I think they have a more stable, considering play style, whereas I find QT more erratic.
.

So, you're saying that QT, Tumble and Superbia are basically at the same level of towniness, is that right?

I'd like you to specify to me what exactly made you think they are town.


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.

these reads are not very thought out. you could press the button on generictownreadgenerator.com a few times and get the same results.
also his response to gb's questioning is pretty meh, just one step above picking a random post from super's filter.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2016 16:51 GMT
#883
trying to catch up but for every post I read two more pop up ahhhhh
GB is named VT? I'd rather have him as pardoner than mayor. Super / GB or Super / Jean seems optimal to me, maaaybe GB / Super or GB / Jean.
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