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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 27 2016 18:16 GMT
#1541
On May 28 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Well most obvious idk it could explain why he was so relaxed about the pressure from HF if he was scum

Idk though his push on palmar and super felt like town ls though. The lack of emotion is a bit strange but don't want to Lynch him yet.

He wasn't relaxed at all?!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 27 2016 18:17 GMT
#1542
On May 28 2016 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Well most obvious idk it could explain why he was so relaxed about the pressure from HF if he was scum

Idk though his push on palmar and super felt like town ls though. The lack of emotion is a bit strange but don't want to Lynch him yet.

He wasn't relaxed at all?!


I think he was relaxed for ls under pressure.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 27 2016 18:18 GMT
#1543
On May 28 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe HF is enough of a dick to not inform his team that his play is gonna be shite and he's going to martyr.
The vote by marv saying yolo is no contribution at all to his lynch, I don't know why you think he has been the main contributor to the HF lynch when Palmar was.


HF made a case on superbia with many bulletpoints after he self voted. The self vote was a scumstrat to look town without having to do anything.
(dont respond jat)

ANYWAY...
here's how the HF lynch went down.

Superbia had his vote on him from way early game. Superbia had been afk so that vote was doing nothing.

Palmar was under some pressure for not being very active. He votes HF for a bad point HF made. At this point I'm like, "ill vote for anyone on my lynch list, including HF." but my vote was still on ritoky because I thought we was a more viable lynch.
No one other than palmar who was in the thread wanted to vote HF.
But then marv comes in the thread and he's like, actually palmar is right about HF, and votes HF. Then I'm like, oh there's actually a wagon here? and I vote HF too. Then HF self votes cause he feels the pressure from Marv and doesnt' feel like putting in a lot of effort to look town.

anyway yeah. Without marv the lynch probably woudl have never happened.

I will leave the obvious bullshit alone, fine.

But the bolded is completely and factually wrong. Superbia did not vote HF before he selfvoted.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 27 2016 18:19 GMT
#1544
On May 28 2016 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 28 2016 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe HF is enough of a dick to not inform his team that his play is gonna be shite and he's going to martyr.
The vote by marv saying yolo is no contribution at all to his lynch, I don't know why you think he has been the main contributor to the HF lynch when Palmar was.


HF made a case on superbia with many bulletpoints after he self voted. The self vote was a scumstrat to look town without having to do anything.
(dont respond jat)

ANYWAY...
here's how the HF lynch went down.

Superbia had his vote on him from way early game. Superbia had been afk so that vote was doing nothing.

Palmar was under some pressure for not being very active. He votes HF for a bad point HF made. At this point I'm like, "ill vote for anyone on my lynch list, including HF." but my vote was still on ritoky because I thought we was a more viable lynch.
No one other than palmar who was in the thread wanted to vote HF.
But then marv comes in the thread and he's like, actually palmar is right about HF, and votes HF. Then I'm like, oh there's actually a wagon here? and I vote HF too. Then HF self votes cause he feels the pressure from Marv and doesnt' feel like putting in a lot of effort to look town.

anyway yeah. Without marv the lynch probably woudl have never happened.

I will leave the obvious bullshit alone, fine.

But the bolded is completely and factually wrong. Superbia did not vote HF before he selfvoted.

You are correct.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 27 2016 18:19 GMT
#1545
On May 28 2016 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 28 2016 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe HF is enough of a dick to not inform his team that his play is gonna be shite and he's going to martyr.
The vote by marv saying yolo is no contribution at all to his lynch, I don't know why you think he has been the main contributor to the HF lynch when Palmar was.


HF made a case on superbia with many bulletpoints after he self voted. The self vote was a scumstrat to look town without having to do anything.
(dont respond jat)

ANYWAY...
here's how the HF lynch went down.

Superbia had his vote on him from way early game. Superbia had been afk so that vote was doing nothing.

Palmar was under some pressure for not being very active. He votes HF for a bad point HF made. At this point I'm like, "ill vote for anyone on my lynch list, including HF." but my vote was still on ritoky because I thought we was a more viable lynch.
No one other than palmar who was in the thread wanted to vote HF.
But then marv comes in the thread and he's like, actually palmar is right about HF, and votes HF. Then I'm like, oh there's actually a wagon here? and I vote HF too. Then HF self votes cause he feels the pressure from Marv and doesnt' feel like putting in a lot of effort to look town.

anyway yeah. Without marv the lynch probably woudl have never happened.

I will leave the obvious bullshit alone, fine.

But the bolded is completely and factually wrong. Superbia did not vote HF before he selfvoted.

sorry i thought he had. still doesn't change the fact that marv caused the lynch to happen primarily.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 27 2016 18:19 GMT
#1546
Yeah that's true super kinda brought allegations without really doing much and I think was voting elsewhere
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 27 2016 18:20 GMT
#1547
On May 28 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 02:02 marvellosity wrote:
On May 26 2016 00:01 Palmar wrote:
I will consolidate on marv but I really, really think hf is scum.

Like marv might be mafia, sure, but he hasn't done anything objectively scummy and I have a strong feeling he would be fine with being lynched day 1 as town right now (I think he wants to lower expectations of him on day 1 to give him space to play more casually). I don't actually KNOW this is a thing, I just kinda maybe think it is.

Reading snippets while I have a moment. I'm not really so much fine with being lynched as I kinda realise it's inevitable.

I'm not sure why you think with any reasonable certainty at all that I am mafia this game given being veteran and shot last game saved me from bag loads of suspicion as I was inactive and didn't play for most of d1. Granted I had more posts there but I started a new job this week so there we go.

I'd like to call you town but I'm almost loathe to do so as you calling me town last game was a reason you were mafia, but the one thing you quoted on hf was actually quite okay


BOOOOM

He also tried to get me to join. HF wouldn't have been lynched without marv. It's just a fact.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 27 2016 18:20 GMT
#1548
As a thing to note, i would like to ask if people could try to post their votes on separate line to unvotes. Votes where the unvote and a new vote are without a line break are not counted automatically so i have to manually add them. This might end up in errors in votecounts. I am trying my best to not let that happen and i WILL ofc count those votes, but it would be nice if everyone tried to remember the line break. Thank you. <3

Votes that are incorrectly formatted or in quotes or spoilers will still not count, as usual.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 27 2016 18:20 GMT
#1549
On May 28 2016 03:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 28 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 28 2016 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe HF is enough of a dick to not inform his team that his play is gonna be shite and he's going to martyr.
The vote by marv saying yolo is no contribution at all to his lynch, I don't know why you think he has been the main contributor to the HF lynch when Palmar was.


HF made a case on superbia with many bulletpoints after he self voted. The self vote was a scumstrat to look town without having to do anything.
(dont respond jat)

ANYWAY...
here's how the HF lynch went down.

Superbia had his vote on him from way early game. Superbia had been afk so that vote was doing nothing.

Palmar was under some pressure for not being very active. He votes HF for a bad point HF made. At this point I'm like, "ill vote for anyone on my lynch list, including HF." but my vote was still on ritoky because I thought we was a more viable lynch.
No one other than palmar who was in the thread wanted to vote HF.
But then marv comes in the thread and he's like, actually palmar is right about HF, and votes HF. Then I'm like, oh there's actually a wagon here? and I vote HF too. Then HF self votes cause he feels the pressure from Marv and doesnt' feel like putting in a lot of effort to look town.

anyway yeah. Without marv the lynch probably woudl have never happened.

I will leave the obvious bullshit alone, fine.

But the bolded is completely and factually wrong. Superbia did not vote HF before he selfvoted.

sorry i thought he had. still doesn't change the fact that marv caused the lynch to happen primarily.

Sure, I agree. But since you for whatever strange reason think superbia is not mafia you should know that.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 27 2016 18:26 GMT
#1550
On May 28 2016 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 03:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 26 2016 02:02 marvellosity wrote:
On May 26 2016 00:01 Palmar wrote:
I will consolidate on marv but I really, really think hf is scum.

Like marv might be mafia, sure, but he hasn't done anything objectively scummy and I have a strong feeling he would be fine with being lynched day 1 as town right now (I think he wants to lower expectations of him on day 1 to give him space to play more casually). I don't actually KNOW this is a thing, I just kinda maybe think it is.

Reading snippets while I have a moment. I'm not really so much fine with being lynched as I kinda realise it's inevitable.

I'm not sure why you think with any reasonable certainty at all that I am mafia this game given being veteran and shot last game saved me from bag loads of suspicion as I was inactive and didn't play for most of d1. Granted I had more posts there but I started a new job this week so there we go.

I'd like to call you town but I'm almost loathe to do so as you calling me town last game was a reason you were mafia, but the one thing you quoted on hf was actually quite okay


BOOOOM

He also tried to get me to join. HF wouldn't have been lynched without marv. It's just a fact.


... thats not really true at all. There was like 6 hours left
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
May 27 2016 18:28 GMT
#1551
I stand corrected I guess, but what can you deduce from this? That Palmar and marv get lynch cred for the HF lynch, which doesn't mean that marv didn't bus him.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 27 2016 18:29 GMT
#1552
On May 28 2016 02:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:41 Tumblewood wrote:
Kush ur bad ls is most obvious town


omg dude you're so buddied it's not even funny.
All he has to do is townread you and he's confirmed town in your eyes for the rest of the game.

and you're hopelessly tunneled
and bad
good times for all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22426 Posts
May 27 2016 18:30 GMT
#1553
I am 100 % sure I would bus him with the way he was playing. That makes me like the theory that anyone not voting HF is town even more.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 27 2016 18:31 GMT
#1554
DAMDRED CALLING LS SCUMMY AND GIVING GOOD REASONS
On May 24 2016 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town.

Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise


I don't understand ls? Maybe some tmi in this post hrmmm


On May 24 2016 10:36 Damdred wrote:
It's not an over reaction by ls though which kinda makes it funny. He generally is really paranoid about Hf for sure and myself to a lesser extent but he instantly goes to us being crazy and Hf being confirm bias instead of thinking either of us could be scum.

I'm not super sold yet but it's a good thouht

On May 28 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Well most obvious idk it could explain why he was so relaxed about the pressure from HF if he was scum

Idk though his push on palmar and super felt like town ls though. The lack of emotion is a bit strange but don't want to Lynch him yet.



DAMDRED CALLING LS TOWNIE AND GIVING VAGUE REASONS OR NONE AT ALL
On May 24 2016 23:52 Damdred wrote:
Ls probably just town maybe, so is Kush probably.

Oh well looks like might have to plynch some non players

On May 26 2016 02:19 Damdred wrote:
Ls I'm pretty sure is town tbh. Rough start pushing what he thinks. I mean it would be such a good adjustment in his scum game to do this I kinda can't see it right now.

On May 28 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
Well most obvious idk it could explain why he was so relaxed about the pressure from HF if he was scum

Idk though his push on palmar and super felt like town ls though. The lack of emotion is a bit strange but don't want to Lynch him yet.



hmm it's almost like damdred knows LS is scum, but is townread him for some reason. hmmmmm.
And he found LS's push on palmar townie? Whyyyyy? It was a lot of words written about a whole lot of nothing. I'll repost it in all it's scummy glory:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2016 13:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I needed a few hours break so I can refocus on the game but the case againist Palmar is strong.
Behold The Case Againist Palmar: LS 100% confirmed Mafia?

Part 1:Okay first off Palmar did have a weak entrance into the thread
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2016 00:41 Palmar wrote:
forgot about this, who's mafia?

On May 25 2016 00:43 Palmar wrote:
oh LS is mafia, I read like 10 posts.

##vote LightningStrike

So in the first 10 posts in the game he thinks I mafia and I tried to ask him to expand on that several times:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2016 01:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:43 Palmar wrote:
oh LS is mafia, I read like 10 posts.

##vote LightningStrike

Why am I mafia?

On May 25 2016 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Pls no lyncherino mr koshi i am innocent

Why am I scum then? You didn't specified how I am scum.

On May 25 2016 07:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

Okay for the 9001th time wyh am I scum? You keep dodging me.

On May 25 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

That's fine. Then we will lynch LS after you should you flip town.
I think that's a reasonable way to proceed.

Dude I not mafia even if Palmar flips town for whatever reason I not scum. I been pushing my target and trying to get people with some reasoning. Here Palmar never gave his reasoning for why he's scumreading me? Why would you be okay with that notion?

When I flip town you are confirmed mafia. That's life bro.

If you flip town I wont flip mafia that for damn sure. Like what is your reasoning for why am I scum?

Then finally gives me a really lackluster response as to why I am scum:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2016 07:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

That's fine. Then we will lynch LS after you should you flip town.
I think that's a reasonable way to proceed.

Dude I not mafia even if Palmar flips town for whatever reason I not scum. I been pushing my target and trying to get people with some reasoning. Here Palmar never gave his reasoning for why he's scumreading me? Why would you be okay with that notion?

When I flip town you are confirmed mafia. That's life bro.

If you flip town I wont flip mafia that for damn sure. Like what is your reasoning for why am I scum?

I'm town therefore you must be scum.... pls

What kind of a answer is that? it very illogical like why does he being town makes me scum?
Palmar as town would actually give some decent reasoning but for him to respond like that? I don't think this comes from a town Palmar at all.
Point 2: Palmar actually seemed to be actively lurking:
So between his post on 263 and 371 he never spoke a word until post 371 which was:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

He blatantly admitted to actively lurking during that two hour of time between those posts.
Point 3: He tried to defend himself from the push on him with this post:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Pls no lyncherino mr koshi i am innocent

That defense post by him was rather lackluster and he would actually try to stop his push harder as town.
These three points are what makes Palmar scum and we should lynch with fire.
TLDR Version:
1. Palmar weak entrance into just calling me mafia jsut because he's town which is very bad logic.
2. He was actively lurking between his post on 263 and 371
3. Rather weak defense when people were wanting to lynch him and he would try harder as town to stop the push on him.
Please discuss my case guys I beg of you guys to do it.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 27 2016 18:31 GMT
#1555
On May 28 2016 03:28 Vivax wrote:
I stand corrected I guess, but what can you deduce from this? That Palmar and marv get lynch cred for the HF lynch, which doesn't mean that marv didn't bus him.

Yes, correct.

It's all very weird. The way this lynch makes sense for me is if either
1) Palmar and marv are town and HF tried to reduce any possible cred by suiciding before it was too late.
or
2) It was a planned bus due to HF having no time. But it makes no sense for marv alone to do it. He is never the endgame solution for mafia and I don't get why he would sacrifice HF for some questionable towncred. This scenario only really makes sense to me if it's marv AND Palmar. Or something weird is going on.


So, since Palmar is pushing marv and marv is just rolling over (at least it seems this way atm) something is weird this game.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 27 2016 18:32 GMT
#1556
On May 28 2016 03:29 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 28 2016 02:41 Tumblewood wrote:
Kush ur bad ls is most obvious town


omg dude you're so buddied it's not even funny.
All he has to do is townread you and he's confirmed town in your eyes for the rest of the game.

and you're hopelessly tunneled
and bad

How is that not exactly what has happened? You are townreading him for "sticking up for lynchbait" aka townreading you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 27 2016 18:32 GMT
#1557
On May 28 2016 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I am 100 % sure I would bus him with the way he was playing. That makes me like the theory that anyone not voting HF is town even more.

That's a pretty baseless and stupid theory.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 27 2016 18:33 GMT
#1558
Meh kush your a good player but look elsewhere bro I'm an innocent child at this point.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 27 2016 18:33 GMT
#1559
Okay real talk
Damdred and HF are acting super similar
Damdred reaction-tests LS? HF reaction-tests LS
HF votes X? Damdred votes X (three times)
This is super weird and I can't tell if it's town or scum
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 27 2016 18:34 GMT
#1560
On May 28 2016 03:33 Damdred wrote:
Meh kush your a good player but look elsewhere bro I'm an innocent child at this point.

Is this a joke
good times for all
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