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On June 10 2016 01:46 GlowingBear wrote: I would in, but the probability of rolling msfia is too damn high, and I don't want go ruin my highscore :/ I'll put my 100% win rate as scum on the line if you do. | ||
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/in Prediction, We both roll scum | ||
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On June 10 2016 05:46 GlowingBear wrote: I'm counting on it 😂 And I'll roll godfather and someone will shoot me to have the chance to ruin my highscore and the game will be over. GG Well now art is def. making us Scum. EDIT: don't worry, I just thought of the bust scum tatic | ||
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You might want to just check with everyone to see if the weekend is ok for them, since if it fills tomorrow, it will be mostly on the weekend. | ||
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On June 10 2016 10:36 iamperfection wrote: isnt town worst off by killing the goon on night 0. In fact shouldn't mafia just kill their own goon night 0? That actually was what I was referring to as I found a scum play :/ I guess the problum is, is that town can actually just keep that person alive and lynch him Day 1 for the win. I actually am a bit amused that everyone is talking about the best plays for both sides in the pregame. | ||
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On June 11 2016 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: If the game is imbalanced it should be sorted out in pre-game. There is no reason to let the game roll and make players play / use time on a game that is unwinnable (or almost unwinnable) for one side. Like i said, if people wanna play a game where town has basically 2 lynches to first figure out 2/7 chance of hitting scum and then 1/5 (assuming scum could even shoot themselves) that gives town 42,85% chance of winning the game with randomly lynching/shooting someone. Do you think it is fair for mafia? I don't. No, its not. I have a question, Couldn't town force all the players to say who they are going to shoot, and then make a VC (unofficial) and purposely make it tied? Then, if the first person to vote gets lynched, you know that the 3 people on it are all town. If it doesn't, you know that at least 1 out of the 3 people on that wagon are scum. In senerio 1, Town gets to operate off of 3/5 or 2/5 confirm town lynch pool. Making the pool either 2 (which would be both mafia) or 2 mafia + 1 townie. In Senerio 2, Town knows that at least 1 person out of three people are scum. Assuming that indeed only 1 is scum, and none of the 3 are killed. Town also would have the 3 people on the second wagon as confirm town (if they won acourse). Town has a lynch pool of either the 3 people in the top lynch (it being 1/3) or, if the person who voted off wagon is still alive, a 1 person lynch pool. | ||
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Making people not able to vote for themselves also doesn't seem to fix that either. As you just get the 2nd most scummiest person to vote for the top scummiest person and vice versta. If top person dies, town goes into now normal Day 1, with a confirm person. If not, then obv. the 2nd person is scum. If it goes too the 3rd person voted, both are scum. Perhaps the fix is to make it to where scum vote's count for the vig. this also help to prevent the random 1/7 chance, since mafia can mutilate it? | ||
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But yeah, that is what I am thinking as well. All players should have a vote that is worth it, due to mass vote claiming. | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:36 GlowingBear wrote: Night Vigi majority? I don't get it. Majority for the vote instead of instant or what ever it is called. | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Shapelog just confirmed, starting now anyway! Role PM's going out. Right now? Ok... Let me get beer's for everyone. | ||
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1. Superbia 2. raynpelikoneet 4. Yamato77 5. rsoultin 6. CopCake 7. Skynx 2 of you are mafiaaaaaaaa. Lets see, we got Super, anti-koshi in the sense he rarely rolls town .....Ryan Yammy...Noir savior the evil R-rated girl (host is her lover, possible scum) Copcake, Sounds like a name for a prono Skynet, operational? God everyone is a suspect | ||
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Lex is personally delivering it prob. Rsoul, Can you dress him up in a mailman and post it on TL fourm as quick as you can? | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:36 Superbia wrote: Shape be honest, did you make that pre-made post before or after you checked your role pm? After, Was in name mafia thread when I saw the PM (role) and was confused. I was like "wait this shit is starting now" and I saw that post. Might I inquire why? | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote: o.0 we still have an ocean between us? why do you want him to be a mailman? ik, He is driving his snow covered mail truck from the netherlands, trying to get you your role PM! He has to overcome Frostbite, American tourist, and worse of all, a french guy name RELS. Then you too meet, and he gives your role PM, and it is all dramatic and stuff, and then BOOM. Out of no where, a vig shoots you in the head. He falls onto his knees and screams NOoooooooo. He then unleashes his certain skills and kills the vig via MK. At least that is what I make of the script for this movie. I need him as a mailman to see if it will work. | ||
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No, I answered, now you give me either why or I beat Ryan with this stick! Either way I win so idc. On June 18 2016 07:39 rsoultin wrote: oh wait lol i thought we had a cop, disregard i'm the jester! So I can lynch you? | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:43 rsoultin wrote: vig shooting me would be bad, yes :/ town instantly loses so you should do it! I challenge you to a children's card game..... | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:44 rsoultin wrote: well it requires a memory longer than that of a goldfish and working fingers ^^ can you? Now this really sounds like a Porno called Cop cake. | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:46 rsoultin wrote: in other news, lex is a walrus with a degree... impressive, no? Yes yes, But is he a fucking mailman? I can work with a walrus mailman with a degree. | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:47 Superbia wrote: rso are you trolly as town or mafia? 2lazy2checkmeta Shes was quite lazy last time she played mafia with me. Kinda trolly, but not this much. Idk, prob. better to read her off something other then lawls. On June 18 2016 07:49 rsoultin wrote: we laughed ^^ he may buy a mailman suit now, but only if you send him 20 euros to offset costs I need information lady. Where Can I hit up his account? | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:51 Superbia wrote: When rso gets serious I no longer want to read her posts iirc :p #h8bigposters Rso gets seroius? That's a thing? Anyways, Super! Lets go back to reasons (mainly to start the game actually) You said reasons, can you expand? | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote: #prodderinos I am guessing this is in respone-ino to my question-ino. What-ino were-ino you-ino prodding-ino me-ino for-ino and-ino what-ino were-ino you-ino looking-ino for-ino? Ino? ![[image loading]](http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/8/89/Ino2.png/revision/latest?cb=20140323175859) | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:47 rsoultin wrote: i'm bored ^^ i'll come back later when we can beat rayns with raynsticks of doom ciao! You now, and this is prob. useless. But being bored and ^^ing is not something I expect someone bored to do. Like "Well I am bored :/...." Not "I'm bored ^^" Emjoi tone is off. On June 18 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote: Going to sleep soon btws, just lurking a bit and watching doto esl replays Screw sleep. Also doto? Is that like Go but a moba? | ||
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On June 18 2016 08:05 Superbia wrote: fuck now everyone can read it ;; OH yeah, I fucking spoiler would stop everrrrrryone but me from seeing it. Why is it bad for everyone to be able to read it? + Show Spoiler + Arggggg? | ||
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So it is like Go, but more RPGish then moba like? I mean, If it doesn't have at this point dragons, then I am going to be pissed. Or is their a Esport that plays about Doto the organism? According to google, It is a genus of dendronotid sea slug, a nudibranch in the Family Dotidae. This genus feeds on hydroids, as reflected by its serrated radula. Doesn't sound interesting. Not as interesting as underwater basket weaving def. Why are your watching slugs Super? | ||
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On June 18 2016 08:09 Superbia wrote: ok srsly though I kinda wanna stop trolling but I think you're town and no one else is here z Then lets stop. ... Boring. But why do you already have a town read on me? What have I actually fucking done? Do you have a mailman fetish? | ||
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On June 18 2016 08:11 Superbia wrote: =dota I would watch slugs over that anyday. Also if you do have a mailman fetish, I got this picture of a dutch mailmaner coming in the mail. Only 21 euros! | ||
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On June 18 2016 08:13 Superbia wrote: I have played with you=scum before rite? storm mafia thingy? Where I was 3rdp? Yes? How does that lead you to believe I am Town? | ||
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On June 18 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote: ya p sure Hear that Art? You now in the porn industry! | ||
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Be back tomorrow | ||
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On June 18 2016 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean this is Superbia's reasoning why Shapelog is town. Why so uncertain? The way he presents the argument suggests that he isn't even sure how Shapelog played in the game he is basing the meta on which then suggests that the whole argument is bs. The way it read off to me was that he was being like "From that game. Where you were scum? and I was 3rdparty? Thats why motherfucker." It is weak reason though, not for the fact that he doesn't remember or what not, but because why not quote when I played town with him (even tho i was smurfing)? Why not that. Also, what about that game makes him think I am town and not scum. That is why I think it is a tad bit weak. | ||
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On June 19 2016 00:40 CopCake wrote: Huh, I am town. Shape whatever gave me bad vibres because he is trying to be funny and feels comfortable with the people around even if sups hasnt or has barely played with him (she said it) and anyone who uses naruto is evil even with the inos. Sups tone doesnt feel fake, feels normal I think Yamato wants to look at us like a kid looks at a fishtank or that is the impression i got. I mean he(her?) has played 2 games with me, 1 scum, 1 town. So this is my third game. I mean, why else would he(her) try to meta read me, if they haven't played enough games with me? What about a fishtank and kiuds? That doesn't work out too well in my experience. Also @I think Ryan, People say I have a hard time starting, yet, at least as a poster, I don't. I usually have a BAD start post, but I have no trouble posting or starting as either alignment IMO. | ||
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On June 19 2016 02:09 yamato77 wrote: My post was more an existential crisis than any attempt at forming a read. I'll be around later. So do you think they are town/what are your reads on them? | ||
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On June 19 2016 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I believe we talked about that in some games obs qt no? I remember you having hard time to figure out what to look for early (not really hard time posting in itself) and i think that shows. I mean as scum i have recently noticed you are ... How to say it... You look more informed than as town, in a sense that as scum you "know what to talk about" and i feel like you are not just trying to figure out things from scratch. And i think it is definitely different here. I have a hard time finding what to do and go after in the first few days. yes. I thought you meant as a 1st post, as I know people like tumble and others have committed based off of 1st entrance posts. I would agree I know what to do more so as scum then town. Mainly it is easier for me to paint people scum, then to figureout why they are scum for what they posted. My mistake On June 19 2016 04:18 rsoultin wrote: disregard...I found it -rolls around the thread- what do you think about skynx, shape? I'm actually thinking the cluelessness looks a bit different from the newbie game but I only skimmed ^^ Honestly, it is too early (as in, not enough stuff in the thread) for me to compare it. Newbie-student-mafia XXI had a very strong start, with a lot to go off of. This doesn't. If we weren't to take that into consideration, then he is townish for actually not pushing a agenda via the means of big posts and trying to actively paint people as scum early on. But for me, he is null for right now. | ||
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On June 19 2016 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx can be town too. I'll explain when sauna is over. Why are you in a sauna? Are you trying to get slimer to audition for my Mailman movie? If so, I let you know that all they do is slightly burn you, and only maybe take 2 pounds off. | ||
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On June 19 2016 04:58 rsoultin wrote: Lol I'm actually really cool with a vig shot between yama/cake right now ^^ Pretty comfortable w/ rayn/shape town and super and skynx feel townish to me, though those aren't the strongest reads I can understand yammy, but can you restate why cake is? Also, This is something kinda debatable I been wanting to ask. Should we actually keep Someone we think is scummy alive? Should we risk it? The Postie is that if we are right, we win the game. The negative is that if we wrong we lose, and it be harder to admit we are wrong about (as mafia in this case would be pushing us to lynch X) What do you think about it Rsoul/anyone else? | ||
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On June 19 2016 05:41 Skynx wrote: I was actually thinking about this. Shooting town N0 increases chances of picking mafia for lynch from 16% to 33%, meanwhile 1 wrong vote means loss. Would scum wanting to both vote for same person make them stick out is what I'm really wondering tho. Not if the thread thinks the person is scum. Mafia would blend in. On June 19 2016 05:42 Skynx wrote: Perfect! That had some context and i didnt feel like linkinh the whole thing. Huh? I am confused about this sentence now? I think Skynx is town because when i "pushed" him for reads he didn't make anything up. I would expect that a newer player as scum would have felt the need to give me something so they don't look like a "non-contributor", especially when i had JUST made a set of posts where i clearly imply at least i have something to work with in the game. He could have jumped on yamato, Superbia, or even rsoultin (the read i hadn't clarified yet) or question me about those reads (especially the rsoultin one). Basically the only way i see him being mafia atm is if he is mafia exactly with rsoultin and rsoultin is the GF. But first of all i don't think rsoultin is mafia and second the whole thing is so far fetched i am not going further into that since there is no reason to assume that and the easiest explanation is that he is just town. To Shapelog. Technically the correct play is what you were asking yes. The problem however is that in case we miss shooting the GF the bias is basically gonna be too much and we end up deciding the lynch in the first 48 hours, which is also bad. We should be aiming for the GF ofc, but just because someone is "too scummy to be GF" they should not get a pass. I think it's best to just play it straight up and shoot a scumym person and then lynch another scummy person based on more evidence. Cute tricks usually end up fucking the town more than they are gonna achieve. Just keep it simple. You might be right about skynx, I might move him up the list a bit. Yeah, the bias is what I partially worry about it. I feel like it would be a tad bit easy for mafia to take control of that and for it to snowball. | ||
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I just was able to get on about 4 mins ago. My keyboard was broken when I got home a hour ago, so I wasn't able to play. On June 20 2016 06:59 rsoultin wrote: lol is it bad that my first thought was shape could be scum for that shot? lol I had to look at my Role PM just to make sure lol. But in all seriousness, I had nothing to do with shooting Yammty, and wouldn't. If I was scum, I would of taken the easy ML (going off of what rsoul last post said, due to me being absent) since my 3 for 3 scum streak is alive. I read/catch up now | ||
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On June 19 2016 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Shapelog. I just revisited your filter and it doesn't actually look as good as i remembered.  I have a hard time figuring out where you actually stand with your reads. You seem to be thinking i am town, Skynx is town and rsoultin is town(?), who is scum? You didn't visit my filter the first time IIRC. I thought the town read was based on my entrance, which later is what you and super discussed. Which ironically flipped scum. Lol. weak town lean on skynx. Only reason is for what you said. I still find him a bit nullish at the point. Rsoul wasn't a strong town read either, maybe a town lean at best. I was kinda faint sus. on both yammty and cake. cake was for just being really serious all the sudden, and Yammty just for that thing. I was waiting for the game to develop quite honestly. But that is the past! On June 20 2016 00:22 rsoultin wrote: eh i'm not really feeling a sup shot, rayn. i get why you're gunning for him but i don't think he's scum lol i wish i could remember the name of the game but the one where he claimed blue and we lynched him anyway without a cc cause he was just THAT AWFUL when he was claiming no time? yeah, his posts here aren't giving me the same vibe/feeling/etc. Ironic given post shot results I actually do not know if I should be looking for people for if they wanted to or not to shot super. I guess actually I want to look at people IF they wanted to shot super, since super was goon, and it would benefit them more. Which fits: On June 20 2016 00:53 CopCake wrote: Also rayn you know i bus hard when i think clearly is 100% mafia and rn I will go Sup with it. On June 20 2016 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin i still don't get why you ignore the evidence against Superbia. I mean, i know where you are coming from, but like.... I don't see much sense in him not understanding where i am coming from with the thing on him, and i can't understand why he scumreads you for PoE when he already has 2 other scumreads, that doesn't make much sense to me. What else has he done? I'll work out that tho later on, after I catch up towards the end. The ino guy sounded too forced to be cool and funny, fake. I have written remixs and children books as both town and scum. I actually kinda wondering about something. Forgetting that super flip scum, you were talking about something I said, and that super hasn't played more then a few games with me. Yet super, who has played more games with me, and is someone you did somewhat defended (softly) about a question IIRC said the opposite. Maybe you thought that since super was scum, that was invalid. I quote the post tho that I am talking about after this is done. Moving on, Skynx, Then this is abandoned to some chit chat . Later Supers tr on him he questioned but again no answer from Super but Shape looks comfy with it. Or am i reading too much into this? I questioned it brosike. I want to shoot who I think is scum, super. Simple as that. Obv goon will want to protect gf but that doesn't mean whoever rolled gf automatically is going to play well, now does it? All it means is that if we end up shooting the goon whoever pushed it gets no towncred. Wonder what changed from this post to this one: On June 20 2016 00:22 rsoultin wrote: eh i'm not really feeling a sup shot, rayn. i get why you're gunning for him but i don't think he's scum lol i wish i could remember the name of the game but the one where he claimed blue and we lynched him anyway without a cc cause he was just THAT AWFUL when he was claiming no time? yeah, his posts here aren't giving me the same vibe/feeling/etc. On June 20 2016 05:21 yamato77 wrote: I'll go out on a limb and say it's not worth shooting rsoul either I don't mind shooting cake for her weird read of me but I find it less satisfying than I would like Superbia's filter is the longest (except for rayn but he doesn't count) Skynx's filter is a lot of short questions Shape is inconspicuous Meh Was going to say something about yammty, but I forgot he flipped so lol. Rsoul, ftr i'm not convinced that super is scum. i do think it's actually possible for him to be town here and he's just being superbly (haha xP) obtuse with this "we should try to shoot town" line of his. HOWEVER i really don't think this play can come from a super gf either defending town against rayn to get towncred (kinda dumb if he knows rayn at all, cause rayn's reaction to such things is super predictable) or worse trying to protect goon yama cause yeah that's retarded for gf to do here I want to shoot who I think is scum, super. Simple as that. Obv goon will want to protect gf but that doesn't mean whoever rolled gf automatically is going to play well, now does it? All it means is that if we end up shooting the goon whoever pushed it gets no towncred. So flipply floppy on super Rsoul. One min he is scum, one he is not, one he is scum, but could be town. That basically is it. I do not understand why Rsoul is flippy so much on the super shot tbh. 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On June 20 2016 08:35 CopCake wrote: Lynch Shape, that last post is bad. There is no reason not to explain my darling. | ||
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On June 20 2016 07:17 Shapelog wrote: Lol Super rolled mafia yet again. Reverse Koshi indeed. I just was able to get on about 4 mins ago. My keyboard was broken when I got home a hour ago, so I wasn't able to play. I had to look at my Role PM just to make sure lol. But in all seriousness, I had nothing to do with shooting Yammty, and wouldn't. If I was scum, I would of taken the easy ML (going off of what rsoul last post said, due to me being absent) since my 3 for 3 scum streak is alive. I read/catch up now I mean, The only thing bad about this to me is my bad luck regarding my keyboard. | ||
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On June 19 2016 00:40 CopCake wrote: Huh, I am town. Shape whatever gave me bad vibres because he is trying to be funny and feels comfortable with the people around even if sups hasnt or has barely played with him (she said it) and anyone who uses naruto is evil even with the inos. Sups tone doesnt feel fake, feels normal I think Yamato wants to look at us like a kid looks at a fishtank or that is the impression i got. Before this, Super was town read/not sus for her. And Super was calling me town, for the same thing she saw scum in meh. | ||
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On June 20 2016 06:59 rsoultin wrote: lol is it bad that my first thought was shape could be scum for that shot? lol I'm thinking about something......... I sleep on it. Going to get off for tonight. | ||
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On June 20 2016 11:56 CopCake wrote: You are mafia, sorry it sucks. I am never serious and i have a bubbly personality and my mood never changed unless someone doesnt understand me for my grammar. You on the other hand from posting images of a bad anime show became a serious paranoid player. Maybe because I do not want to cause town to lose the game? Nice to see your also tunneled onto me for "forced joking." my money's on shape. it helps that he's also like the only one i know here who actually thinks that making confusing night kills is a better strat than just removing the obv players who are 1) widely townread and 2) can solve the game Not necessary. All my WIFOM night kills have some sort of agenda behind it. All the shots in storm after 3rd was killed was for the all blue lylo (minus LS, cause LS was actually on my tail). Usually, it is to push town into lynching a player, or I am setting up something to win. I plan my moves out as scum (all my scum games shows this, newbie 19, storm, and tortiuse (the unvote vote FF etc.)) I have no plan here. That is the deference. I explain more on what I think it means with this post from ryan. Shapelog's big post is all over the place and i have no idea what he is talking about in it. Suddenly everyone is scum? What? That was just my thoughts catching up, they were hasty due to me having another game's lynch (day 4) that I had to get to at 8. I am questioning everybody and pointing out anything I see scummy/something I want more info about. For example, I want to rsoul to explain the change, Get cakes feed back about the super sit. back, etc. I kinda am thinking (and I will admit cake, this might be paranoid) that the shot was a frame shot on me due to my meta. The prob. is that I cannot just go "Oh it is one of ryan/rsoul, due to them knowing my scum meta." because super was scum, and could of told either skynx or cake about how I shot. So I am basically questioning everyone, trying to POE. On June 21 2016 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you want to say something about this Shapelog? I actually find it quite hard to believe that you forgot, in 1 hour and 12 minutes, when you were doing a re-read, who flipped. Especially since basically yamato being shot is the "reason" you are being accused of being scum for -- or part of it. I was reading the game and saw one of yamato posts, was in a analyzing mode, analyzed it, and remembered that he died. Meanwhile, who did you vote Shapelog? No one. Wasn't here/able to type anything till my post after the shot had happen. What do think now that you have this information? the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot Annoying thing is, is that I cannot say that this is wrong, in the sense of it being the most simplest of explanations. The prob. is, is that I cannot follow it at all, as it is wrong due to the information I have with my PM. The most simplest explanation for me, is that I being framed via the shot. | ||
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On June 21 2016 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the important thing Shape. This is the answer you will give as either alignment most likely. But for the real answer. Who did it and where is the evidence for that? Well, there is a lot to consider about it. If we were to just razer it, rsoul fits it. As she has pushed it perhaps the most out of anyone about how it connects me to the yammty shot. She has admittedly, open out of the idea a little bit, yet still is focus on me on it. Rsoul knows my meta pretty well (actually PMed me in wonderful, asking if I was town due to how I was playing, which I was.) and has stated it. She was also pretty quick to tie me to it. It wouldn't be hard for her (or anyone who knows my meta) to make that shot and push. But it is more complicated if we look beyond the razer: -I first expect town rsoul to think like that, as she does know my meta. The shot highly looks like my handywork, and it would make sense for her to think me as scum for that shot. Though, this does mean, that I had to have broken my town meta admittedly for my earlier posts. -Second, Like I said in the last sentence, It wouldn't be hard for her (or anyone who knows my meta) to make that shot and push. And, since Super flipped scum, anybody could set that up. Super has played with me in storm, and that game is what makes the meta point strong. He already use the game to TR me inthread, so he did at least have the game in mind. I am guessing, only because of my position and common sense, that the shot had to be at-least planned a bit before the flip. Which could of been spent with super convincing his partner to shot yammty. If it had been lets say, cop or skynx that flip. I wouldn't have to consider point 2. As they do not know my meta. The second point is the biggest thing that is making finding evidence for it hard. But, I am thinking. Scum would want to push my lynch (hence one of the reasons why Rsoul by razer is correct here), so that eliminates skynx for the time being going along that logic. Dropping it to Cake/Ryan/Rsoul + Show Spoiler [About Skynx] + He isn't really at all the same as the newbie game IMO. I want to see how he is reading people as scum, but truth to the matter, is that if he is scum, he could of jumped on this by now. Hell, He SHOULD be on me like a hawk with the framing idea. Yet, he is mossying about, not really to quick to do anything. Out of the 3, Rsoul, Pretty much have said everything for her. Razer bit + point 1 here. It is still possible. Ryan: You have thought about it, but ultimately looking around at other people. You are not necessarily pushing it at all, at most discussing it. There is little reason for you to look at anything else really, as you basically win (expect to keep up activity.) in this serino. Maybe possible, but doubtful. Cake: She isn't pushing me for the meta thing, but is scum reading me hard. She starting with the scum read with the forced joking thing (which I am still awaiting for her to answer the question in the one post about super.) and in general just feels off putting. Not because I am being scum read, but the reasoning I am being scum read, and the responses. She is super tunneled onto me. However, oddly enough, she has suggested the same idea with the framing shot. Just for herself. On June 21 2016 05:04 CopCake wrote: Like the right answer here rn is that whoever shot Yamato is newbie or is me or is someone that knows me (pointing you and rsoul) On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote: You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato. Which I guess she suspects it is Skynx. Opposite of what I believe. This actually could also be another framing shot plan, just without me as the target and instead skynx. Since I haven't played with her, and I am not a newbie (actually, I think I am currently in my 12th and 13th game in total across all sites) I shouldn't be a suspect according to this I think? This came after the posts about me, so *shruggs* Outside of the framing idea, I kinda find it hard to read cake. Reading thru here filter, the super vote was a bit out of no where. On June 20 2016 01:17 CopCake wrote: Superbia sounded the most normal of all of you so she got green card. The ino guy sounded too forced to be cool and funny, fake. I didnt know how to take u and rsoultin because you wanted her neck. Yamato was null so i was like yeah at least he is more normal than the other three so more inclined to town. On June 20 2016 03:54 CopCake wrote: I am inclined to say yamato now for lack of interest but idk his irl. I am intrigued by rayn too. On June 20 2016 05:19 CopCake wrote: How do i send pms here? I will have to just repply artanis, casting vote on super. 2 hours from 1st to last. So, most likely with the framing idea. It is either Rsoul/or cake, with the very off chance that it is you. I might look at cake's filter from PYP, I think she was town that game? | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:15 CopCake wrote: Rayn you can like take every word i say with tissues because of my grammar, the person that killed yamato is either: - newbie - rsoultin or you - myself Obvs is not me because I am town. Lol, So I have to ask, Does this mean I am town to you? | ||
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tbh shape i really have a hard time believing that anyone rereading the game OR my filter would have trouble following my line of thought but on the off-chance that you're town or that my impression is wrong, i'll indulge you: 1. gut said super was town for laidback inquisitiveness so i went with that 2. super's "we should kill obv town cause yama is goon" and push on rayn was retarded 3. i thought y'know i doubt he's this retarded, he's prob goon trying to keep us from shooting gf yama and winning the game...so we should prob shoot yama if i'm right 4. shooting someone is better than shooting no one and i'm fine with shooting super for the info if i can't convince people to shoot yama You assume that I can read. Makes sense tho | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:28 CopCake wrote: Gut says no because of your entry and jokes and now u are all like serious bussiness. I do not want to lose the game for town. But, with your logic about who killed Yammty, do I fit it? This I want to know. | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:30 CopCake wrote: I mean I was tunneling you hard? Until I got asked why or who would shot Yamato. Fair point, I wrote that part of the post before I saw those posts. and really, my main question to all of these theories is why would someone bother to frame either of you if they could just frame yamato? Cause Yammty actually can play this game as town versus me (i do not want to say cake cuz idk her)? And I have a less likely hood of not convincing people? Cause Yammty saved town in Noir? *Cause remaining player knows Yammty for something they did as town? | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: So, rsoultin thinks mafia is Shapelog. Cake thinks mafia is Shapelog? I am about 55% Shapelog 44% Skynx, 1% Cake. Shapelog thinks mafia is rsoultin (or cake or Skynx??? i am not sure) I don't know who Skynx thinks is mafia. Skynx when you get back, who is mafia. Shapelog too. If you don't know who is mafia or cannot make an educated guess, i'd like more questionmarks in your posts. Rsoul/Cake, very off chance maybe you. Skynx for me is not sus. due to the point I made in that post. | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:34 CopCake wrote: Why would you to listen my theory if you dont know me? It is like you want me to focus on this and clean ur name instead of going to the logical way of solving this. What? What does me and your relationship have anything to do with that post? I want to know, if by that theory am I suspect and why? I am currently sus. of you, and want to understand your logic, cause I find it hard to read you. Ik you still scum read me for the reasons you listed, Nor do I suspect you to drop them. | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:42 CopCake wrote: Dude explain to me why would i know about Noir mafia and stuff if i dont read filters and give no fucks? Lol rayn and rsoul can tell you is true. I dont even read set ups. I did here because I got scared when rayn said "you dumbtell you are town" and maybe it was in the rules to not say you are town. I was giving my ideas (to rsoul, the last quote is her words) to why whoever is scum might of done it. You yourself have said why you could of done it. Same with me. I went with the idea she wanted to know why one of them would do so. | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shapelog have you looked at how the last ~5 hours of the night evolved? This is based on your theory answer. Yes and, On June 21 2016 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk where you get the "flip-flopping"... I missed read it. Rsoul already clear that up. On June 21 2016 05:48 CopCake wrote: Well i would wait for rayn or rsoultin to tell me "this shapedog is newbie or styx is pretty new" Because there are only two options in this from my point of view: Mafia is newbie super newbie Mafia knows me and wanted to frame me but as I said rayn is the type of person that loves to do logical things and rsoul well, she could be if the frame thing is real but i doubt it. The problem I have with you now is like you want me to clear you from a theory you dont even know if it is like logical, you dont know me and i could have made up that lol. I cant clear you, your actions do. Why do they have to tell you in particular? I am not trying to clear my name from you Via this. If I was, I would be focusing on more of the probs. you have with me in regards with the forced jokes idea. You already have posted that you think of me. The reason why I am interested in yours is that you are the only other person who suggested a frame shot. I am not sure what to make out of it rn in terms of your alignment, but it has interested me. On June 21 2016 05:51 CopCake wrote: Like at first i read superbia to be town because she seemed normal, your entrance was like too "friendly" jokes and with confidence, not caring, laid back. I read sup town for this and mafia to u. Then mafia passed and sup didnt act the way i expected (lol see the importance of playing with me) and said messes up shit like "kill the dangerous townie" that thing basically was a slip, "dangerous town" would be someone dumb not someone trying to solve the game. Alright about the change in super read. | ||
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I plan things out as scum. This is very fucking evdicent in the scum qt's of mine. Now, you can say all you want about me being AFK or what not, but I would of already have started to talk to Super about a plan of some sorts, or have detail what I wanted to do in day 1 (as I was being town read, and most likely scum!Shape would of thought he would of reached D1) and super would of known what I was planning. I also have a agenda that works with said plan. Tell me, what is my agenda here? Shoot Yammty, argue with people that I was frame and magically I will win? Especially with Ryan and Rsoul, who know me very well, being in the game? Not to mention, that I am super aware of how people see me as scum, and would of adapted to the situation, and not do something so stupid. I am not going to argue if Super would or wouldn't shoot Yammto cause I really do not fucking known period. It could be for Ryan's reasoning, it could be a frame shot (Since I was afk, and could be a target) etc. I have no evdince, unlike my meta point above, to based anything on, and am not going to lead this into a a WIFOM measuring contest. Yes, I am a cute scummer that likes cute plays sure. I also know how to play a soild scum mafia style as well, and would be doing so due to my reputation I built after storm. I am not dumb, hell, in name SL jumped me after my 1st few posts for being "cute". IK people know that I am known for this kinda Bullshit, and very few other people (certainly not anyone in this game, other then maybe cake, which I would've known anyways before shot) do what I am known to do. I mean, outside of the shot, why am I scum? I guess you could add my defensiveness to it, yet meta wise that can go either way. | ||
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On June 22 2016 01:35 rsoultin wrote: this game. you're arguing irrelevant points this game, I am town folk looking for a dutch mailman on his way to deliver mail to his lover. Who was framed for the murder of said Dutch mailman, and now is getting unfairly chased by a girl with a wet noddle, who has finally caught up to me. Yet, I know if I go to jail, the real murder will walk away freely. So I must fight for my survival, and catch the perk. Which one sounds more correct? | ||
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i'm giving you all the room you need and even trying to focus you. please use it. otherwise, feel free to continue blathering about nothing if you're scum ^^ that'll make it easier for all of us I am actually trying to build back my mood for playing mafia. My other game ended like right as I got on, and I am having probs. getting back in a mafia solving mood after it. | ||
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Professor Shapelog's Disco Read Party of Nonsensical Title, Followed by Dis-guesting Reads I've reread the game, looked through everyone's filter etc. Still working, Posting this just to have something out to be discussed. Page annalist: Game start - page 8, me, rsoul, and super. Jokes, Tr from Super on me Page 8 - Page end of 8, Ryan and Yammty enters Page 9- Yammty joke, Ryan wants tina killed, cake enters, questions ryan, Tr's Super and yammty. Vows to give me hell. Rsoul Tr's me, Skynx enters, Ryan responds to Cake with a question, Ryan questions Super's reason to TR me (weirdly not Rsoul's), Ryan question's Skynx Page 10 - Skynx answers no, states ]Super is simular. Ryan Responds to that, and his drunken ego. Ryan TR's me being town possibly, Cop responds with question to Ryan's question that was responding to Cops question that responded to ryan's question. Ryan responded with question, then asks another one about super/yammty town reads from cake. Cake states why (tone and yammty sounds better), Ryan disproves it, calls Super's logic weak for TR and explains how to TR yammty. Ryan with Cop read logic, Cop responds with Super seems normal, never scum read you. This is just getting to fucking long At this point. And am wasting my time just cataloging this shit. Lets look through the guy who flipped scum, like a smart person would. -----Super:
Alright, So Super (goon) had a huge range of different levels of interaction. To POE this and narrow this down, I am going to remove some people. Skynx: Not at all like how he was in the newbie + Could of jumped on me. He seems to be looking at things with a townie mindset due to how he is very questioning about the thread and situations. His interaction with super was on a level upon which I do not feel would be team. I feel like they would have interacted a bit more or less. Basically he is at a happy medium. If I did have to a rise a negative point though, it would have to be that he look back for a suspect via the super push that much. Minor complaint. So now the pool is Ryan/Cop/Rsoul, lets go further. Cop Early town read on Super. Her filter is a bit full of Night 1 talk with super, but this is most towards Ryan's questions. Also includes Rso and Ryan to the conversation. My and sky interactions were a bit missing, but I get more onto that in the next paragraph. And now this gets into the highly conversational part of this read, and this is the character of Cake. Anything That I say here is not meet to be insulting (not that it should be) or judgmental. Cake is somewhat of ENSP and a INTJ mixed (kinda) She is uncomfortable with people she doesn't know very well, and is more likely to talk to those she does know. Multiple posts, suggest this (especially the one with her listening to Ryan and Rsoul about my and Sky newbness if stated) So what does this mean? This means that it makes sense for her NOT to interact as heavily as she does with Rsoul or Ryan. In addition, I feel like she would WANT to go against this and would interact more with me and sky if she was scum, due to the logic of not being able to be tied to being scum. And while she did scum read me, Skynx was pretty untouched Day 1, and only consider around the time of the Framing idea. That last paragraph basically is saying, that she is being herself this game, and isn't stressed to be someone she isn't. Then the framing idea, Both me and her had the same idea (admittedly, not over the same stuff lol) but why would mafia reveal a Framing idea shortly after mine (I mean, theoretically she could copy it, but I do not think so)? Why even state it at all. Plus, nothing of her and Super interaction reads heavily for me as scum v scum. So it has to be one of Ryan and Rsoul (assuming I am not wrong here) So Plottwist time, 1 has heavily interacted with Ryan, and the other, Super barely interacted with. Diving their filters, will have thoughts. Clearing my mind so I am not going to bias it off of some stupid shit here like "Ryan is so inquisitive, blah blah blah" anymore either. | ||
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Say what you want, Cake has been extremely focus/more contactable with you and Rsoul this game then me or skynx. This I find we both can agree on. I can quote a number of posts the supports that Idea. Another hot tip; If you are town and going to argue towards the narrative of mafia framing you, i suggest you debunk the evidence posted in thread that suggests the narrative is just incorrect. If you are scum and the play is to get Cake vote with you and get Skynx to switch his vote, feel free to continue what you are doing. So I cannot be town trying to actually give a solid conclusion, outside of a theory I have, and found that they are both town? Why do you think me TRing them is going to make them flock to my side? Shouldn't they be more wary of me because I am sus of 2 players they both have a strong opinion about? Or (and I am going to be cheeky) are you scum, and actually worrying that I get on the right track? | ||
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On June 22 2016 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: (1) Yes she has, and that doesn't make her anything. Especially based on how you put it because you said as scum she would try to act townie in our eyes by acting unnaturally - and that makes her town. (2) The thing is those are not solid conclusions. They don't even look remotely close to solid conclusions (see (1)). If you are mafia that's the only thing you can do rofl.. I think you are smart enough to realize me and rsoultin are highly unlike to change our votes in comparison to Cake who "agreed to the framing theory" and Skynx who doesn't really seem to be thinking you are scum. Come on, don't play stupid..... What I said was that if she was scum, IMO, she would be more focus on me and sky. Not trying to act townie in your eyes. I also said that she seems to be herself in that regard, which is part of why I TR here. 2, Why, I can pick any of the 4 of you to push if I was scum. Me Town Reading them isn't the only thing I can do. Theoretically, Why cannot I convince you, or Rsoul to change votes? yes, it would be harder for you and rsoul to change, yet the main prob. you guys had outside of the shot was no conclusions blah blah. Not only that, but you both have been open to it. Also, Why on fucking earth would I think cake, who I describe as someone who is more supportive to you then to me, and isn't here for the last few hours would agree with me? She's not even here! No clue about Skynx, he might be here or not, Idk. The only 2 IK who would be around Deadline is you and Rsoul. Why would I supposely charm 2 people and play towards they flavor, if I am not sure they be here? Anyways, I am getting slightly tilted, and I do not want it to influence the post I am working on. | ||
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On June 22 2016 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: You know what happens when the level of arguments comes to this: I know, i will give you a hint: not the first instance ever.. ends up in the same way every time. I know which on side the mafia dude is, always. Cool, I get to break that that! Unless you are indeed scum, and would know who is on the mafia side. | ||
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On June 22 2016 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you want to do this, then we go back to the debunk the "who would shoot yamato" arguments. Because basically atm your argument is that the people who don't scumread you are not scum. O rly? What do you make of the person named cake WHO HAS BEEN ON MY MOTHERFUCKING ARSE ALL GAME FOR CALLING HER NAME PORN BEING TOWN IN MY EYES. I do not want to debunk them, because I do not give a flying mother fucking shit about proving to you. Did you even read the rest of the post? Clam Shapelog.....Clam..... | ||
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I am currently working through both your and Rsoul's filters. I am working on a post that will say if I think Rsoul or Ryan is fucking mafia for X reasons, which I would then try to prove. I Do Not Care About Proving To You About The Fucking Yammty Shot Cause I Have Fucking Realize That Shit IS Just Fucking WIFOM Piss-Poor Defense Now, did you read the bit below were you quoted? | ||
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Without even diving, This should be a 1 way fight right? Should be very simple right? "Oh ryan is sooooo Townie, blah blah blah, Rsoul isn't the same. It's she right.?" Maybe. I am not going to lie, my gut says Rsoul. I just have that feeling that it is her, but logically, that might not be the case. Some things I notice in the first post under the page by page thing actually is a bit off putting for me from Ryan. I kinda have beaten around the bush here with Ryan and his filter as well. Not to say I do cannot come up with some reasons Why Rsoul can be scum off the top of my head, but I have just pass off Ryan's filter. And I am going to predict that this is signing my death warrant going after these two. So I will sign it, ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s2Gh6eC.png) Rather Die by my reads anyways then over something as stupid as the shot. I flipped out too much about it yesterday. Anyways, I am being unnecessarily emo about this. So lets begin. RYAN Something I have notice about Ryan, is that no matter if it is in a game, or talking to someone about a game, he is a very ? usage. I also notice mostly from this game, that he is very aggressive in terms of pushing ideas and interrogating and what not. So I talk some of those points with salt. On June 18 2016 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could you expand on this, mainly on why you think Shapelog is town? The question that started it all with super. A following up post about super, On June 18 2016 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: In what terms similar? I actually glanced over Superbia's filter from the newbie game you are referring here and i thought he was scum because - in addition to the nightkill stuff i talked in about in the thread - he seemed to say a lot of stuff (especially on D1) that lead nowhere, which is closer to his scumplay (or at least i thought it is). Have you taken a look at any games he has played as mafia? I mean if you want to base a read on someone based on meta you should have references from both alignments, otherwise the argument doesn't really hold water. idk if you even are making an argument or not tbh. I don't really find nothing too out pf place except for the stuff i asked about, and idk what those things mean yet because i havent gotten my answers. I don't actually think rsoultin is scum since idk why drunk rayn thought being trolly could make her mafia and sober rayn doesnt agree with drunk rayn and drunk rayn is not here to explain the read to sober rayn. Maybe he will tonight  I mean, technically, Rsoul had a TR on me (for no visible information) on me. However, she didn't state it like how Super stated it. But the bold is actually quite interesting. He doesn't know what to make of it, and is waiting for Super's defense. He then comments about it, I mean this is Superbia's reasoning why Shapelog is town. Why so uncertain? The way he presents the argument suggests that he isn't even sure how Shapelog played in the game he is basing the meta on which then suggests that the whole argument is bs. Fair enough, Ryan stating why he doesn't like it. next up is the yammty thing, On June 18 2016 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: rsoultin what's your read on yamato? Any thoughts on what i brought up? You are in a unique position like me in a sense that you have more information as you and me both know 100% that we are not both mafia. I need to check on this in Rsoul's filter. It feels as if Ryan is trying to confirm himself as town via that post off of this. Reading thru, nothing sticks out too much. Some talk about the yammty thing with Rsoul, some things pointed at cake. Town explanation for cake about me and my meta. Super comes back, On June 19 2016 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean you just made a set of posts and followed it up with this: .. like in JAT game, the first ~30 posts in your filter is "start from 0 just to end back in 0". Could you answer me regarding the Shapelog thing? On June 19 2016 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: To be completely honest, people who post a shitton of one-liners and "fail to realize" what are the important discussion points -- or ignore stuff i find to be relevant -- (or don't really bring up anything new on the table) are super hard to read for me. In the latest newbie game the whole D1 was basically Jealous vs QT and there too Superbia basically avoided touching the whole issue with even a long stick, and since he is a player who is actually capable of quite decent play and capable of leading the town i found that highly unlike that he was town in that game. I was horribly wrong. Anyways Superbia, my opinion atm is that if the latest burst of posts is the best you can offer you can get lynched or shot. On June 19 2016 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay. So why the questionmarks in your post? What does this post mean? Questions, noting too off. On June 19 2016 18:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you actually meta town read Shapelog without actually remembering how he played in the game you referenced to? Is that what you are saying? Or what? Eh, was wrong, but nothing against ryan. I have sparked a Idea, but more on that later. It is hard to tell for me if this is scum vs scum or tvs right now, It seems like Super was genuinely trying to answer it. On June 19 2016 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Shapelog. I just revisited your filter and it doesn't actually look as good as i remembered. I have a hard time figuring out where you actually stand with your reads. You seem to be thinking i am town, Skynx is town and rsoultin is town(?), who is scum? Great If I knew what that TR was about back ago. Making this shit go faster. Next few pages is cakey, at least he treats cake with the amount of attention that he treated Super. Super is then scum read for what he posted. Going back to that idea I stated. Normally I would belie that that clears Ryan due to slip that was proven to be true (well the it was a mafia slip from a mafia member), but, looking at super's reaction to it. He seemed very, calm about it. Maybe he was freaking out in the QT, which I cannot know, but he was very calm doing the process, and ultimately, keep pushing Ryan. On June 20 2016 04:57 Superbia wrote: Oh cmon. Did no one see rayn's reaction? z_z Ryan, like anyone else, would of known that a Dead goon is better then no goon. Cannot really tie ryan himself to it. But it is as not strong for a town point as I thought it was. Ryan also pushed super hard too towards the end. Moving onto the Day. Basically Superbia is setting up a play where if he is not killed his vote will be on yamato 100%, and that will not change. yamato, not assuming Superbia is scum as he said, basically cannot let that happen as town because if he is town and Superbia is town that means he basically has to counter-vote Superbia and if they are both town it means town will 100% lose. There should be absolutely no way yamato doesn't understand that and lets Superbia live, unless Superbia for some reason needs to live over him. They both look super sketchy, but it makes more sense for yamato to be GF than for Superbia. If the game goes on i suggest you guys lynch yamato. It just makes the most in case Superbia is not in fact the GF. If he flips town or mafia doesn't really matter. Please try to read the first paragraph and understand it. gl guys. Going with idea, Ryan could of still killed Yammty and post this. His reaction to the weirdness of the shot was kinda weird looking back. On June 20 2016 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: wut? Fair, next post, On June 20 2016 06:59 rsoultin wrote: lol is it bad that my first thought was shape could be scum for that shot? lol next post, On June 20 2016 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: ohhhh...... interesting!! more tomorrow, now gn! I feel like he would be more questioning about it then just wut followed by happy embrocation after Rsoul. It is worth noting, that his activity did drop a bit in Day 1, but nothing I am worrying about. Day 1, Ryan was open to discussion about ohter people. Not out of the range of mafia actually. Sure it is easier, but that is it. Idk, i kinda have a prob. with his reaction and super's tone towards the end. other points to like the Yammty thing, also seems like mafia wanting to be town read. Let me look through Rsoul very speedy. Too tilted towards the end of his filter to accurately state my idea. Nothing makes sense for me in his replys. RSOUL: My major prob. with Rsoul is the interaction via Super. Super was very non talkative about Rsoul. Rsoul on the other hand was talktive about Super. She doesn't fully commits to the Yammty being scum idea, either. Defends super up to the Slip basically, would not know why to do so, but slip could mean to get the lynch (same with ryan) focused a bit on. After Day 1, It is mostly me as a target (which I can understand) with skynx and if I am reading correctly, a bit of cake as well (not hard thou) See, I want to see she is just tunneling me and she is scum for it. But, this is what I expect town Rsoul to act like towards me. I will say the post about the more shape aruges, the more he sounds townish followed by looking into skynx into back to me again is a bit eye looking, yet, all I did was just quote that framing idea I have. Idk why she thinks I am going after her though. I rushed through Rsoul, But I actually think Ryan is the scum here. Just the questionable things about how he acted makes me think he is scum here. 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Your a passionate leader of manipulation? Ironically, the sounds like what I would put for a GF application........ I swear, if you are actually GF, I am going to laugh follow by crying | ||
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On June 22 2016 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah that Shapelog post is bullshit. The tunneling is evident. At least I got something out. | ||
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Everytime I say something to you, you just cite that basically so idc anymore. | ||
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Come on fire me up! Pour your sugar on me! Pour some sugar on meeeeee! Lit. the best song given my position right now. Might as well die in a sugary death. | ||
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On June 22 2016 06:51 rsoultin wrote: pst you called him scum. what do you expect? "oh shapelog you're right! i concede!" i kinda got lost in that since it was mostly quote, babble...eh can you condense it to points for me? I meant before I call him scum. But this is the most of it. I find his reaction after the yammty flip sus. due to his tone. After you suggest me with the shot, he went "Hmmmm intresting , be back tomorrow." Which I find weird considering how I think Town Ryan would handle it. I would expect him to question you off of that at least.Then there is how I think he was trying to play the Yammty post to confirm him as town due to how he said it. There is more too. I don't honestly feel like quoting it. | ||
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On June 22 2016 06:52 CopCake wrote: So you have to pick someone else, i wonder if yama would have been able to Make a case on you if he was alive with you. Is this to me? I am not picking someone else. I think Ryan is scum, And I will stand by it. | ||
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On June 22 2016 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me just say that every single thing that Shapelog says makes me mafia (those things are actually either misrepresentations of what i was doing or not alignment indicative at all) are from the time (day 1) which after that he was posting for 24 hours but somehow originally came to a completely different conclusion (rsoultin or cake is mafia -- me as third). If he was town he would have made the conclusion he now presents back then, and not 10 minutes before deadline. And I also said I passed you off with your filter cause of your posts and such. I found new information that change my view. | ||
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I blame myself for spending my time in my own theory and not scum hunting correctly. I was better last game I rolled (the off site one) then this with my town play. | ||
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I was actually right for once dammit. IF only I actually had more fucking time. FFS | ||
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On June 22 2016 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shapelog your case was shit. Ik tbh This game was hard for me really after the yammty shot. Everyone really honestly sounded somewhat townie at one point at another, and I was focusing too much on dumb shit then the overall picture. I was lost. | ||
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On June 22 2016 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah, i basically yolo'd it. read the scum QT. But honestly, none of what you said in your post makes me mafia, i had a really easy game here. If you think that makes me scum you are gonna scumread me in every single game ever. ^^ Well maybe next game I won't fucking trap myself. Like comparing my play this game to this one: http://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=534647&postcount=1474 http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=24467&page=30 Is just so bad. And Ironically, I was wrong for the right reasons that game, and this game, I was right for the wrong reasoning, | ||
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On June 22 2016 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shapelog, you should try to use less words in your posts and cut off everything irrelevant. Your posts are really hard to follow at times and they seem to be losing the main point and get sidetracked. The problem with this is making a convincing case like that is super hard. Yeah I noticing that. It just, the way I think, I go from thinking from it from that angle, to that angle, to this angle, etc. and I try to look at everything from too many angles ultimately. It gets me sidetracked a lot. I've noticed, more if I write what happens down more, I do better. For example, I wouldn't have thought you were scum until, believe it or not, done the page by page thing. I saw the not questioning Rsoul thing, and that made me think. I also forgot about Super interaction with you hard. Should of been more of a point. | ||
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I guess the mailman was just so sus. and then the bussing comment  + Show Spoiler + Ohhhhhhhh Lex....... ![[image loading]](http://fscomps.fotosearch.com/compc/CLT/CLT006/kp917.jpg) | ||
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On June 22 2016 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: (1) I would have never questioned rsoultin as town either, because all game we were on the same page, and honestly if i was town, i would have probably ended up doing exactly what i did here. idk why would you question someone who already agrees with you? (2) Where does the "the player who interacted the most with flipped mafia is mafia" come from? I mean, i question people i think are scummy, or irrational. That is only natural. That always leads to interactions, and especially with me because i am suuuuuper nitpicky and want to get bottom of everything. I always end up arguing A LOT with people i think are mafia when they are in thread. 1, Well i didn't know that. But what I was getting at was that I saw that and just went "hmmm. This could mean something." I would personally question person who agrees with me, to see if they had the same idea behind it. 2,Not so much on your side, but on's Super. Super was really focused on you compared to other people. Especially the end part of it. Oh well bon joni (your new name btw) | ||
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