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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 04:02 GMT
#390
On June 08 2016 12:57 sicklucker wrote:
no like seriously I need to read you. give me some reads


you don't need reads to be able to read LS's alignment, fyi.

I'm fairly certain you have nothing to worry about with him this game. As scum LS is incredibly timid, so far this game he just does not appear to be acting that way.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 04:06 GMT
#392
On June 08 2016 13:01 sicklucker wrote:
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On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:
Moving on
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.

What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?

anyways,

First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.

So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?

+ Show Spoiler [funny point] +

it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours

Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.

##Vote Kwahamot
Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread.
The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum.
Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.


like pretty much the 101 of getting the new/lynchbait player out. I called holyflare out for it last game and was right. sometimes level one thinking is best


What are your thoughts on this post?

On June 08 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:
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On June 08 2016 07:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 08 2016 06:59 Rels wrote:
I could lynch Damdred.
I can understand the idea that kush's replacement is 100% null. But Koshi I don't understand why you're so sure he faked it.


Talk to me about Damdred, why would you lynch him?

Because his joky town about LS is very similar to what he did last game, and scum usually imitates their last town game to appear townie, especially early game; while a townie just doesn't care about stuff like that and does his thing. Plus what Koshi said, the Shape townread in particular is weird and seems to be there only because Shape was super active early.


wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 04:13 GMT
#394
On June 08 2016 13:01 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:

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On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rules:

The basic TL rules are below and any changes will be listed in the FAQ post
+ Show Spoiler [BASIC TL MAFIA RULES] +




Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in a separate thread, located *here*. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
6. This game uses a plurality lynch. You become the new lynch target when you have more votes than anyone else.) In the event of a tie, the player who first received enough votes will be lynched.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!



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On June 01 2016 08:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
FAQ

votes with :59 timestamp are counted, votes with :00 are not.
posts made after deadline but before the flip are restricted to popcorn or you face a warning/modkill
48h/24h time cycle
There will not be a voting thread, I'm going to use the votecount machine
Plurality lynch
Replacements until the end of day 2 only.
Town can vote for a no lynch. ##vote: no lynch
Mafia can NOT hold their shot.
Roleblock targets are NOT notified via PM
Mafia KP is carried by a specific player and can be blocked
Mafia RB > all so the mafia RB goes off even if the roleblocker is blocked
Roleblock does NOT defeat passive abilities (GF/vet/miller/wanderer)
Doctor May not save themself, Doctor may not save the same person on consecutive nights.

You can talk about proleague here
You can talk about starcraft 2 here



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On June 07 2016 05:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
The game has begun! Please read the OP as THE FAQ AND SETUP HAVE CHANGED since the game was posted.

Votes are placed in this thread and will be counted by a vote counting program so please format your votes properly.


##vote raynpelikoneet

##unvote
##vote fecalfeast


until the end of Day 1, remember voting is mandatory.
+ Show Spoiler [Sample Role PMs] +
VT

Town Doctor


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On June 07 2016 14:19 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:

##vote KelsierSC

Purpose of Post:

Classified.


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On June 07 2016 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.

##Vote: KelsierSC

He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town.


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On June 08 2016 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Shapelog (1): sicklucker
LightningStrike (1): Damdred
Palmar (1): wherebugsgo
Damdred (1): Palmar
sicklucker (0): Shapelog

Not Voting (9): nnn_thekushmountains, KelsierSC, LightningStrike, Rels, Shapelog, Koshi, Chezinu, VisceraEyes, Kwahamot


Analysis:

Note 9: It seems voting is a particular candidate is harder than it appears. There must be something I am missing. I must find it.

Purpose of Post:

1. To figure out the mechanics on how to vote

2. To confirm an innocent


ROFL this is actually pretty hilarious
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 04:20 GMT
#397
On June 08 2016 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
if thats about dandred I kind of read him as calling ls scum to get a reaction. but he quickly turned it around and said ls is 100% town. which is a very townie thing to do if you have a perfect read on a person and want to bait scum into scum reading him


right so you said Shape is 45% mafia to you, what % would you put on Rels?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 05:02 GMT
#405
On June 08 2016 13:42 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 08 2016 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.


you know, I actually thought I had a pretty good read on you until this post. The observation is fine, and it's actually a pretty townie thing to say, but the manner has me confused.

What bothers me about this post is that the callout isn't direct. I would expect that if you're town you'd just call me out directly and even vote me if that's what you actually think, but in this case it was completely indirect, something I think mafia would be more likely to do because they don't take the attention of making such a strong statement. I like Kelsier's later clarification that the person who said this was me, because that was more direct, but he doesn't get as much credit for it because he wasn't actually the first to point it out.

this is never a scum tactic
this is an "I finished reading and there's this thing I remember from four pages ago but I don't remember who did it" tactic


what are you on about, I use it as scum all the time. That's precisely why I was confused. Scum thrive on pushing lynches without actually pushing them.

with that said, I read Koshi's past few games and he's legitimately really bad as both alignments, so I was reading too far into it and I'm no longer confused.

On June 08 2016 13:45 Tumblewood wrote:
wbg, without saying the word "palmar", what are your reads


different, and better, than yours. yours are hot garbage.

For example, putting me and shape as scum together. And Palmar as "sorta town" instead of "done nothing of note" (along with putting Chezinu there; if you actually read his posts he wouldn't belong there).

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 05:31 GMT
#409
On June 08 2016 14:27 Kwahamot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:
Moving on
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.

What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?

anyways,

First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.

So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?

+ Show Spoiler [funny point] +

it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours

Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.

##Vote Kwahamot
Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread.
The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum.
Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.


Well how should I put this.. This is a response post! Responding to both Shapelog's original response and Rels' claim.

I just wanted to bless the thread with some dry humor. The introduction is the introduction. I made that post and prepared it and I'm making this post right now because I've had a busy start to the game and I wanted to get my thoughts down in one go but I'll address my small portions of inactivity next time.

I've briefly skimmed the analysis pinned to be able to make a few day 1 calls. The "excuse" was to put things into perspective perhaps some of you guys expect me to immediately fit like a puzzle into this game. I don't think my reads were all that random by the way and I don't think I'd be helping if I talked about the weather as opposed to my "serious" stuff. At least we're talking about me now right? I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.

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On June 08 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:34 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:32 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:29 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:
Yo I drink so I'm drunk

That's nice,

Why don't we talk so I can gather a read on you, and you can stop me spamming?

Is it a serious offer ?

Yes. I'm serious.
I find your lack of faith most disturbing.

Then yes please

Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything.

Ls is likely town
Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now

this one. always more likely a townie makes a posts in which he townreads somebody for thinking the same. just looks like a solid post.

I was reluctant to comply to your demands but because you are doing things I did as a token of good will. Now that I did it and saw how brilliant my read is I am even happy I did it.



PS: your read on kawadude is premature so don't push it too hard because it could very well be completely wrong.

Brillant indeed p:
My read on tomhahawk might be early but it is quite good. First posts are very revelative for newbies

On to my main point and the overdue response to Shapelog, Rels, I believe you are reading backwards. Although I did claim that I don't have the experience to read you guys in the game, I never said I was a newbie and I think you would be fishing a little bit. You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels

Back to Shapelog, the amount of mafia experience? well some amount I guess mostly offline. I lurked a few threads but never really followed one actively


wtf?

specifically,


I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.


followed by:

You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels


???????
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 06:13 GMT
#410
I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.

##unvote
##vote Shapelog


tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.

I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.

1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.

2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.

3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:

On June 08 2016 11:10 Shapelog wrote:
Eh i am getting off


On June 08 2016 11:02 Shapelog wrote:
Eh I skimmed LS filter and nothing stood out.


On June 08 2016 10:52 Shapelog wrote:
Eh I guess I dive either Rels or LS now.


On June 08 2016 10:31 Shapelog wrote:
Eh fuck it, I can screw around longer.
Whats up peeps?


On June 08 2016 07:09 Shapelog wrote:
I going to just grab a drink real quick, and try to read him.


On June 08 2016 08:22 Shapelog wrote:
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On June 08 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
On June 08 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
Oh yeah I skipped over this post.
On June 07 2016 10:11 sicklucker wrote:
you ripped my yugioh cards and then backed down

Yeah, fuck your blue eyes,

Onto more serious matters, nothing is bothering me from you other than your fixation on me and nothing else (might of changed since this post.) You keep coming back and posting just to me, and not towards or on anything else in the thread. You have (remember at the time of this post) not made any apparent reads or thoughts on anyone else. Which kinda rubs me wrong, because that doesn't seem like something town should do. I mean yes, town can get tunneled, but you yourself said it was for bad reason's (me being cute) so you not really dead set in it.

After typing it out, it kinda bothers me more. But I think for now I going to actually catch up.


i literraly gave a reads list a few posts before this page dumbo

Yeah I found it after the Yugi card post the page afterward and posted about it.


and, next post, emphasis mine:

On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote:
I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.

He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
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There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet

which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.

Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.

Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.

Will now dive another person


Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.

4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".

On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote:
I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.

He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
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There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet

which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.

Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.

Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.

Will now dive another person


On June 08 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote:
Reads
-bugs
I just do not understand why he is focused so fucking much on Palmar, and nothing else. Infact, the small talk to LS, asking about my games, and Kwah introduction being silly, is all that he has done other than Palmar. 2 of which (LS talk and Kwah) doesn't seem to spark any read from him, and he never read the games to our knowledge.

So, most likely he is in love with Palmar, and after the game, will propose to him. Wouldn't mind lynching him, thou other people might be better.

Palmar
Nothing out of the ordinary. Dead Null, Want Explainations


5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:

On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
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On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game


amazing


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).

I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.

Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.


On June 07 2016 06:43 Shapelog wrote:
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On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game


amazing


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).

I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.

Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.

But meh.


(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)

On June 07 2016 06:57 Shapelog wrote:
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On June 07 2016 06:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:50 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:39 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:
On June 07 2016 06:34 Shapelog wrote:
[quote]
Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything.

Ls is likely town
Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now

Hmmm,
Nothing really is sticking towards me other than the fact SL just disappear, but that doesn't hold a lot of weight towards finding out his alignment. And he could just be lurking.
Prob. check cell and see.

Check cell for what reason ?

He got paranoia from playing to much plague inc evolved :o

I actually have just been playing total war rome 2 for obv. reasons >_>.
Suggesting that the Codester would ever play a game with the word "Plague" in it is just to far.

And you ruined the joke I was referencing

I mean, I do have a nice rear, but how does that = that?
I am so confused.

Paranoia is a symptom in that game lol.

Ah, well, I am suffering maybe from that because i find it fishy that:
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On June 07 2016 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
guys I got it figured out. Everyone who has posted so far is town.

##vote Palmar

happens, and 5 mins later
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On June 07 2016 06:53 Palmar wrote:
pls mister president i am innocent.

For both their entrance posts.

But gumshoe thought people for scum because of the fact they both posted at the same time, and one of them was vig (other town) so meh. Just really coincidental, or offchance planned.


I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).

If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 16:12 GMT
#486
Got a bit of time before I need to go to work. After reading the responses after my vote on Shape I'm even more confident that Shape is scum.

I will explain more later but one of the reasons the resistance to the Shape lynch is very interesting because he hasn't even defended himself yet. You'd think that a townie with so much activity would have defended themselves already.

With that said I'm actually also completely fine with a Damdred lynch, as he also shares the trait of being universally suspected but flying under the radar. If necessary I'll move my vote when I recheck the thread before lynch but I would like everyone to consolidate on one of those two today.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 16:49 GMT
#488
VE did, and from reading the responses so far people have voted Shape just to unvote again.

I don't put much weight in VE's defense though, because uncertainty itself is not an alignment indicative trait. Self focus and avoidance of confrontation generally are, though.

Anyway when I refer to resistance, it's actually a good sign for a lynch if it has "hidden" resistance in that it's hard to get traction on what looks like a good lynch. Generally lynchbait townies will either just get bandwagoned to death or someone who has a good read of the person will surface new information or actively attempt to prevent the wagon.

The traction just isn't there on either of these lynches, so I feel better about both of them.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 18:01 GMT
#534
Shapelog's response is so weird to me. Like he is getting angry over me not responding about the games he linked? That's such a weird thing for a townie to get mad about, that he made some sort of effort to find his own games and got nothing to show for it.

It's also really weird that his response to me calling out his self-focus was that he "actually did" what he said he was gonna do (i.e. filter dives). That betrays the fact that he didn't bother to read what I wrote. The self focus aspect of scum is telling the thread how useful you're being. Townies don't do that because they have nothing to prove. They know they are town and their actions will carry that weight. Telling people you're doing stuff and being useful when not even being pressured is generally a scum trait. The response of "oh but I actually did that stuff!!!" is even more of the same of "hey look at me I'm being a townie by doing things like reading"
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 18:41 GMT
#579
Yo, sicklucker: Rels's responses to you have been so strong (as in bold) that I think you should reevaluate. Bad plays are not indicative of scum. Him suspecting the newbie is strange but his reactions afterward are pretty townish.

Yo, Rels, you're stuck on surface-level stuff on the newbie (who is apparently pretty cognizant of how he sounded, it seemed like a joke) and while he very well might still be scum he's definitely not the best lynch today.

One of Damdred/Shapelog dies today, all other votes are wasted. Pick one.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 18:56 GMT
#600
On June 09 2016 03:45 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 03:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Yo, sicklucker: Rels's responses to you have been so strong (as in bold) that I think you should reevaluate. Bad plays are not indicative of scum. Him suspecting the newbie is strange but his reactions afterward are pretty townish.

Yo, Rels, you're stuck on surface-level stuff on the newbie (who is apparently pretty cognizant of how he sounded, it seemed like a joke) and while he very well might still be scum he's definitely not the best lynch today.

One of Damdred/Shapelog dies today, all other votes are wasted. Pick one.


"looking good" is not really something that makes someone town or mafia. people are better at looking good in arguments but that does not mean they make more sense. I know I dont ever look good in arguments because no one ever agrees with me untill post game when it turns out im right which is pretty much the story line of every game im in.

At the same time rels is very good at looking town and in his last two mafia games I WAS THE ONE WHO FUCKING CAUGHT HIM AS MAFIA. and everyone thought he was fucking town in both of those games untill his final day except fucking me of course. So no him looking good should not make him a bad day 1 lynch. but I know in your minds it will so ill move on for now


Even if he is scum you are doing a piss poor job of convincing anyone he is worthy of a vote. My point is that the lynch definitely won't happen today so it's not worth derailing the thread over it.

Pick one of Damdred and Shapelog to kill and let's get on with it.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 19:34 GMT
#627
I didn't side with anyone. You're both just creating a shitshow and neither of you look particularly scummy. I see it better off for us if you work together in that case.

Damdred's posts don't really inspire confidence that he is town. I'm still fine with both lynches (particularly as people are hesitating on Shape without providing any decent reasons for it)
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 19:36 GMT
#628
Palmar are you around? How do you feel about Damdred's latest posts?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 20:50 GMT
#737
Actually I'm unsure about this claim. Like he could be doctor, in which case he just gets RBed over and over (or RB+shot which might even be better for us).

I feel like the right play here is to switch to Damdred and just kill him.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 20:51 GMT
#748
On June 09 2016 05:50 sicklucker wrote:
Like you dont have to lynch him im not medic I just dont buy his claim reminds me of superbia. do what you want


Do you think we have the time to switch to Damdred?

I would rather switch at this point and if Shapelog lives the night we just kill him tomorrow.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 20:52 GMT
#752
How the fuck does tomahawk have so many votes
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 20:53 GMT
#758
On June 09 2016 05:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Well there was the hammer. If Shape flips town we lynching Sicklucker 100% Day 2.


No, we aren't doing that.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 20:55 GMT
#774
On June 09 2016 05:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 05:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 09 2016 05:50 sicklucker wrote:
Like you dont have to lynch him im not medic I just dont buy his claim reminds me of superbia. do what you want


Do you think we have the time to switch to Damdred?

I would rather switch at this point and if Shapelog lives the night we just kill him tomorrow.

This is not a smart post. Shape if doc will get rb'd to death. We lynch Shape if the real doc cc or dies.


I doubt it. If the tracker sees someone visit Shape it's pretty much an automatic RB death and then town pretty much just wins. I doubt scum would risk something like that.

Think about it from the scum perspective. If the RBer gets tracked the game is effectively over.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 08 2016 20:58 GMT
#796
On June 09 2016 05:55 Koshi wrote:
wherebugsgo is fucking mafia. There is no way he doesn't understand that the uncced doc should never be lynched in a FUCKING OPEN SETUP


You're seriously so fucking bad. Sicklucker might not actually be ccing. If he is, then he dies anyway and we confirm shape is scum.

Like I don't understand. I already had a strong town read on sicklucker, but we don't know if he is a doctor till he flips. If he flips on the NK thenwl we get a free scum kill, but Shape is actually not a free scum kill today until we know for sure it was a cc.

Not hard to understand.
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