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Ls how do you feel about everyone without using fucking meta
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Like try to expand your game i mean. Just do me a favor this game and try to leave your confort zone with reads and figure people out in the now rather then the past. I cant honestly read you when you just paste old games other then asking dandred
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On June 08 2016 12:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ls how do you feel about everyone without using fucking meta
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On June 08 2016 12:43 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 12:30 wherebugsgo wrote:I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, everyone is saying Palmar is a lazy asshole now but I read over Palmar's most recently listed games in the mafia DB and what I saw there is exactly what I expected to see here. More effort, to the level of bursty posts where he comes in and posts a bunch and then leaves, but whenever he comes back he posts a lot. And in general as town he appears to read everything and will respond when called out. Are there games more recent than December 2015 that Palmar has played that are not in the database? LS can you give me the link to this one:
I had the same issue with him last game with me and yet he was town. I doubt he can change it over just 1 game.
and any others you think I might find useful? i Mean hes starting to not look great. but palmar fucks off for multiple days at a time. Hes never a day 1 lynch anyway. If hes still doing nothing we can talk about a day 2 lynch then
I agree with you, which is why I was hoping he would at least respond. A useful Palmar is a Palmar to keep alive, but a useless Palmar deserves death. Day 1 death perhaps not, but death nonetheless...it's ironically harder to kill him when you're more sure he's scum because he's a fairly strong player in keeping himself alive when he wants to play-when you're more sure he's scum there are less people around to help you.
Anyway...
1. Who do you think is scum right now?
2. What are your thoughts on Log?
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no like seriously I need to read you. give me some reads
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On June 08 2016 12:56 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 12:43 sicklucker wrote:On June 08 2016 12:30 wherebugsgo wrote:I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, everyone is saying Palmar is a lazy asshole now but I read over Palmar's most recently listed games in the mafia DB and what I saw there is exactly what I expected to see here. More effort, to the level of bursty posts where he comes in and posts a bunch and then leaves, but whenever he comes back he posts a lot. And in general as town he appears to read everything and will respond when called out. Are there games more recent than December 2015 that Palmar has played that are not in the database? LS can you give me the link to this one:
I had the same issue with him last game with me and yet he was town. I doubt he can change it over just 1 game.
and any others you think I might find useful? i Mean hes starting to not look great. but palmar fucks off for multiple days at a time. Hes never a day 1 lynch anyway. If hes still doing nothing we can talk about a day 2 lynch then I agree with you, which is why I was hoping he would at least respond. A useful Palmar is a Palmar to keep alive, but a useless Palmar deserves death. Day 1 death perhaps not, but death nonetheless...it's ironically harder to kill him when you're more sure he's scum because he's a fairly strong player in keeping himself alive when he wants to play-when you're more sure he's scum there are less people around to help you. Anyway... 1. Who do you think is scum right now? 2. What are your thoughts on Log?
I honestly dont know yet. I rarely have many mafia reads on a day 1 besides superbia. I think my reasons to be suspicious of shape are valid but not like strong. if the random person is 30% mafia I would say shape is like 45% chance of being mafia which is not a terrible day 1 lynch. I like you because as a player who has not played in awile your focusing on the things you know in the game (palmar)
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Facts:
On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:Rules: The basic TL rules are below and any changes will be listed in the FAQ post + Show Spoiler [BASIC TL MAFIA RULES] +
Voting rules: 1. Voting is done in a separate thread, located *here*. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. 5. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.6. This game uses a plurality lynch. You become the new lynch target when you have more votes than anyone else.) In the event of a tie, the player who first received enough votes will be lynched.
On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:FAQvotes with :59 timestamp are counted, votes with :00 are not. posts made after deadline but before the flip are restricted to popcorn  or you face a warning/modkill 48h/24h time cycle There will not be a voting thread, I'm going to use the votecount machine Plurality lynch Replacements until the end of day 2 only. Town can vote for a no lynch. ##vote: no lynchMafia can NOT hold their shot. Roleblock targets are NOT notified via PM Mafia KP is carried by a specific player and can be blocked Mafia RB > all so the mafia RB goes off even if the roleblocker is blocked Roleblock does NOT defeat passive abilities (GF/vet/miller/wanderer) Doctor May not save themself, Doctor may not save the same person on consecutive nights. You can talk about proleague here You can talk about starcraft 2 here
On June 07 2016 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:The game has begun! Please read the OP as THE FAQ AND SETUP HAVE CHANGED since the game was posted.
Votes are placed in this thread and will be counted by a vote counting program so please format your votes properly. until the end of Day 1, remember voting is mandatory.+ Show Spoiler [Sample Role PMs] +
On June 07 2016 14:19 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:
##vote KelsierSC
Purpose of Post:
Classified.
On June 07 2016 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.
##Vote: KelsierSC
He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town.
On June 08 2016 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
Shapelog (1): sicklucker
LightningStrike (1): Damdred
Palmar (1): wherebugsgo
Damdred (1): Palmar
sicklucker (0): Shapelog
Not Voting (9): nnn_thekushmountains, KelsierSC, LightningStrike, Rels, Shapelog, Koshi, Chezinu, VisceraEyes, Kwahamot
Analysis:
Note 9: It seems voting is a particular candidate is harder than it appears. There must be something I am missing. I must find it.
Purpose of Post:
1. To figure out the mechanics on how to vote
2. To confirm an innocent
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On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote KwahamotPrepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.
like pretty much the 101 of getting the new/lynchbait player out. I called holyflare out for it last game and was right. sometimes level one thinking is best
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On June 08 2016 12:57 sicklucker wrote:
no like seriously I need to read you. give me some reads
you don't need reads to be able to read LS's alignment, fyi.
I'm fairly certain you have nothing to worry about with him this game. As scum LS is incredibly timid, so far this game he just does not appear to be acting that way.
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on further review of rels filter
##unvote ##vote rels
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On June 08 2016 13:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote KwahamotPrepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. like pretty much the 101 of getting the new/lynchbait player out. I called holyflare out for it last game and was right. sometimes level one thinking is best
What are your thoughts on this post?
On June 08 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 07:08 KelsierSC wrote:On June 08 2016 06:59 Rels wrote:
I could lynch Damdred.
I can understand the idea that kush's replacement is 100% null. But Koshi I don't understand why you're so sure he faked it. Talk to me about Damdred, why would you lynch him? Because his joky town about LS is very similar to what he did last game, and scum usually imitates their last town game to appear townie, especially early game; while a townie just doesn't care about stuff like that and does his thing. Plus what Koshi said, the Shape townread in particular is weird and seems to be there only because Shape was super active early.
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Facts:
Lightningstrike
nnn_thekushmountains
rels
shapelog
koshi
chezinu
wherebugsgo
visceraeyes
KelsierSC
damdred
sicklucker
kwahamot
Palmar
Analysis:
List 1:
Lightningstrike
nnn_thekushmountainstumblewood
rels
shapelog
koshi
chezinu
wherebugsgo
visceraeyes
KelsierSC
damdred
sicklucker
kwahamot
Palmar
Note 10: A lightning strike can shape log for rels. A lightning strike can tumble wood for rels.
Purpose of Post:
1. To show that I am playing
2. To get the game moving
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On June 08 2016 13:01 Chezinu wrote:Facts:Show nested quote +On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:Rules: The basic TL rules are below and any changes will be listed in the FAQ post + Show Spoiler [BASIC TL MAFIA RULES] +
Voting rules: 1. Voting is done in a separate thread, located *here*. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. 5. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.6. This game uses a plurality lynch. You become the new lynch target when you have more votes than anyone else.) In the event of a tie, the player who first received enough votes will be lynched. Show nested quote +On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:FAQvotes with :59 timestamp are counted, votes with :00 are not. posts made after deadline but before the flip are restricted to popcorn or you face a warning/modkill 48h/24h time cycle There will not be a voting thread, I'm going to use the votecount machine Plurality lynch Replacements until the end of day 2 only. Town can vote for a no lynch. ##vote: no lynchMafia can NOT hold their shot. Roleblock targets are NOT notified via PM Mafia KP is carried by a specific player and can be blocked Mafia RB > all so the mafia RB goes off even if the roleblocker is blocked Roleblock does NOT defeat passive abilities (GF/vet/miller/wanderer) Doctor May not save themself, Doctor may not save the same person on consecutive nights. You can talk about proleague here You can talk about starcraft 2 here Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:The game has begun! Please read the OP as THE FAQ AND SETUP HAVE CHANGED since the game was posted.
Votes are placed in this thread and will be counted by a vote counting program so please format your votes properly.##vote raynpelikoneet
##unvote
##vote fecalfeast
until the end of Day 1, remember voting is mandatory.+ Show Spoiler [Sample Role PMs] + Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 14:19 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:
##vote KelsierSC
Purpose of Post:
Classified. Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.
##Vote: KelsierSC
He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town. Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
Shapelog (1): sicklucker
LightningStrike (1): Damdred
Palmar (1): wherebugsgo
Damdred (1): Palmar
sicklucker (0): Shapelog
Not Voting (9): nnn_thekushmountains, KelsierSC, LightningStrike, Rels, Shapelog, Koshi, Chezinu, VisceraEyes, Kwahamot Analysis:Note 9: It seems voting is a particular candidate is harder than it appears. There must be something I am missing. I must find it. Purpose of Post:1. To figure out the mechanics on how to vote 2. To confirm an innocent
ROFL this is actually pretty hilarious
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Facts:
On June 05 2016 05:59 Chezinu wrote:
The lightning greets another drop of Liquid that has found it's way to Liquidia.
/in
Analysis:
Note 11: Convention shows that more Liquid comes after the lightning ceases.
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if thats about dandred I kind of read him as calling ls scum to get a reaction. but he quickly turned it around and said ls is 100% town. which is a very townie thing to do if you have a perfect read on a person and want to bait scum into scum reading him
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On June 08 2016 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
if thats about dandred I kind of read him as calling ls scum to get a reaction. but he quickly turned it around and said ls is 100% town. which is a very townie thing to do if you have a perfect read on a person and want to bait scum into scum reading him
right so you said Shape is 45% mafia to you, what % would you put on Rels?
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Facts:
On June 08 2016 13:13 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 13:01 Chezinu wrote:Facts:On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:Rules: The basic TL rules are below and any changes will be listed in the FAQ post + Show Spoiler [BASIC TL MAFIA RULES] +
Voting rules: 1. Voting is done in a separate thread, located *here*. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. 5. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.6. This game uses a plurality lynch. You become the new lynch target when you have more votes than anyone else.) In the event of a tie, the player who first received enough votes will be lynched. On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:FAQvotes with :59 timestamp are counted, votes with :00 are not. posts made after deadline but before the flip are restricted to popcorn or you face a warning/modkill 48h/24h time cycle There will not be a voting thread, I'm going to use the votecount machine Plurality lynch Replacements until the end of day 2 only. Town can vote for a no lynch. ##vote: no lynchMafia can NOT hold their shot. Roleblock targets are NOT notified via PM Mafia KP is carried by a specific player and can be blocked Mafia RB > all so the mafia RB goes off even if the roleblocker is blocked Roleblock does NOT defeat passive abilities (GF/vet/miller/wanderer) Doctor May not save themself, Doctor may not save the same person on consecutive nights. You can talk about proleague here You can talk about starcraft 2 here On June 07 2016 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:The game has begun! Please read the OP as THE FAQ AND SETUP HAVE CHANGED since the game was posted.
Votes are placed in this thread and will be counted by a vote counting program so please format your votes properly.##vote raynpelikoneet
##unvote
##vote fecalfeast
until the end of Day 1, remember voting is mandatory.+ Show Spoiler [Sample Role PMs] + On June 07 2016 14:19 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:
##vote KelsierSC
Purpose of Post:
Classified. On June 07 2016 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.
##Vote: KelsierSC
He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town. On June 08 2016 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
Shapelog (1): sicklucker
LightningStrike (1): Damdred
Palmar (1): wherebugsgo
Damdred (1): Palmar
sicklucker (0): Shapelog
Not Voting (9): nnn_thekushmountains, KelsierSC, LightningStrike, Rels, Shapelog, Koshi, Chezinu, VisceraEyes, Kwahamot Analysis:Note 9: It seems voting is a particular candidate is harder than it appears. There must be something I am missing. I must find it. Purpose of Post:1. To figure out the mechanics on how to vote 2. To confirm an innocent ROFL this is actually pretty hilarious
Analysis:
List 2:
Lightningstrike
nnn_thekushmountains tumblewood
rels
shapelog
koshi
chezinu
wherebugsgo
visceraeyes
KelsierSC
damdred
sicklucker
kwahamot
Palmar
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On June 08 2016 13:20 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
if thats about dandred I kind of read him as calling ls scum to get a reaction. but he quickly turned it around and said ls is 100% town. which is a very townie thing to do if you have a perfect read on a person and want to bait scum into scum reading him right so you said Shape is 45% mafia to you, what % would you put on Rels?
higher. not that much tho
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On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote:
OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE
damdred shape scum
palmar kelsier sl koshi town
rest unknown
I agree with palmar's reads so far oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me. Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list. On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?  nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler me Palmar is not even on your catch up post. You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumreadre: damdred readfeels re: palmar readI agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone.
not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution).
of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads.
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