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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:42 GMT
#401
On June 08 2016 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.


you know, I actually thought I had a pretty good read on you until this post. The observation is fine, and it's actually a pretty townie thing to say, but the manner has me confused.

What bothers me about this post is that the callout isn't direct. I would expect that if you're town you'd just call me out directly and even vote me if that's what you actually think, but in this case it was completely indirect, something I think mafia would be more likely to do because they don't take the attention of making such a strong statement. I like Kelsier's later clarification that the person who said this was me, because that was more direct, but he doesn't get as much credit for it because he wasn't actually the first to point it out.

this is never a scum tactic
this is an "I finished reading and there's this thing I remember from four pages ago but I don't remember who did it" tactic
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:42 GMT
#402
On June 08 2016 12:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 12:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2016 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Palmar, wanna stop being a lazy asshole and talk to me about ShapeLog?

I had the same issue with him last game with me and yet he was town. I doubt he can change it over just 1 game.


what do you think of Mr. Log?

confused by why wbg cares so much about palmar's opinion on shape
could probably find the answer in his filter but that's too many clicks
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:45 GMT
#403
wbg, without saying the word "palmar", what are your reads
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:49 GMT
#404
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.
good times for all
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 05:02 GMT
#405
On June 08 2016 13:42 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.


you know, I actually thought I had a pretty good read on you until this post. The observation is fine, and it's actually a pretty townie thing to say, but the manner has me confused.

What bothers me about this post is that the callout isn't direct. I would expect that if you're town you'd just call me out directly and even vote me if that's what you actually think, but in this case it was completely indirect, something I think mafia would be more likely to do because they don't take the attention of making such a strong statement. I like Kelsier's later clarification that the person who said this was me, because that was more direct, but he doesn't get as much credit for it because he wasn't actually the first to point it out.

this is never a scum tactic
this is an "I finished reading and there's this thing I remember from four pages ago but I don't remember who did it" tactic


what are you on about, I use it as scum all the time. That's precisely why I was confused. Scum thrive on pushing lynches without actually pushing them.

with that said, I read Koshi's past few games and he's legitimately really bad as both alignments, so I was reading too far into it and I'm no longer confused.

On June 08 2016 13:45 Tumblewood wrote:
wbg, without saying the word "palmar", what are your reads


different, and better, than yours. yours are hot garbage.

For example, putting me and shape as scum together. And Palmar as "sorta town" instead of "done nothing of note" (along with putting Chezinu there; if you actually read his posts he wouldn't belong there).

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 08 2016 05:06 GMT
#406
On June 08 2016 14:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:42 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 08 2016 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.


you know, I actually thought I had a pretty good read on you until this post. The observation is fine, and it's actually a pretty townie thing to say, but the manner has me confused.

What bothers me about this post is that the callout isn't direct. I would expect that if you're town you'd just call me out directly and even vote me if that's what you actually think, but in this case it was completely indirect, something I think mafia would be more likely to do because they don't take the attention of making such a strong statement. I like Kelsier's later clarification that the person who said this was me, because that was more direct, but he doesn't get as much credit for it because he wasn't actually the first to point it out.

this is never a scum tactic
this is an "I finished reading and there's this thing I remember from four pages ago but I don't remember who did it" tactic


what are you on about, I use it as scum all the time. That's precisely why I was confused. Scum thrive on pushing lynches without actually pushing them.

with that said, I read Koshi's past few games and he's legitimately really bad as both alignments, so I was reading too far into it and I'm no longer confused.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:45 Tumblewood wrote:
wbg, without saying the word "palmar", what are your reads


different, and better, than yours. yours are hot garbage.

For example, putting me and shape as scum together. And Palmar as "sorta town" instead of "done nothing of note" (along with putting Chezinu there; if you actually read his posts he wouldn't belong there).



ROFL
Kwahamot
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States22 Posts
June 08 2016 05:27 GMT
#407
On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:
Moving on
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.

What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?

anyways,

First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.

So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?

+ Show Spoiler [funny point] +

it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours

Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.

##Vote Kwahamot
Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread.
The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum.
Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.


Well how should I put this.. This is a response post! Responding to both Shapelog's original response and Rels' claim.

I just wanted to bless the thread with some dry humor. The introduction is the introduction. I made that post and prepared it and I'm making this post right now because I've had a busy start to the game and I wanted to get my thoughts down in one go but I'll address my small portions of inactivity next time.

I've briefly skimmed the analysis pinned to be able to make a few day 1 calls. The "excuse" was to put things into perspective perhaps some of you guys expect me to immediately fit like a puzzle into this game. I don't think my reads were all that random by the way and I don't think I'd be helping if I talked about the weather as opposed to my "serious" stuff. At least we're talking about me now right? I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.

On June 08 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:34 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:32 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:29 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:
Yo I drink so I'm drunk

That's nice,

Why don't we talk so I can gather a read on you, and you can stop me spamming?

Is it a serious offer ?

Yes. I'm serious.
I find your lack of faith most disturbing.

Then yes please

Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything.

Ls is likely town
Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now

this one. always more likely a townie makes a posts in which he townreads somebody for thinking the same. just looks like a solid post.

I was reluctant to comply to your demands but because you are doing things I did as a token of good will. Now that I did it and saw how brilliant my read is I am even happy I did it.



PS: your read on kawadude is premature so don't push it too hard because it could very well be completely wrong.

Brillant indeed p:
My read on tomhahawk might be early but it is quite good. First posts are very revelative for newbies

On to my main point and the overdue response to Shapelog, Rels, I believe you are reading backwards. Although I did claim that I don't have the experience to read you guys in the game, I never said I was a newbie and I think you would be fishing a little bit. You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels

Back to Shapelog, the amount of mafia experience? well some amount I guess mostly offline. I lurked a few threads but never really followed one actively
toriya
Kwahamot
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States22 Posts
June 08 2016 05:28 GMT
#408
And I will announce that I am going to sleep: I am going to sleep
toriya
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 05:31 GMT
#409
On June 08 2016 14:27 Kwahamot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:
Moving on
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.

What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?

anyways,

First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.

So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?

+ Show Spoiler [funny point] +

it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours

Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.

##Vote Kwahamot
Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread.
The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum.
Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.


Well how should I put this.. This is a response post! Responding to both Shapelog's original response and Rels' claim.

I just wanted to bless the thread with some dry humor. The introduction is the introduction. I made that post and prepared it and I'm making this post right now because I've had a busy start to the game and I wanted to get my thoughts down in one go but I'll address my small portions of inactivity next time.

I've briefly skimmed the analysis pinned to be able to make a few day 1 calls. The "excuse" was to put things into perspective perhaps some of you guys expect me to immediately fit like a puzzle into this game. I don't think my reads were all that random by the way and I don't think I'd be helping if I talked about the weather as opposed to my "serious" stuff. At least we're talking about me now right? I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:34 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:32 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:29 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:
Yo I drink so I'm drunk

That's nice,

Why don't we talk so I can gather a read on you, and you can stop me spamming?

Is it a serious offer ?

Yes. I'm serious.
I find your lack of faith most disturbing.

Then yes please

Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything.

Ls is likely town
Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now

this one. always more likely a townie makes a posts in which he townreads somebody for thinking the same. just looks like a solid post.

I was reluctant to comply to your demands but because you are doing things I did as a token of good will. Now that I did it and saw how brilliant my read is I am even happy I did it.



PS: your read on kawadude is premature so don't push it too hard because it could very well be completely wrong.

Brillant indeed p:
My read on tomhahawk might be early but it is quite good. First posts are very revelative for newbies

On to my main point and the overdue response to Shapelog, Rels, I believe you are reading backwards. Although I did claim that I don't have the experience to read you guys in the game, I never said I was a newbie and I think you would be fishing a little bit. You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels

Back to Shapelog, the amount of mafia experience? well some amount I guess mostly offline. I lurked a few threads but never really followed one actively


wtf?

specifically,


I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.


followed by:

You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels


???????
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 06:13 GMT
#410
I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.

##unvote
##vote Shapelog


tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.

I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.

1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.

2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.

3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:

On June 08 2016 11:10 Shapelog wrote:
Eh i am getting off


On June 08 2016 11:02 Shapelog wrote:
Eh I skimmed LS filter and nothing stood out.


On June 08 2016 10:52 Shapelog wrote:
Eh I guess I dive either Rels or LS now.


On June 08 2016 10:31 Shapelog wrote:
Eh fuck it, I can screw around longer.
Whats up peeps?


On June 08 2016 07:09 Shapelog wrote:
I going to just grab a drink real quick, and try to read him.


On June 08 2016 08:22 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
On June 08 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
Oh yeah I skipped over this post.
On June 07 2016 10:11 sicklucker wrote:
you ripped my yugioh cards and then backed down

Yeah, fuck your blue eyes,

Onto more serious matters, nothing is bothering me from you other than your fixation on me and nothing else (might of changed since this post.) You keep coming back and posting just to me, and not towards or on anything else in the thread. You have (remember at the time of this post) not made any apparent reads or thoughts on anyone else. Which kinda rubs me wrong, because that doesn't seem like something town should do. I mean yes, town can get tunneled, but you yourself said it was for bad reason's (me being cute) so you not really dead set in it.

After typing it out, it kinda bothers me more. But I think for now I going to actually catch up.


i literraly gave a reads list a few posts before this page dumbo

Yeah I found it after the Yugi card post the page afterward and posted about it.


and, next post, emphasis mine:

On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote:
I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.

He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
Show nested quote +
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet

which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.

Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.

Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.

Will now dive another person


Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.

4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".

On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote:
I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.

He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
Show nested quote +
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet

which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.

Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.

Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.

Will now dive another person


On June 08 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote:
Reads
-bugs
I just do not understand why he is focused so fucking much on Palmar, and nothing else. Infact, the small talk to LS, asking about my games, and Kwah introduction being silly, is all that he has done other than Palmar. 2 of which (LS talk and Kwah) doesn't seem to spark any read from him, and he never read the games to our knowledge.

So, most likely he is in love with Palmar, and after the game, will propose to him. Wouldn't mind lynching him, thou other people might be better.

Palmar
Nothing out of the ordinary. Dead Null, Want Explainations


5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:

On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game


amazing


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).

I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.

Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.


On June 07 2016 06:43 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game


amazing


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).

I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.

Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.

But meh.


(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)

On June 07 2016 06:57 Shapelog wrote:
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On June 07 2016 06:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:50 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:39 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:34 Shapelog wrote:
[quote]
Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything.

Ls is likely town
Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now

Hmmm,
Nothing really is sticking towards me other than the fact SL just disappear, but that doesn't hold a lot of weight towards finding out his alignment. And he could just be lurking.
Prob. check cell and see.

Check cell for what reason ?

He got paranoia from playing to much plague inc evolved :o

I actually have just been playing total war rome 2 for obv. reasons >_>.
Suggesting that the Codester would ever play a game with the word "Plague" in it is just to far.

And you ruined the joke I was referencing

I mean, I do have a nice rear, but how does that = that?
I am so confused.

Paranoia is a symptom in that game lol.

Ah, well, I am suffering maybe from that because i find it fishy that:
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On June 07 2016 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
guys I got it figured out. Everyone who has posted so far is town.

##vote Palmar

happens, and 5 mins later
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On June 07 2016 06:53 Palmar wrote:
pls mister president i am innocent.

For both their entrance posts.

But gumshoe thought people for scum because of the fact they both posted at the same time, and one of them was vig (other town) so meh. Just really coincidental, or offchance planned.


I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).

If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 08 2016 07:23 GMT
#411
Day 1 Votecount

nnn_thekushmountains koshi
kwahamot rels
rels sicklucker kwahamot
Kelsiersc(2) Chezinu, visceraeyes
Shapelog (0): sicklucker wherebugsgo
LightningStrike (1): Damdred
Palmar (0): wherebugsgo
Damdred (1): Palmar
sicklucker (0): Shapelog

Not Voting (4): nnn_thekushmountains, KelsierSC, LightningStrike, Shapelog,

the votecount website isn't being nice to me so if there's any mistakes let me know
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 08 2016 07:43 GMT
#412
On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.

Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs)

That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless.

##Vote: Tumblewood
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 08 2016 07:51 GMT
#413
Although I do like that post by Bugs about Shapelog. :/

My perspective on Shapelog was that I was leaning town on him. There's something about how he's bitching that people aren't playing the way he wants them to so he can make his reads his way that just seems hard to fake as mafia.

I don't think Bugs is accounting for indecision and insecurity when he talks about not knowing Shapelog's reads. At least that's how I see it. I like the post, but think it could be wrong. Also I almost refuse on principal to lynch the person with the largest filter D1.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 08 2016 07:53 GMT
#414
Oh and I'm now fully on board with a Palmar lynch Bugs, just throwin that out there.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 08 2016 08:12 GMT
#415
i'm awake, catching up before work
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 08 2016 08:23 GMT
#416
On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.

##unvote
##vote Shapelog


tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.

I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.

1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.

2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.

3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 11:10 Shapelog wrote:
Eh i am getting off


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 11:02 Shapelog wrote:
Eh I skimmed LS filter and nothing stood out.


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 10:52 Shapelog wrote:
Eh I guess I dive either Rels or LS now.


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 10:31 Shapelog wrote:
Eh fuck it, I can screw around longer.
Whats up peeps?


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:09 Shapelog wrote:
I going to just grab a drink real quick, and try to read him.


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 08:22 Shapelog wrote:
On June 08 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
On June 08 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
Oh yeah I skipped over this post.
On June 07 2016 10:11 sicklucker wrote:
you ripped my yugioh cards and then backed down

Yeah, fuck your blue eyes,

Onto more serious matters, nothing is bothering me from you other than your fixation on me and nothing else (might of changed since this post.) You keep coming back and posting just to me, and not towards or on anything else in the thread. You have (remember at the time of this post) not made any apparent reads or thoughts on anyone else. Which kinda rubs me wrong, because that doesn't seem like something town should do. I mean yes, town can get tunneled, but you yourself said it was for bad reason's (me being cute) so you not really dead set in it.

After typing it out, it kinda bothers me more. But I think for now I going to actually catch up.


i literraly gave a reads list a few posts before this page dumbo

Yeah I found it after the Yugi card post the page afterward and posted about it.


and, next post, emphasis mine:

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On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote:
I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.

He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet

which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.

Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.

Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.

Will now dive another person


Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.

4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote:
I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.

He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet

which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.

Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.

Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.

Will now dive another person


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote:
Reads
-bugs
I just do not understand why he is focused so fucking much on Palmar, and nothing else. Infact, the small talk to LS, asking about my games, and Kwah introduction being silly, is all that he has done other than Palmar. 2 of which (LS talk and Kwah) doesn't seem to spark any read from him, and he never read the games to our knowledge.

So, most likely he is in love with Palmar, and after the game, will propose to him. Wouldn't mind lynching him, thou other people might be better.

Palmar
Nothing out of the ordinary. Dead Null, Want Explainations


5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game


amazing


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).

I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.

Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.


Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 06:43 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game


amazing


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).

I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.

Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.

But meh.


(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 06:57 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:50 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:39 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Ls is likely town
Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now

Hmmm,
Nothing really is sticking towards me other than the fact SL just disappear, but that doesn't hold a lot of weight towards finding out his alignment. And he could just be lurking.
Prob. check cell and see.

Check cell for what reason ?

He got paranoia from playing to much plague inc evolved :o

I actually have just been playing total war rome 2 for obv. reasons >_>.
Suggesting that the Codester would ever play a game with the word "Plague" in it is just to far.

And you ruined the joke I was referencing
https://youtu.be/R5E8myRKv_s?t=7m4s

I mean, I do have a nice rear, but how does that = that?
I am so confused.

Paranoia is a symptom in that game lol.

Ah, well, I am suffering maybe from that because i find it fishy that:
On June 07 2016 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
guys I got it figured out. Everyone who has posted so far is town.

##vote Palmar

happens, and 5 mins later
On June 07 2016 06:53 Palmar wrote:
pls mister president i am innocent.

For both their entrance posts.

But gumshoe thought people for scum because of the fact they both posted at the same time, and one of them was vig (other town) so meh. Just really coincidental, or offchance planned.


I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).

If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.


This is a really good post.
Zerg for Life
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 08 2016 08:27 GMT
#417
I may or may not like this bugs guy. results are pending.

To update TW his excellent list with my own reads:
really town
sl
TW

sorta town
kelsier
ls
rels
wbg

null
palmar
kwahamot

Will be hard to read
chezinu

scum team
ve
damdred
shape

I could swap out damdred with kamadude
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 08 2016 08:29 GMT
#418
##unvote
##Vote Shapelog


Not against this lynch after that post from wbg. My hipster self would like to vote VE again. Really dislike how he nitpicked something in TW his listpost to discard credibility and make TW look bad. While the overall quality of that listpost was pretty good for a replacement.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 08 2016 08:30 GMT
#419
##unvote
##vote VisceraEyes


fuck wbg.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 08 2016 08:31 GMT
#420
On June 08 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Shapelog


Not against this lynch after that post from wbg. My hipster self would like to vote VE again. Really dislike how he nitpicked something in TW his listpost to discard credibility and make TW look bad. While the overall quality of that listpost was pretty good for a replacement.

It's not nitpicky, it's a fact. Palmar has done dick and I've done things. Townie things. You obviously disagree, but you're apparently unable to recognize townie things when townies do them. That's not my fault.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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