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On June 10 2016 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 17:48 Koshi wrote: and tbh I can also still see wbg be the boldest mafia in the world. Really good mafia player if he is mafia. New age of mafia play might come with him. Like I refuse to believe you don't remember bugs. Bugs is literally one of the best mafia players I know. -.- Pretty sure I have never played with him. Xcept maybe once.
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which I don't remember then. because it was once.
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Well fair enough, my point is that he's good - not that I think he's mafia though, I'm undecided on that. Only that your assertion that he might be playing well is a fair one, if he's mafia he's almost certainly always going to be playing well.
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The only game I read of scum!WBG, he tried to create chaos into the thread D1 to make sure town is not organized. He did the opposite here. It points at him being town
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Meeehhhh....Bugs isn't really doing any of the trappings of "mafiaBugs" that I remember, though to be fair it's been a hot fucking minute since I've played with him. But I DO have good memories of one game in particular, as I was SK and won that game and Bugs was mafia and lost that game to me. Storm Mafia.
It's a good example of what his mafia play USED to look like, years ago. But I don't know how accurate that will be today. Obviously my style has changed dramatically in that time, it's completely unfair for me to think WBG wouldn't have.
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On June 10 2016 17:55 Rels wrote: The only game I read of scum!WBG, he tried to create chaos into the thread D1 to make sure town is not organized. He did the opposite here. It points at him being town No he is not. He tried to really fuck up EoD1 with his bullshit. The guy was fucking trying to get Shape lynched while calling us morons.
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Me having been right on day 1 makes so much more sense than the alternative.
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There is, btw, no way Artanis makes this play as mafia and it's basically irrelevant whether or not VE is mafia (he actually might be seeing as he decided to be bad and self-vote). There is no upside. If VE is mafia, Artanis just added another free mafia for us, and if VE is town, Artanis basically gave a townie another 72 hours to clear himself.
The only logical conclusion is Artanis is telling the truth and thus Damdred is mafia.
Also, this means Koshi is still bad and I'm still #1
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ok. I don't understand how you can all think Artanis is actually town. Blows my mind.
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Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right.
If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself.
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On June 10 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote: ok. I don't understand how you can all think Artanis is actually town. Blows my mind. your mind is easily blown
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On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote: Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right.
If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself. he was going to get lynched 100% after Shape claimed. So he would claim as either alignment.
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On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote: ok. I don't understand how you can all think Artanis is actually town. Blows my mind. your mind is easily blown tis true
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If Damdred and Rels are mafia I can really just quit mafia tbh.
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On June 10 2016 18:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 18:05 Palmar wrote: Also Damdred being mafia sort of makes sense if my memory of yesterday is right.
If I remember correctly, shape claimed and so there was some confusion and Damdred started emerging as potentially the lynch target so he just immediately claimed too without putting much effort into actually defending himself. he was going to get lynched 100% after Shape claimed. So he would claim as either alignment.
no he would claim 4 out of 12 times. 3 of the 4 times when hes mafia and 1 of 4 times when hes the acual tracker. math is hard. I would like to think the 8 other times dandred the vt would not claim but I have acualy seen dandred claim roles as vt before...
Now that I think about it I really hope thats not whats happening here that makes so much sense. but dandred is acitivly trying to get art lynched so na
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On June 10 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote: If Damdred and Rels are mafia I can really just quit mafia tbh.
we can only hope
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On June 10 2016 18:04 Palmar wrote: There is, btw, no way Artanis makes this play as mafia and it's basically irrelevant whether or not VE is mafia (he actually might be seeing as he decided to be bad and self-vote). There is no upside. If VE is mafia, Artanis just added another free mafia for us, and if VE is town, Artanis basically gave a townie another 72 hours to clear himself.
The only logical conclusion is Artanis is telling the truth and thus Damdred is mafia.
Also, this means Koshi is still bad and I'm still #1 This is also how I see it, I can't see why mafia Artanis would save me to sac himself 1 for 1 for Damdred, our useless Tracker due to RB. It makes zero sense, but obviously that's from my POV where I know I'm town. To anyone else there are other options that I'm not considering.
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On June 10 2016 15:01 Damdred wrote: It honestly makes perfect sense tbh.
Art doesn't want to play as scum Ve scum partner up for Lynch
Art sacs himself give Ve another day gives scum team a ml in the process.
10 v 3 Kwah lynch 9 v 3 Shape nk 8 v 3 Damdred town tracker lynched 7 v 3 Koshi nk 6 v 3 Art scum lynched 6 v 2 Nk 5 v 2 Ve scum 5 v 1 Nk 4 v 1 2 ml needed
If they don't cc me
10 v 3 9 v 3 8 v 3 8 v 2 7 v 2 7 v 1 6 v 1 3 ml needed
It's much harder for one scum to get three ml than two, it's not the most optimal but it's OK
Also this post doesn't take into account the possibility that I'm town, which is important for analysis of Artanis' actions, especially given the "knowledge" that Damdred has that Artanis is for sure 100% mafia. Speaking of which:
On June 10 2016 14:46 Damdred wrote: ##unvote ##vote Ve
Make mafia kill me or let me get a free track. Ve is kind of claiming scum at this point. Who votes for someone that is NOT the 100% lock scum for him? Like...subtracting any suspicions he has about what specific ROLE I might have if I'm mafia, from his perspective Artanis is 100% lock mafia, but he votes ME? Like.....I don't know man, I can't see it as town tracker. It really doesn't make any fucking sense.
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Like it doesn't even make sense if I'm the roleblocker, because if Artanis is mafia and we lynch Damdred instead, we're lynching the last power role that town has - there's literally no point in even trying to save the roleblocker with a play like this. So he sacs himself to what - buy me days that I'm already voting myself using?
Damdred is taking you boys on a fucking ride. I hope you buckled your seatbelts....
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