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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
You should do a sentence summary, partly as an exercise but mostly because I'm curious and lazy | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
But I was susoicious of half of the game, so it doesn't matter | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
 I felt much more comfortable this game, maybe I'm not cut to roll scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 22 2016 10:38 Tumblewood wrote: Shape I don't understand your WoT on rayn at all You should do a sentence summary, partly as an exercise but mostly because I'm curious and lazy I'd like to hear that aswell. I mean, there are a lot of defenses i had in my "back pocket" i never needed to use. From what i gathered from the case at the time i read it i think i could have defended myself reasonably. That is assuming i understood it correctly. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
I don't really agree with Superbia's play where he suddenly made himself look quite scummy (presuming it was intentional). I feel like it could've easily backfired as a few people thought he might be the goon, and it would've been very difficult for Rayn to back down on the read. It did end up working out, but mostly due to the very strong presence of Rayn whom played an excellent game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I agree Superbia's play was not good. At least to me it gave the most headache. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I mean, there is no reason why i should lie about my read on her when i am not trying to lynch her. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On June 22 2016 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would have probably shouted it down as town aswell because i genuinely don't like when people come here at the last second because it makes the lynch basically random (assuming people switch). And at the time i "shouted it down" i didn't even know if he is going to make a case on rsoultin or on me. I shouted down not the case, but the whole behavior. When the case came there was no time for anyone to even properly read the post let alone make a educated decision about it. If the case came let's say 12 hours earlier, i would have approached the whole situation quite differently since i actually DID have an argument against anything that could have been thrown at me (or at least i felt like that). I agree Superbia's play was not good. At least to me it gave the most headache. I don't necessarily agree you would've. As mafia, his case was the only thing that could threaten your win. As town, you might've been more inquisitive because it made him (imo) look quite townie just because there isn't much mafia motivation to do things the way he did. You'd want to make sure you weren't wrong no matter how 'stupid' the way he approached it was. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
I didn't read the whole game but the town shooting Superbia when he was acting super scummy was very weird. Definitely should have let him alive and potentially lynch him the next day if he continues. It was a mistake from town - but if I remember right town made it because rayn used his influence to obtain it so it's more good scumplay than bad townplay | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 22 2016 18:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't necessarily agree you would've. As mafia, his case was the only thing that could threaten your win I mean, as town i might have been genuinely mad about people possibly throwing the game based on something really stupid which is not "out of my playbook" as town. I often yell at people and just shut everything down when i feel like someone / people start making bad decisions near the deadline while not doing anything about it earlier. Because it is just bad play, in the long run you will never win like that, and a coinflip win or scumlynch is not satisfying in my opinion, it's no better than "wow we randomly lynched mafia". But yeah, as i said, maybe, idk. edit: I mean like, in somewhat comparison, when i have made my decision i will fight for it and will not change my mind, or at least it's very very unlike (especially in a situation like this). In Outlaw i thought Palmar was scum and made a case. Palmar gave his explanation/defense #1, it didn't make sense. At that point i decided that he HAS to be mafia, and when he gave explanations #2-x, my answer was just always "i don't believe you". That's how i operate. Up until some point i am fully capable and willing to re-evaluate but after certain point it's going to be impossible to change my mind. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On June 22 2016 14:08 Skynx wrote: I faaakin knew it. GG mafia, solid strategy I felt much more comfortable this game, maybe I'm not cut to roll scum. Most people feel more comfortable as town. Being mafia sucks. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On June 22 2016 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would have probably shouted it down as town aswell because i genuinely don't like when people come here at the last second because it makes the lynch basically random (assuming people switch). And at the time i "shouted it down" i didn't even know if he is going to make a case on rsoultin or on me. I shouted down not the case, but the whole behavior. When the case came there was no time for anyone to even properly read the post let alone make a educated decision about it. If the case came let's say 12 hours earlier, i would have approached the whole situation quite differently since i actually DID have an argument against anything that could have been thrown at me (or at least i felt like that). I agree Superbia's play was not good. At least to me it gave the most headache. Wtf you asshole. You literally asked me on skype to do scummy shit. >:| | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 22 2016 19:30 Superbia wrote: Wtf you asshole. You literally asked me on skype to do scummy shit. >:| ehh no? I believe this was our game plan no? [14:23:24] Joni Toiviainen: i don't really think you should play "intentionally scummy", because someone smart can figure out you should not actually shoot the scummiest person in the game because they are likely to be goon. or was there a miscommunication lol? I read the scum QT and i really can't find any sentence where i ask you to play scummy lol. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On June 22 2016 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: ehh no? I believe this was our game plan no? or was there a miscommunication lol? At one point I was going to go elaborate on my "why shoot the scary town" thing (which btw is prob the best play for town) and you told me on skype to just go afk. :p Hey, it worked out and I'm not complaining. I also didn't do anything stellar this game, but I did support your play. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 22 2016 19:39 Superbia wrote: At one point I was going to go elaborate on my "why shoot the scary town" thing (which btw is prob the best play for town) and you told me on skype to just go afk. :p Hey, it worked out and I'm not complaining. I also didn't do anything stellar this game, but I did support your play. Ahh you mean that... The reason for that was because you had already made the play we talked about. At that point the best play was to get you shot and you not posting anything anymore has the best chances of getting you shot. I mean, if you had lived, there was basically no way i am going to justify not scumreading you anymore at any point during the day phase. Because if i do, whoever of rsoultin and yamato is alive will instantly know i am mafia -- and mafia with you. edit: idk if our original plan would have worked better than this worked. i mean, i genuinely felt like you made a "mistake" when you started calling the shot on me, because at that point i felt pressure regarding "how am i gonna deal with D1 if Superbia is not dead (not call him scum in the end)? And even if he is, how am i gonna make it happen so that it doesn't point to me?". That's something i didn't feel like at all before that -- regardless of if you were gonna get shot or not. but yeah, anyways in the end it worked out. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
But i still think a planned plan with teammates usually ends up in a better result than unplanned play with rash decisions, especially if town plays well. | ||
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