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On June 10 2016 18:15 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:06 Koshi wrote:On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote:
Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right.
If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself. he was going to get lynched 100% after Shape claimed. So he would claim as either alignment. no he would claim 4 out of 12 times. 3 of the 4 times when hes mafia and 1 of 4 times when hes the acual tracker. math is hard. I would like to think the 8 other times dandred the vt would not claim but I have acualy seen dandred claim roles as vt before... Now that I think about it I really hope thats not whats happening here that makes so much sense. but dandred is acitivly trying to get art lynched so na
I like that math.
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On June 10 2016 18:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote:
Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right.
If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself. he was going to get lynched 100% after Shape claimed. So he would claim as either alignment.
That is the incorrect play, I haven't checked the timings but I thought he definitely had the time to at least attempt a non-claiming defense. Essentially, it didn't even cross his mind that if he is actually blue and can barely dodge a lynch, he's going to have a very easy time staying alive from mafia shots as long as he can keep on not being lynched.
The only reason he would do what he did (unless my memory is off and this is like 5 minutes before deadline, I was watching the warcraft movie so I caught up on things later) is because he is a) too lazy to fight back because he's mafia and b) he hoped to draw out a counterclaim.
In fact, the correct play as a blue if you're about to get lynched on day 1 is to suck it up and get lynched because you suck and deserve it.
well maybe not, but really that is how things should go down.
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On June 10 2016 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like it doesn't even make sense if I'm the roleblocker, because if Artanis is mafia and we lynch Damdred instead, we're lynching the last power role that town has - there's literally no point in even trying to save the roleblocker with a play like this. So he sacs himself to what - buy me days that I'm already voting myself using?
Damdred is taking you boys on a fucking ride. I hope you buckled your seatbelts....
yes, all three mafia are goons at this point (assuming there's not some clusterfuckery going on where neither damdred or artanis is the tracker).
No single mafia is important than the other.
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And here I thought you were voting Dam with me BECAUSE of the claim Palmar. I suspect you still would have stuck with Damdred had you been here.
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On June 10 2016 18:15 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote:
If Damdred and Rels are mafia I can really just quit mafia tbh. we can only hope
says the guy who was on the brink of counterclaiming the real town doc to get his bad read pushed through.
thank god I was there to stop your stupidity.
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On June 10 2016 18:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like it doesn't even make sense if I'm the roleblocker, because if Artanis is mafia and we lynch Damdred instead, we're lynching the last power role that town has - there's literally no point in even trying to save the roleblocker with a play like this. So he sacs himself to what - buy me days that I'm already voting myself using?
Damdred is taking you boys on a fucking ride. I hope you buckled your seatbelts.... yes, all three mafia are goons at this point (assuming there's not some clusterfuckery going on where neither damdred or artanis is the tracker). No single mafia is important than the other.
Not true. If we lynch ScumRB!VE today then mafia is forced to kill towntracker!Damdred during the night or during the cc war tomorrow Damdred might have a check that would incriminate the last mafia. But then again.. I guess mafia could just let artanis carry the kill.
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So it's true if they figured that out
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and in that world rolecop mafia will never check again because the blue part of the game is "solved". So the tracker is no threat because of course he would get guilty on his cc.
So yes, Artanis just made a play that he would only ever do as town.
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Okay to recap:
Damdred is always the mafia and Artanis is always the town tracker. I can't think of a situation where Artanis counterclaiming Damdred benefits mafia when I'm 100% of the time getting lynched. I was literally clocked out of the game, I just happened to check the game while smoking a cigarette and Art had CC'd Damdred, which just happened to pull me out of rage-quit mode. Like....what is the benefit for mafia? Say he gets town tracker Damdred lynched. He's ALWAYS the next lynch, and by then he can't be sure that I'm 100% the lynch. Maybe he thinks it's likely? Even then though, why take the chance? Why take the risk when I'm 100% the lynch that day? It's not like Damdred is even confirmed at that point, he's endlessly roleblocked so he can never ever confirm himself without flipping, why would Artanis DO that?
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On June 08 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
Damdred being town would really ruin my day though.
##unvote
##vote Damdred
information + peace of mind.
I need to go back to this place in my mind.
Soo. Damdred is mafia :/
Really now that ruins my day.
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Maybe it's because the VE=scum sentiment is just that high that he thought it would just fall into place that way. He had to know I'd come back though.
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Now I need to read the game in that perspective because I was pretty convinced Damdred was town.
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On June 10 2016 14:22 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 14:21 Tumblewood wrote:
hm damn I might have to reconsider
I don't wanna deal with cc wars right now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I'll see what everyone's agreed on and sheep that or something
##unvote
##vote visceraeyes what the fuck? are you the last scum?
Who is the second scum in wbg his mind?
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VE, one of Dam/Art, TW I guess?
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Which would be like the most useless and epic bus ever btw.
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Maybe not LI Toad v VE epic, but you know...
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Why would TW be mafia for picking one mafia over another mafia.?
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On June 10 2016 18:47 Koshi wrote:
Now I need to read the game in that perspective because I was pretty convinced Damdred was town.
maybe, just maybe, the simple solution is that I was, once again, right on day 1.
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Oh ya if anyone wants to read a fun game, TL Mafia LI is fun to read. It ended poorly, but the game was hilarious.
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EPT
