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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 14:12:12
June 17 2016 14:11 GMT
#83
i reserve the right to be afk for huge amounts of time though ^^

blackmailers >> having lexy plead your case for you
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:32 GMT
#100
i'm not sure what i am :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:35 GMT
#105
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D


he called me multiple things...and now he's lying on his bed pretending to be a stuck turtle o.0
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:36 GMT
#107
On June 18 2016 07:34 Shapelog wrote:
Were the hell is GB? I thought we were betting buddies?


so you should just buss so we can win, kk? ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:38 GMT
#111
On June 18 2016 07:36 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D

Lex is personally delivering it prob.

Rsoul, Can you dress him up in a mailman and post it on TL fourm as quick as you can?


o.0 we still have an ocean between us? why do you want him to be a mailman?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:38 GMT
#112
On June 18 2016 07:37 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D


he called me multiple things...and now he's lying on his bed pretending to be a stuck turtle o.0


What exactly did he call you?


well that wouldn't be a good idea lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:39 GMT
#114
On June 18 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:37 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D


he called me multiple things...and now he's lying on his bed pretending to be a stuck turtle o.0


What exactly did he call you?


well that wouldn't be a good idea lol


oh wait lol i thought we had a cop, disregard

i'm the jester!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:40 GMT
#116
On June 18 2016 07:40 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:39 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:37 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D


he called me multiple things...and now he's lying on his bed pretending to be a stuck turtle o.0


What exactly did he call you?


well that wouldn't be a good idea lol


oh wait lol i thought we had a cop, disregard

i'm the jester!


Lolgoon? :D


goon is one of my roles yup
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:43 GMT
#119
vig shooting me would be bad, yes :/ town instantly loses

so you should do it!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:44 GMT
#121
On June 18 2016 07:43 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:38 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:36 Superbia wrote:
Shape be honest, did you make that pre-made post before or after you checked your role pm?

After,

Was in name mafia thread when I saw the PM (role) and was confused. I was like "wait this shit is starting now" and I saw that post.

Might I inquire why?


Reasons!

No,

I answered, now you give me either why or I beat Ryan with this stick!

Either way I win so idc.
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:39 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:37 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D


he called me multiple things...and now he's lying on his bed pretending to be a stuck turtle o.0


What exactly did he call you?


well that wouldn't be a good idea lol


oh wait lol i thought we had a cop, disregard

i'm the jester!

So I can lynch you?


well it requires a memory longer than that of a goldfish and working fingers ^^ can you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:45 GMT
#125
On June 18 2016 07:44 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:43 Shapelog wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:38 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:36 Superbia wrote:
Shape be honest, did you make that pre-made post before or after you checked your role pm?

After,

Was in name mafia thread when I saw the PM (role) and was confused. I was like "wait this shit is starting now" and I saw that post.

Might I inquire why?


Reasons!

No,

I answered, now you give me either why or I beat Ryan with this stick!

Either way I win so idc.
On June 18 2016 07:39 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:37 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On June 18 2016 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not sure what i am :/


Check them PMs? :D


he called me multiple things...and now he's lying on his bed pretending to be a stuck turtle o.0


What exactly did he call you?


well that wouldn't be a good idea lol


oh wait lol i thought we had a cop, disregard

i'm the jester!

So I can lynch you?


I'm all for beating rayn with a stick :p


is it a raynstick?

[image loading]
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:46 GMT
#126
in other news, lex is a walrus with a degree...

impressive, no?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:47 GMT
#129
i'm bored ^^ i'll come back later when we can beat rayns with raynsticks of doom

ciao!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:47 GMT
#130
On June 18 2016 07:47 Superbia wrote:
rso are you trolly as town or mafia? 2lazy2checkmeta


both but especially as a jester!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 17 2016 22:49 GMT
#132
On June 18 2016 07:48 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 07:46 rsoultin wrote:
in other news, lex is a walrus with a degree...

impressive, no?

Yes yes,

But is he a fucking mailman?

I can work with a walrus mailman with a degree.


we laughed ^^ he may buy a mailman suit now, but only if you send him 20 euros to offset costs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 06:34 GMT
#171
-pokes a joni-

you missed the secret message...are you a pirate? o.O

-scuttles away-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 06:36 GMT
#172
also shape can be town ^^ at least for the night lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 14:11 GMT
#195
Lol nah rayn is actually giving me some town vibes with how he was talking to the newbie ^^

Tbf you usually do give your girl free passes though rayn so I can see why she'd key in on that

Hm...I wasn't ready to rule out super or anything but I didn't see anything particularly shimmy about his interactions with shape and myself raynstick man...he looked like he was actually trying to pull something out of the early interactions?

Did you see something specific that bugged you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 14:12 GMT
#196
On June 18 2016 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote:
I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp?

I mean this is Superbia's reasoning why Shapelog is town. Why so uncertain? The way he presents the argument suggests that he isn't even sure how Shapelog played in the game he is basing the meta on which then suggests that the whole argument is bs.


Oh lol ninja'd
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 14:19 GMT
#198
On June 18 2016 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you and i both know why i am hesitant to townread her because we just talked about it a day or so ago.


lol yeah i get it ^^ i'm just saying i can see why that's her focus since you have to admit it's abnormal for you not to just be like <3s cake! my cakey! so town the cake!

lolol >< lexy on the other hand seems perfectly capable of believing i'm evil...always...

bueno, i'm gonna let super answer your question/suspicion-y thingy...and when i'm done being lazy i maaaay try to figure out what read the newbie was referring to lol

half-awake! \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 14:50 GMT
#201
On June 18 2016 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i am not accusing her of having that view. I am just saying it's simply incorrect. If she chooses to believe that or not is up to her.

Although, i do not agree with the assessment of me being bad to read her. There have been exactly 2 games where Cake has been scum and i have been town, and once she was super obviously scum. The other time was the game where she was referring to where me and yamato read her as town because she called townies town and mafia mafia. That's usually a town trait yes? Calling the right people scum. Just because her and Moosy and to some extent Glowingbear decided to all bus each other from the beginning and there was no coordination between the scumteam. It's really hard to tell that kinda bussing from townie behavior. Every single other time i have correctly read her.

Sooo... I understand it can be a matter of me townreading her too easily, but it could also be that i am actually good at reading her. Trying to argue one or the other is right or wrong is just bs because there is simply not enough evidence.

This is to say that you should not write my read on her off as "you're bad at reading her", and you can keep me accountable of my read.


lol rayn ^^ i'm not writing off your read. i care more about how you get to reads and what you do with them, though

pues, tbh i don't know about yamato? he's not really a pocket read of mine, and i don't have a great record with him. like i can poke at him but i don't know if what i got would be anything that i could get a read off of lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 14:55 GMT
#206
On June 18 2016 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
pues, tbh i don't know about yamato? he's not really a pocket read of mine, and i don't have a great record with him. like i can poke at him but i don't know if what i got would be anything that i could get a read off of lol ><

Do you think it makes sense that he basically called us town and the sentence before said he thinks the game will probably evolve into one of me and you getting lynched?


lol we do have pretty recent history of tunneling the shit out of each other, and it could just be alluding to that? basically i have no reason to have a strong read on him one way or the other...which is why he hasn't made it into my list of people i don't think we should shoot

one thing that's bugging me was he was here but didn't seem to say much of anything, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 14:58 GMT
#209
On June 18 2016 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he is not calling us both town then why is he going to lose when one of us gets killed? Unless he ofc assumes he is mafia himself...


i get your point ^^ i'd be fine shooting him tonight lol but no, i'm not sure it's enough to make him definitively scum

let's see what he says! \o/

i'm more curious why cake has such a strong townread on him tbh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 15:04 GMT
#212
On June 19 2016 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That sounds like Waveofshadow dumbass "oh boy not this again" which brushes away a scumread for any reason on him. I mean, a weak way to brush off a read or make a conclusion on something based on things that have not even happened because "sometimes that has happened before".

bleh.. idk how to explain it really, hope you get what i am saying.


yeah i do lol he's on my LIST

you and shape are not

...

you should play heroes with me and lexy so he stops giving me the irritated why are you distracted when i'm TALKING TO YOU! look lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 15:05 GMT
#214
On June 19 2016 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Once more.

It's not a reactive read (which is what townies do), something happens -> you make a read out of it.
This is like proactive, "i assume something will happen so i am making the conclusions beforehand". That's what mafia does, or pushes. I think we can both agree that in case me and you are both town us fighting against each other is not productive. yamato seems to be saying he thinks both of us are town. Why is he trying to promote such atmosphere? I can't really think of any other reasoning for that post.


lol yeah i see what you're saying here...i'll kill a yama with you!

seriously though >> he's gonna eat me :/ and i haven't even had breakfast yet
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 15:05 GMT
#215
On June 19 2016 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nogames today. I don't like playing in hangover


;o; hearts?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 15:08 GMT
#217
awww okies lol ^^

i'll be back later then so i don't get lexy'd...i'd describe it but then you'd have nightmares

nightmares, i tell you!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 16:19 GMT
#223
-bobbles through the thread like a bobble-head doll-

jooooni don't let me forget about checking up on newbie dude...i can be forgetful ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 18:20 GMT
#228
On June 19 2016 01:28 CopCake wrote:
Hello rsoultin talk to me and tell me when you think rayn is mafia.


i don't think he's mafia ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 18:22 GMT
#229
On June 18 2016 20:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Tina = rsoultin.

Coolio
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On June 18 2016 15:36 rsoultin wrote:
also shape can be town ^^ at least for the night lol

This makes me think of my "he's not scummy (yet)" post from last game huehuehue


^ actually you can help me skynx a lynx...i don't know what you're referencing here lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 19:18 GMT
#234
On June 19 2016 03:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 20:11 Skynx wrote:
On June 18 2016 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Tina = rsoultin.

Coolio
On June 18 2016 15:36 rsoultin wrote:
also shape can be town ^^ at least for the night lol

This makes me think of my "he's not scummy (yet)" post from last game huehuehue


^ actually you can help me skynx a lynx...i don't know what you're referencing here lol


disregard...I found it -rolls around the thread-

what do you think about skynx, shape? I'm actually thinking the cluelessness looks a bit different from the newbie game but I only skimmed ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 19:58 GMT
#238
Lol I'm actually really cool with a vig shot between yama/cake right now ^^

Pretty comfortable w/ rayn/shape town and super and skynx feel townish to me, though those aren't the strongest reads
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 21:40 GMT
#246
nh...ye i thought about this, too, the whole try to kill town vs. try to kill scum thing, and tbh it's nice to have people going into d1 you have strong townreads on instead of kinda maybe leans and what if i'm wrong?! reads on...not sure if i'm making sense or not lol

like, on paper, odds are better but i don't believe that actually takes into account how reliable reads on the remaining players are likely to be

also, regarding super, joni...i could be wrong which is why i'm not grouping him with you or shape, but i just got this laidback inquisitiveness vibe from him when the game opened lol...so yay tonal thing

On June 18 2016 07:47 Superbia wrote:
rso are you trolly as town or mafia? 2lazy2checkmeta


On June 18 2016 07:51 Superbia wrote:
When rso gets serious I no longer want to read her posts iirc :p

#h8bigposters


it's an overall filter thing but these quotes illustrate what i'm talking about, i think. trying to engage and poke at things but not being all uber serious about it i.e. at ease

lol sorry that's the best way i can explain it

as for cake...idk it's less GOD SHE'S SCUM and more nothing that really makes me think town. like her poking at me to interact with her without really saying anything or prompting any sort of interaction? i make some allowances cause her English can get dicey but she's coming off flat to me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 18 2016 21:59 GMT
#249
that's fair ^^ we're celebrating father's day today so i won't be back till tonight

ciao folkets...though i do think we should all decide who we want to vig shot as if it were a lynch...i don't like this blind pm world stuff much
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
June 19 2016 15:17 GMT
#301
On June 19 2016 09:45 CopCake wrote:
Do you know why I asked that Rayn? Because you were saying you wanted to shot Rsoul.

Also Tina Why am I mafia?

I don't think you are mafia because you are being logical and I liked you said that my english get in their way but just tell me so I can clarify that.


PoE

i understand you fine lol. the comment was really more of a "i don't need cake to make perfect sense to feel comfortable townreading her" than "i can't figure out what she means"

i don't really find anything wrong per se with you picking out super and yama as your only reads when you first enter the thread, if you know anything new happened. but you really didn't do anything much with it. few reads, little progression, yama as a read at all is a bit mind-boggling too when that read settles on town cause he didn't do anything

basically your filter doesn't look like you're trying to solve the game at all even this late into n0 (especially if rayn isn't even a scumread for you because then i have no idea who you even are scumreading)




so i want cake or yama and i'm not too concerned which, though i disagree with super that yama is "obv" goon here lol >< i actually think it quite possible he could be gf to cake's goon and i'm just arrogant enough to think that my initial reads could actually all be right

everyone should commit to who we're willing to vote for btw

i think i'd prefer a yama shot for the above reason but am fine with either

(also, trying to ignore being on anyone's PoE list behind so many players phoning it in is haaaard even if i know that i get reads like that out of fear lolol ><)
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eh i'm not really feeling a sup shot, rayn. i get why you're gunning for him but i don't think he's scum lol i wish i could remember the name of the game but the one where he claimed blue and we lynched him anyway without a cc cause he was just THAT AWFUL when he was claiming no time?

yeah, his posts here aren't giving me the same vibe/feeling/etc.
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#336
On June 20 2016 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i still don't get why you ignore the evidence against Superbia.
I mean, i know where you are coming from, but like....
I don't see much sense in him not understanding where i am coming from with the thing on him, and i can't understand why he scumreads you for PoE when he already has 2 other scumreads, that doesn't make much sense to me. What else has he done?


Mmm. I ignore most disagreements based on misunderstanding cause that isn't alignment indicative. On phone or I'd go back to remember the disagreement I was ignoring lol something to do w/ whether or not he should be making a meta read when he can't remember the game.

Like tbh I sometimes remember what happened in a game but am not sure on the player, too, so that doesn't seem weird to me you know?

Regarding the scumread bit whatevs. He can answer that. I can see town doing it but don't want to explain why cause that gives him an out and my townlean is just that...a lean.

Why exactly is what cake said a dumbtell though? Like...saying you always buss in a game where the goon shouldn't buss doesn't strike me as a dumbtell. It strikes me as a stupid argument lol
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June 19 2016 17:21 GMT
#337
Btw I want 2/3 people to shoot from everyone in order of preference. That includes you cake.

Yam/cake

Not much time left to the night phase
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June 19 2016 19:28 GMT
#352
I want to shoot who I think is scum, super. Simple as that. Obv goon will want to protect gf but that doesn't mean whoever rolled gf automatically is going to play well, now does it?

All it means is that if we end up shooting the goon whoever pushed it gets no towncred.
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June 19 2016 19:47 GMT
#374
...lol like I was going to say that if I was going to shoot my top town read it would be rayn...as sarcasm to show how retarded that line of thinking is

If we're honestly going to play the by russian roulette best chance for a random scrum lynch d1 game just shoot me and let scrum shoot rayn

Then you guys can sift through what's left and we'll see what the roll of a dice gets you
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June 19 2016 19:51 GMT
#377
Like if this is a last ditch effort by goon sup to protect a gf yam I mean...maybe that's what makes the most sense cause if you're lucky enough not to be shot yourself he won't get auto lynched

Maybe we should shoot you just to see if you're desperate goon or really this much of a twit as town

Shooting rayn is pretty damn retarded
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June 19 2016 19:55 GMT
#382
Add sup to my shots list @.@ still doing fathers day things but I'll be around more consistently later

As for cake it's cause she's underwhelming but irk I even want to push that still so I'll get back to that later one way or the other
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June 19 2016 19:58 GMT
#388
...ok that could actually be a dumbtell lol
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June 19 2016 21:06 GMT
#413
yeah i'm here

i think i'd rather shoot yamato based on assumptions that i can trust my own reads lol >< but i can agree to super, too

i think if super is scum here he's almost definitely goon to yama's gf, though, or he's running an excellent play to try to get people like me to think that by drawing a shot and implicating yama in the process

also, regarding the question about cake, skynx, it was that her reads were super (ok given he was one of the most active) and yama (???) and then it took a really long time for anything else to develop from her. kinda thinking rayn was right about the dumbtelling, though. she's almost too clueless about the mafia team comp to be scum and it's enough to make me want to back off and see what she comes up with

ftr i'm not convinced that super is scum. i do think it's actually possible for him to be town here and he's just being superbly (haha xP) obtuse with this "we should try to shoot town" line of his. HOWEVER i really don't think this play can come from a super gf either defending town against rayn to get towncred (kinda dumb if he knows rayn at all, cause rayn's reaction to such things is super predictable) or worse trying to protect goon yama cause yeah that's retarded for gf to do here

which is why i'd prefer a yama shot

as for shape...i think i need to revisit him and make sure i still think he's town
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June 19 2016 21:11 GMT
#414
nah, still good with shape lol

he hasn't done a ton but the prodding at super about the townread and analyzing which emoticons i'm using from him are more likely town. only caveat to that is if he did happen to be goon here his main tool from his mafia playbook would be gone which might actually make his play look more townie. but the still lands townside for me att
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#418
On June 20 2016 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is that if Superbia is town yamato can be anything but if Superbia is mafia yamato basically has to be mafia. I'd rather not explain yet but i will if i must.

rsoultin read my post after yamato's list. Maybe scum just fucked up.


lol i think i already did it for you tbh but i understand. i think it's more important to get a vig shot for town than to quibble over it anyway. independently i have a stronger scumread on yama, which is why that's my preference

i'll vote for super though no prob ^^
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June 19 2016 21:16 GMT
#419
sides it would prob be good to know whether super's just being obtuse or not ^^
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June 19 2016 21:17 GMT
#420
sent in a super shot. we need one more

skynx, shape?
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#423
On June 20 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote:
Meh i think super is goon trying to take a shot for yamato


i think that's more likely

on the plus side, if he flips goon that makes d1 pretty easy ^^
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June 19 2016 21:24 GMT
#425
seriously, i'm up for yama or super we just need four

and if y'all want to talk about an alternative, i'm open to discussion, too. the most important thing though is that we get it cause i feel that if all we get out of tonight is the scum shot our chances of winning this game are very low. the info is super important
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June 19 2016 21:33 GMT
#430
ciao skynxy
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#434
lol is it bad that my first thought was shape could be scum for that shot? lol
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June 19 2016 22:05 GMT
#436
okay so i'm getting back to father's day now

so i'm not sure if that nk means crazy shape or that i should be wary of rayn, but either way it doesn't make a ton of sense...like theoretically if super is goon it would make the most sense to leave yama alive cause he should be an easy ml after

:/

anywho, bbl
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June 20 2016 05:27 GMT
#447
so yeah i really am no closer to figuring out why anyone regardless of who they were would shoot yamato here...i thought about rayn but tbh i doubt he'd be scared of shooting someone else despite being townread and i still don't see scum in his posting at all

logically getting super killed and leaving yama alive is just the obvious best move here. super definitely knew what was going on with the setup so i doubt his scum partner was completely oblivious...

which leads me to the only logical explanation being scum stacking a shot on who they thought would get vig shot by town, and if they thought that that person was yama that points heavily toward someone afk

my money's on shape. it helps that he's also like the only one i know here who actually thinks that making confusing night kills is a better strat than just removing the obv players who are 1) widely townread and 2) can solve the game
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June 20 2016 18:18 GMT
#468
nh

i'm doing that thing again where i just can't understand the possible scum motivation for shooting yamato when super is being voted for vig shot in thread

i can't definitively say that i believe cake and skynx are cleared here (and part of me cringes at the idea of possibly being wrong on rayn but honestly i'm just never gonna vote him this game cause i'd like to trust my read on him lol ><)

but just the idea of scum willfully and knowingly voting for super WHILE shooting yamato while they could change it, or vote for someone else, idk. i just don't think that ever happens here

i don't want to be wrong, rayn, but i have a hard time seeing anyone but an afk shapelog being scum with super here. it's just such an unnecessary thing for scum to do. like we can argue that it's confusing as shit to have a yamato shot here until the cows come home, and it is, and it does make my brain hurt a bit...

but i just don't see why scum ever goes through the effort here to make it more difficult to win just cuz. like i don't think cake does this, and i don't know skynx, but i do know that he was at least present enough to vote for super and seemed to understand what we were thinking so unless he's the sort to think it would be stylistically cool...

the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot
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June 20 2016 18:29 GMT
#469
On June 20 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote:
Meh i think super is goon trying to take a shot for yamato


Yeah, skynx definitely understood where the lynch was likely to go if/when super flipped goon

-pokes at skynx-

the reason you thinking yamato was goon beforehand doesn't make you town, skynxy, is godfather would know who the goon was. that's what rayn is getting at

anyway, i'd like to hear from people, especially if y'all think my reasoning's flawed
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June 20 2016 19:31 GMT
#474
ah, yeah, true, i suppose there could be a scramble omg so-and-so will vote for me, especially from a newer player

it's not the most logical approach but that's bitten me in the ass before with tumbleweed lol that's why i'm trying to get people to give input, too. i want different perspectives...in most games i'm dead before being wrong can lose us the game lol >< or have had enough lynches to get out of my wrong tunnels by you know >> mislynching my mistakes

like if it were lightning round, tina chooses the lynch, i know where i'd be ^^

but since we're talking about investigating other avenues while we have the time, skynxy, pretend i'm not a gamer (and compared to the rest of y'all i pretty much am not) and explain that meta kill comment you made to me in non-nerd terms? i'd like to know what you think about the shot
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June 20 2016 20:11 GMT
#486
i'm certainly arrogant enough to think i can pull out the game here with or without yamato lined up as a mislynch, particularly given the state of the game

i am not, however, given to needlessly complicating a game. for one, rayn can flip on me at any moment for saying something "stupid" lol >< and secondly my competitiveness generally doesn't extend to winning a game in the "coolest" way possible. i just like to win ^^

i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really

tbh shape i really have a hard time believing that anyone rereading the game OR my filter would have trouble following my line of thought but on the off-chance that you're town or that my impression is wrong, i'll indulge you:

1. gut said super was town for laidback inquisitiveness so i went with that
2. super's "we should kill obv town cause yama is goon" and push on rayn was retarded
3. i thought y'know i doubt he's this retarded, he's prob goon trying to keep us from shooting gf yama and winning the game...so we should prob shoot yama if i'm right
4. shooting someone is better than shooting no one and i'm fine with shooting super for the info if i can't convince people to shoot yama

-shrugs-

obviously i was wrong about yamato. i was however right that super is in fact not retarded lol >< seems i gave him too little credit, actually

if you have any further questions, ask
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June 20 2016 20:14 GMT
#488
On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote:
You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato.


your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying
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#492
On June 21 2016 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really

What does this mean in 5yr old english?


it means that i think you're town based on my usual method of reading you, which i've had a lot of success with

it means that objectively, the most townread player might choose to shoot someone who isn't because it would look weird for me to die over him

it means that despite that i trust my read more than the paranoid, maybe rayn shot yamato cause he couldn't shoot himself, thought

make sense?
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June 20 2016 20:22 GMT
#497
On June 21 2016 05:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 05:14 rsoultin wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote:
You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato.


your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying

My mind is creative and can create all scenarios and possibilities.


cake, the point is you're saying that i'm the most likely scum here because i KNEW that you might make a kill like that for the lolz and wanted to frame you

if that's your reason it's flawed because
1. i haven't tried to frame you. i am quite obviously scumreading shape
2. i actually don't know you well enough to predict your night kills. obviously this is something that i know and you may disagree with, but yeah...i actually said that i doubted you would do this. when this game is over and it's proven that i'm town, you'll see that it's 100% true and your impression of how well you think i know you is wrong lol ><
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#505
On June 21 2016 05:25 CopCake wrote:
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On June 21 2016 05:22 rsoultin wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:14 rsoultin wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote:
You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato.


your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying

My mind is creative and can create all scenarios and possibilities.


cake, the point is you're saying that i'm the most likely scum here because i KNEW that you might make a kill like that for the lolz and wanted to frame you

if that's your reason it's flawed because
1. i haven't tried to frame you. i am quite obviously scumreading shape
2. i actually don't know you well enough to predict your night kills. obviously this is something that i know and you may disagree with, but yeah...i actually said that i doubted you would do this. when this game is over and it's proven that i'm town, you'll see that it's 100% true and your impression of how well you think i know you is wrong lol ><

Probabilities of rayn doing this?




rayn is my top townread for how he is interacting with people this game. this is a read that i historically have a ton of trouble explaining, but to me a scum!rayn appears like a bully shouting at people to lynch someone while a town!rayn might be very opinionated, but is more collaborative...i.e. works with people or at least tries to

^ this method of reading him has not failed me if i recall correctly

but independent of that, his response to the nk was to say that you probably WERE NOT scum for the kill, just like mine. if scum is trying to frame you with it, they obviously can't be us

i think it's time that you drop the theory and try to think of the game without it revolving around you/framing you

and really, my main question to all of these theories is why would someone bother to frame either of you if they could just frame yamato?
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June 20 2016 20:36 GMT
#510
well i'll be honest i can't really discount rayn's comment about skynx...i'd like to hear more from skynx

the problem with shape's response is even though the simplest explanation is him, if he were town here somehow his thought process makes sense -shrugs-

anyway, off to lunch
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June 21 2016 05:34 GMT
#529
I'm finding the possibility of a scrum skynx more credible as time goes on ^^
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#538
On June 21 2016 19:27 Skynx wrote:
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On June 21 2016 03:18 rsoultin wrote:
nh

i'm doing that thing again where i just can't understand the possible scum motivation for shooting yamato when super is being voted for vig shot in thread

i can't definitively say that i believe cake and skynx are cleared here (and part of me cringes at the idea of possibly being wrong on rayn but honestly i'm just never gonna vote him this game cause i'd like to trust my read on him lol ><)

but just the idea of scum willfully and knowingly voting for super WHILE shooting yamato while they could change it, or vote for someone else, idk. i just don't think that ever happens here

i don't want to be wrong, rayn, but i have a hard time seeing anyone but an afk shapelog being scum with super here. it's just such an unnecessary thing for scum to do. like we can argue that it's confusing as shit to have a yamato shot here until the cows come home, and it is, and it does make my brain hurt a bit...


but i just don't see why scum ever goes through the effort here to make it more difficult to win just cuz. like i don't think cake does this, and i don't know skynx, but i do know that he was at least present enough to vote for super and seemed to understand what we were thinking so unless he's the sort to think it would be stylistically cool...

the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot

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On June 21 2016 03:29 rsoultin wrote:
On June 20 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote:
Meh i think super is goon trying to take a shot for yamato


Yeah, skynx definitely understood where the lynch was likely to go if/when super flipped goon

-pokes at skynx-

the reason you thinking yamato was goon beforehand doesn't make you town, skynxy, is godfather would know who the goon was. that's what rayn is getting at

anyway, i'd like to hear from people, especially if y'all think my reasoning's flawed

I think you're misinterpreting the scum plot here. Superbia was intentionally being scummy, he wanted to get shot. GF is someone pushing for Super shot and congrats now he's pretty much blend in. We lynched the goon and they killed the only other point of argument so we have no basis to work on basically.


Because we know that yamato was town and this is a more complicated path to the same end, basically. It's possible, of course, but at the end of the day it's simply less intelligent.

If yama were alive right now the likelihood that town ever lynches anyone else is very small. This d1 is, you have to see, hugely more unpredictable and therefore more risky for scum.

That said, you invalidated where my thoughts were going so... -shrugs-
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June 21 2016 15:36 GMT
#541
On June 22 2016 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i will be here in a couple of hours or so. I'll try to sleep a bit since i am really sick. How the fuck someone gets a flu in the middle of summer??

Skynx is probably not scum since he is not taking any outs he is being given here. If it's just super good mafia play then i tip my hat to him. More likely though he just genuinely believes in what he says and how he thinks the kill went off.


exactly this lol >< i expect scum who isn't being voted to either a) be less choosy in general and hemming/hawing over who to vote cause they honestly just don't care or b) pushing for the easy (and only really) alternative to their own lynch

skynx didn't

##vote Shapelog
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June 21 2016 16:20 GMT
#544
both super and you were demonstrably afk by the time the vig shot was shifting to super -shrugs- that's the crux of the argument against you, not that you would do this knowingly as scum

if you're town, the best thing that you can do is try to find scum and convince me that way, not make flawed defenses like this that honestly, to me, are flatly disingenuous

i understand how someone with such a good scum record can think that he's good at scum, but i personally have NEVER understood how you got away with it in the first place. lylo with all but confirmed blues is retarded. you got away with it precisely because that move is SO BAD people didn't think scum could do it. that doesn't make you a good scum player. it makes you a nutter lol ><

not that i'm complaining <3 i enjoyed that win. but no, i don't find your scum play impressive. and regardless, no matter what anyone's impression of your scum play is, a kill can't be changed when the scum team is afk. the theory is sound

focus on something else
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June 21 2016 16:35 GMT
#547
this game. you're arguing irrelevant points
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June 21 2016 16:53 GMT
#549
On June 22 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
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On June 22 2016 01:35 rsoultin wrote:
this game. you're arguing irrelevant points

this game, I am town folk looking for a dutch mailman on his way to deliver mail to his lover. Who was framed for the murder of said Dutch mailman, and now is getting unfairly chased by a girl with a wet noddle, who has finally caught up to me. Yet, I know if I go to jail, the real murder will walk away freely. So I must fight for my survival, and catch the perk.

Which one sounds more correct?


it sounds like you know what you have to do but still aren't doing it. believe it or not, if i didn't care about being right or not i wouldn't be pushing you this hard. i'd just let you babble about irrelevant things. i suggest that you find the "perk" as you say if you're town...while i'm willing to accept that i bear part of the blame in being wrong if we lose, your behavior today will not win you much sympathy from me

i'm giving you all the room you need and even trying to focus you. please use it. otherwise, feel free to continue blathering about nothing if you're scum ^^ that'll make it easier for all of us

i'm not going to prompt you again
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 17:04 GMT
#551
On June 22 2016 01:58 Shapelog wrote:
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i'm giving you all the room you need and even trying to focus you. please use it. otherwise, feel free to continue blathering about nothing if you're scum ^^ that'll make it easier for all of us

I am actually trying to build back my mood for playing mafia. My other game ended like right as I got on, and I am having probs. getting back in a mafia solving mood after it.


well, it's on you ^^; not trying to be bad, but the majority of what i've been doing all day phase is attempting to keep an open mind and get other opinions, because my gut and logic says it's you but i don't want to do what i did with tumblewood lol ><

idk how to help you get your mojo back other than by not burying you and actually considering what you say when you post so...yeah. bbl
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 17:52 GMT
#559
-shrugs-

you may be right, skynx. the thing i often say to the less experienced scum players on my scum teams is "never underestimate the town derp"

i've considered alternatives though and this is where i ended up. all i'm going to ask of you is to consider that you could possibly be wrong and evaluate shapelog independent of your theory which (you must admit) may or may not be correct

i have independent reasons to townread all three of you apart from just "sl makes the most sense as scum to me here"

rayn: town meta (we've played a ton of games together and i'm usually right on him)
cake: clueless (w/ super, i doubt she'd be that last on the scum comp)
you: not playing to win if scum

shape: ??????? only real positive i have for him is early game was more like his town meta, but rayn's right in that this is how he plays scum late game when he has no one to buss...just waffle everywhere and hope town derps
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 17:55 GMT
#563
On June 22 2016 02:48 Skynx wrote:
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On June 22 2016 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2016 02:30 Skynx wrote:
Vito Corleone: yo super my boy go act scummy so they kill you then we shoot Yamato so they start day from zero. I'm gona push you aswell so they don't suspect me one bit.
Superbia: Sure papa.

Shape can't be mafia cuz he'd be around for pushing super last minute. Or at least thats how i see things.

The problem with this is the following:
Let's say -3 is town victory and 3 is mafia victory on the scale. Why would mafia wanna start from 0 when they can start from 2? That is the crux of the argument.

Thats just another strategy of going about it. Super's behavior tells me that mafia just opted for this kind of play straight up. They could ve done what you suggested but Super would've played better if that was the case, least of all not attack you.


if yama flips town and we've vig shot him (which was where the game was at when super posted) where does that put him? it has super hard-defending yamato who was town...what would you think of his alignment then?
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June 21 2016 17:58 GMT
#565
On June 22 2016 02:53 Skynx wrote:
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On June 22 2016 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean Skynx, if that is your argument, i can tell you it only applies to you being mafia.

Because i know noone else in this game thinks so. Even if you think that's what mafia could have done it is 100% certain that noone else does (well Cake says she does but... even Superbia doesn't and as i said i dont think superbia would have let cake make that kill for your reasoning).


Noramlly scum kill people who:
1. are on the right track
2. are the biggest threat to your team
3. you can't lynch
4. blue reads (but that doesnt apply here)

Yeah i see where you coming from but sometimes i think throwing a curveball is a better play and the core mechanic of this play 100% suggest the kind of play im talking about.

Those 1, 2 and 3 you talking about are super hard targets to lynch and basically town has to decide lynching only 1 out of 5 where lot of people are like that. Mafia is basically forcing a logical shot by you on Shapelog because he looks the scummiest. I dunno thats the best i can explain my thoughts


we understand what you're saying. i personally just don't agree that this is the most likely scenario. plays like the one you're describing are generally made when scum is in a good spot...or so bad a spot that they figure they might as well go for the confusion play cause it can't get any worse
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June 21 2016 18:04 GMT
#567
anyway, i'm really just not inclined to change because of the reasons i have to townread the other players, and frankly regardless of shape's alignment it's pretty clear that he doesn't care who scum actually is since he can't be assed to put in the effort to help us find them

if he didn't have time and wasn't posting that might be different. rayn summed it up super well, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 18:05 GMT
#568
On June 22 2016 03:04 Skynx wrote:
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On June 22 2016 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i can't see anyone else being scum except for Shapelog here.
If you do, please do tell.

Cop is mafia. Think of your defence of her in your megapost last page with my pow.

One key point with that logic which suggests cop is mafia aswell is that mafia under no circumstances can afford Super not getting lynched cuz they would lose then. So GF has to be someone who doesn't even consider voting for someone else on eod. Check 2 pages before, her 2 short posts are declaring vote on Super with no compromise. Me, you and tina are struggling and in the end go for Super. Shape is absent cuz whatever.


why do you think mafia would lose if super wasn't vig shot?
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June 21 2016 18:09 GMT
#573
if yamato was double shot that has

4 town
2 mafia

in d1 lylo...that's a 1 in 3 chance of landing on mafia randomly and town has to be fairly coordinated/agreed on who they're going to lynch?

like yeah super was acting scummy you're right but he chose to, skynx. it wasn't until he came out hard-defending yamato and pushing the let's lynch rayn idea that a lot of people started wanting to lynch him, unless i'm misremembering?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 18:13 GMT
#577
On June 22 2016 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2016 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2016 03:04 Skynx wrote:
On June 22 2016 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i can't see anyone else being scum except for Shapelog here.
If you do, please do tell.

Cop is mafia. Think of your defence of her in your megapost last page with my pow.

One key point with that logic which suggests cop is mafia aswell is that mafia under no circumstances can afford Super not getting lynched cuz they would lose then. So GF has to be someone who doesn't even consider voting for someone else on eod. Check 2 pages before, her 2 short posts are declaring vote on Super with no compromise. Me, you and tina are struggling and in the end go for Super. Shape is absent cuz whatever.

The problem is why does Superbia make that play then?
Cake was not scumread, Superbia was not scumread by anyone except me.
Why not shoot me and be townread instead of making a play you don't even know will succeed?

How does shooting you gives towncred? Super was scumread by three including me you n tina, Shape likely to vote Super aswell beacuase of earlier beef.


no? my scumreads were cop and yamato...super's we should vig shot rayn as scariest town line was where i flipped
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 18:15 GMT
#579
anyway lol yeah rayn is right i should drop it, too -stretches- i don't really think that it's cake but i just want to ask you if you're very sure, rayn? cause yeah if it's skynx he's playing scum excellently here lol >< so i don't think i'm ever going to vote him
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June 21 2016 18:22 GMT
#583
On June 20 2016 00:53 CopCake wrote:
Also rayn you know i bus hard when i think clearly is 100% mafia and rn I will go Sup with it.


On June 20 2016 04:56 CopCake wrote:
Let me get something

Mafia godfather is the person that when a cop checks him gets he is town, that is what i know.

How does it work here if there is no cop?


On June 20 2016 04:57 CopCake wrote:
I wanna know if the role godfather works the same here as the one i am used to in other sites.


^ honestly this just wins major swag points if cake is scum this game lol >< she would have told us her plan directly plus played at being dumb about her own role
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 18:24 GMT
#584
yeah i think i'm comfortable w/ my vote. i'll bebop by closer to deadline to see if anyone comes in with a EUREKA! point that just makes my head spin and makes me worship them as the god of all mafia >> (or, you know, mentions something i missed lol ><)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 21:10 GMT
#608
nh just let him post, rayn...he was working toward an rsoul is scum post anyway and i was curious how he was gonna play that off beyond "i'm not mafia so someone must be trying to frame me"

at least then we can evaluate it lol sides you're sick. hi cake ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 21:14 GMT
#612
On June 22 2016 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is there is no time to properly discuss anything he will post.
Either we believe right now he is scum or some dumbasses will yolo-vote onto something else for flimsy reasoning.


that's true. on the plus side, his current trajectory limits that possibility more than normal lol ><
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June 21 2016 21:14 GMT
#614
if he's town than psh whatever he should learn how to play
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June 21 2016 21:15 GMT
#616
On June 22 2016 06:14 Shapelog wrote:
TBF,
I did start working thru this 2 hours ago roughly.

So 3 hours at least.


go finish
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June 21 2016 21:25 GMT
#621
On June 22 2016 06:22 CopCake wrote:
Tbh is strange i mean

There is something fishy here.

shape was afk right? Is impossible for sup to had decided the shot on yamato, so the yamato shot was made by someone smart i think, not exactly a newbie, a newbie would freak out and kill the most dangerous member, not the inactifag, << sorry yamato you are not a fag but i am used to that kind of language in mafia.

Why kill yamato?

Why not kill rayn who was right about super?

That is the real question.

Unless the kill artanis did was random because the killers didnt apply a kill? Idk?

Could yamato be killed for inactifagging?


bh would've modkilled you for that already
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June 21 2016 21:37 GMT
#630
yeah we get one lynch cake lol ><
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June 21 2016 21:37 GMT
#631
if you're talking about the game that rayn is still in the doghouse for -kicks rayn- i was mislynched -kicks rayn again-
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June 21 2016 21:44 GMT
#640
On June 22 2016 06:43 CopCake wrote:
Is rayn, shape stynx

Mmmmmmmmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


o.0 lol are you saying you're not sure who is scum between the three of them right now?
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June 21 2016 21:50 GMT
#651
On June 22 2016 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2016 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
On June 22 2016 06:43 CopCake wrote:
Is rayn, shape stynx

Mmmmmmmmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


o.0 lol are you saying you're not sure who is scum between the three of them right now?

I am thinking rsoultin pros and cons.

I mean remember rayn said are you mafia with cop and rolled in a girl team?


mhm...that interests you why?
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June 21 2016 21:51 GMT
#653
On June 22 2016 06:49 Shapelog wrote:
I mean,

Everytime I say something to you, you just cite that basically so idc anymore.


pst you called him scum. what do you expect?

"oh shapelog you're right! i concede!"

i kinda got lost in that since it was mostly quote, babble...eh

can you condense it to points for me?
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June 21 2016 21:55 GMT
#659
On June 22 2016 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let me just say that every single thing that Shapelog says makes me mafia (those things are actually either misrepresentations of what i was doing or not alignment indicative at all) are from the time (day 1) which after that he was posting for 24 hours but somehow originally came to a completely different conclusion (rsoultin or cake is mafia -- me as third).

If he was town he would have made the conclusion he now presents back then, and not 10 minutes before deadline.


dude if you weren't sick i'd so vote for you for the lolz >> teehee

sadly even i would think that would be too bitchy with flu-rayn
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June 21 2016 21:56 GMT
#662
On June 22 2016 06:54 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2016 06:51 rsoultin wrote:
On June 22 2016 06:49 Shapelog wrote:
I mean,

Everytime I say something to you, you just cite that basically so idc anymore.


pst you called him scum. what do you expect?

"oh shapelog you're right! i concede!"

i kinda got lost in that since it was mostly quote, babble...eh

can you condense it to points for me?

I meant before I call him scum.

But this is the most of it.

I find his reaction after the yammty flip sus. due to his tone. After you suggest me with the shot, he went "Hmmmm intresting , be back tomorrow." Which I find weird considering how I think Town Ryan would handle it. I would expect him to question you off of that at least.

Then there is how I think he was trying to play the Yammty post to confirm him as town due to how he said it.

There is more too. I don't honestly feel like quoting it.


eh lol the yamato thing is cause lex pre-rolled us both mafia then trolled us with it. message in a booottle baaabyyy...i wanted to see his reaction
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June 21 2016 21:58 GMT
#666
oh no he's writing up end game o.0

ftr rayn if you're scum here...gg

actually, everyone, gg ^^ regardless. cake was super swag and skynx you played an excellent d1

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#672
lol fuck
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June 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#674
so basically i should have bitch-voted you rayn
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 21 2016 22:03 GMT
#683
On June 22 2016 07:01 Shapelog wrote:
GG,

I blame myself.



aw psht i was eating out of rayn's hand all game don't worry about it

leaving it this late didn't help you but i knew you were in a tough spot if you were town
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Last Edited: 2016-06-22 21:52:15
June 22 2016 21:47 GMT
#727
lexy says the urine he drinks is cleaner than the urine i drink

...

>>

i want to know why he cares...we're all drinking urine \o/

this is definitely related to this game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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June 22 2016 21:53 GMT
#728
oh he says i should comment on something related to the game to get people talking about it

[insert positive? feedback here]
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