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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 26 2016 18:49 GMT
#1281
On May 27 2016 03:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:43 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:38 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?

i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.

i should probably read it at some point

If you just read the posts without context/without looking at the overall play his filter until today doesn't even seem that bad. But you have to wonder why he wasn't on HF way earlier and why there are basically 0 interesting things in there. Why he feels the need to fight with me over stuff he could easily fact check instead. Why once he says "he can easily read me" and once how "he has almost 0 experience playing with me" and doesn't remember any games.
How his tone is abrasive and destructive for no reason which is something that is very prominent in his mafia games. Especially the posts today are just not coming from a town mindset.


Mafia. This is such a lie.

Look at the interactions between HF and JAT.

What about it is a lie? What do my interactions with HF have to do with it?


The bolded part. I'm too tired to over it now but it's just not true. We had a (very annoying) argument about whether I knew your meta, and you're presenting your opinion on matter here as fact.

Also your interactions with HF is mafia. Especially the part where you call him null after I force you to give him a read.

Yes, and did you ask people about my meta? Did you check it?
No, you didn't. You were content fighting over it instead when you were clearly in the wrong. Why? Noone knows.

My interactions with HF are mafia/mafia? Earlier you said I was buddying him. Do you really think I would buddy a teammate as mafia? You did not force me to give a read. You asked me and I told you. And I am dying to here how you justify nullreading HF this early in the game as a thing that makes me mafia.


Join hands with HF -> "uhh no he's null" -> ends up voting him.

Nice.

This is a silly post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 26 2016 18:50 GMT
#1282
Anyway these conversations usually sour my evening so I'm going to sleep before that happens.
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 18:50 GMT
#1283
On May 27 2016 03:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:
This OMGUS is such a kneejerk reaction that it's very unlikely to come from town. I am universally townread. There is plenty of reason to think so. Yet you feel the need to defend yourself by calling me mafia.


Are you seriously being universally town read? What a joke.

There is noone who is calling me mafia besides you and a lot of people calling me town. What a joke indeed.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 26 2016 18:50 GMT
#1284
You shouldn't take my word on it nor my stance on it. Look at it for yourself.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 26 2016 18:51 GMT
#1285
Actually should take my stance on it.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 26 2016 18:51 GMT
#1286
But you can't have everything.
Minimal effort.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22170 Posts
May 26 2016 18:51 GMT
#1287
Hi guys, here's what caught my eye so far.

On May 24 2016 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town.

Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise


On May 24 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see how Koshi having sexual relations with my mother has anything to do with that.



Why have you become a parrot LS?

How was I being a parrot? I rather confused.


Well it's quite simple really. You had backed yourself into a corner revealing both Koshi and I were town thus ignoring my "I could still be the first town," statement.

Further to this you then used Kush's reasoning to escape your inevitable slip thus rendering you as a mere parrot.

*fuck pictures in my quotes -V*


I don't believe HF went so far with wifom as to do what I think he did here, presumably spewing Koshi as town himself. Imo a followup here asking HF why he thinks Koshi was revealed as town would have given a good reason to lynch him already. The only possible answer would have been "I believe Koshi is town cause LS said he was town and I believe LS is mafia cause he said Koshi is town".

Having said that, I believe Koshi is town just based on this interaction. LS can be anything still. I know HF as a bold busser.

Next up is Damdreds filter cause he kinda hard aligns with HF early on, but not really cause the LS lynch quickly loses steam. When HF wagon starts building up he does something I can't explain to myself:

On May 26 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Idk super is still bugging me maybe I should listen to my early gut and just Lynch him then Lynch hf for bussing


On May 26 2016 04:58 Damdred wrote:
Here's the truth, hf is going to flip town 95% of the time. No way he fucks his team mates over even if he's about to go to work mostly unless Marv is his team mate I guess. Then all that cred but yeah


I don't understand why he would expect HF to be bussing in the moment he thinks he's town. It also isn't explained. I also don't get why he now is hedging on super but wants to lynch my slot. Need clarification on this one.

Throughout the HF lynch he sheeped Palmar Marv as a reason to vote HF. Meanwhile defending him but kinda trying to look like he isn't (the it's just piss poor play thing, paraphrased "it's bad, not mafia"). Checking on his reads on the ppl he's sheeping: Marv no read, Palmar coinflip gut town.

What I can tell for sure is that Damdred was either very lazy which already earns him scum points and/or he was looking for a quick reason to become a part of the HF wagon which is also scummy. I want to hear about his HF super bus thingy.

On May 24 2016 11:07 Damdred wrote:
I hard defended you in both games pretty heavily while we were alive together.

Obviously have a somewhat tr on Hf


In reply to LS the "obviously" seems out of character too. It seems like the kind of obviously you put in there to shrug off suspicion (it's like saying that you don't see the need to explain why), especially cause it's not obvious at all, and so aren't the reasons for such a read on someone like HF.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 18:54 GMT
#1288
On May 27 2016 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Hi guys, here's what caught my eye so far.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town.

Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise


On May 24 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see how Koshi having sexual relations with my mother has anything to do with that.



Why have you become a parrot LS?

How was I being a parrot? I rather confused.


Well it's quite simple really. You had backed yourself into a corner revealing both Koshi and I were town thus ignoring my "I could still be the first town," statement.

Further to this you then used Kush's reasoning to escape your inevitable slip thus rendering you as a mere parrot.

*fuck pictures in my quotes -V*


I don't believe HF went so far with wifom as to do what I think he did here, presumably spewing Koshi as town himself. Imo a followup here asking HF why he thinks Koshi was revealed as town would have given a good reason to lynch him already. The only possible answer would have been "I believe Koshi is town cause LS said he was town and I believe LS is mafia cause he said Koshi is town".

Having said that, I believe Koshi is town just based on this interaction. LS can be anything still. I know HF as a bold busser.

Next up is Damdreds filter cause he kinda hard aligns with HF early on, but not really cause the LS lynch quickly loses steam. When HF wagon starts building up he does something I can't explain to myself:

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Idk super is still bugging me maybe I should listen to my early gut and just Lynch him then Lynch hf for bussing


Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 04:58 Damdred wrote:
Here's the truth, hf is going to flip town 95% of the time. No way he fucks his team mates over even if he's about to go to work mostly unless Marv is his team mate I guess. Then all that cred but yeah


I don't understand why he would expect HF to be bussing in the moment he thinks he's town. It also isn't explained. I also don't get why he now is hedging on super but wants to lynch my slot. Need clarification on this one.

Throughout the HF lynch he sheeped Palmar Marv as a reason to vote HF. Meanwhile defending him but kinda trying to look like he isn't (the it's just piss poor play thing, paraphrased "it's bad, not mafia"). Checking on his reads on the ppl he's sheeping: Marv no read, Palmar coinflip gut town.

What I can tell for sure is that Damdred was either very lazy which already earns him scum points and/or he was looking for a quick reason to become a part of the HF wagon which is also scummy. I want to hear about his HF super bus thingy.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 11:07 Damdred wrote:
I hard defended you in both games pretty heavily while we were alive together.

Obviously have a somewhat tr on Hf


In reply to LS the "obviously" seems out of character too. It seems like the kind of obviously you put in there to shrug off suspicion (it's like saying that you don't see the need to explain why), especially cause it's not obvious at all, and so aren't the reasons for such a read on someone like HF.

Are you caught up?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 26 2016 18:55 GMT
#1289
Nice this Vivax replacement is going to be terrible for the scumteam.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 18:56 GMT
#1290
On May 27 2016 03:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Nice this Vivax replacement is going to be terrible for the scumteam.

Probably, yes. Regardless of his alignment.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22170 Posts
May 26 2016 19:26 GMT
#1291
On May 24 2016 15:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm interested to see how the "ritoky bot" processes this

##Vote: Ritoky


This vote is terrible. It has the smug tone to it that I associate with mafia and marv. It's just slapped down for no particular reason that a town could think of. If anything it's the sort of vote mafia places for association. The only motivation I could see is to scare ritoky into playing a standard game but then that motivation would be visible in the followup, and it isn't.

The tone is also what resembles the 3p tone in the game with a name I don't remember. Superbia simply can contribute a lot of good stuff as town and this doesn't look like it. Sup goes to scum pool with Damdred.

On May 24 2016 16:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway

Is there any point to this post then? And considering how short this game is why did you feel the need to say this without reading LS posts in the first place?

Doesn't make sense to me.


I already was thinking HF would be mafia if he tried to lynch LS on D1 even before the game started so I don't see why this concerned you so much, it's not like you're new on this forum either. If anything this looks like you're trying to stop SL from going after HF but you have 11 pages of filter so meh, I'll think about you being mafia if you're still alive by D3.

On May 24 2016 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
So when did my pressure that was obviously meant to get things rolling become something that was a sincere push?? It heavily looked like (and definitely was with your captain obvious picture) that you assumed the push was to start something but now you're saying instead that you think it was real pressure and bad and I clearly misread LS's posts??


Here's the type of scummy obviously I also saw in Damdreds post btw. "Obviously I didn't want to lynch LS, I only wanted to get things rolling".

On May 24 2016 20:24 Tumblewood wrote:
JAT: Why are your last three posts just taking Koshi down a notch "but SIGH I guess he's still town"
And of course Koshi's town he's using all caps and agrees with me


Town lean on Tumble just for this. HF attacks stuff, JAT attacks stuff attacking HF, TW attacks JAT for attacking stuff attacking HF. Not really optimal play for a mafia witnessing that situation where JAT is actually helping them. I correctly tr TW in my last game for something similar in regards to slam, so I'm pretty confident he's town here as well. Plus HF making a case on him soon after, plus noticing what I did about superbias vote.

On May 25 2016 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote Superbia


Who asks what someone thinks of a player and then tells us that he's going to call him town later?


On May 25 2016 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 00:19 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote Superbia


Who asks what someone thinks of a player and then tells us that he's going to call him town later?


Weak

He is right though.


Just some more JAT stunts. HF's argument is ridiculous here, yet only JAT fails to notice. Why is someone supposed to not ask anything about a player only cause he has a read on him? Maybe he wanted a read on the guy he was asking the question to, no? Mafia siding is within JAT's town meta however so I just wanted to rub this into him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 19:32 GMT
#1292
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22170 Posts
May 26 2016 19:34 GMT
#1293
On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.


I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 19:36 GMT
#1294
On May 27 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.


I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.

No, what I am saying is that Koshi is pretty obviously town and there is 0 reason to post stuff like that if you are caught up.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 19:36 GMT
#1295
But if you really want to go ahead. You did this as mafia before though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22170 Posts
May 26 2016 19:38 GMT
#1296
On May 27 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:
On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.


I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.

No, what I am saying is that Koshi is pretty obviously town and there is 0 reason to post stuff like that if you are caught up.


Wrong, someone could still ask me why I don't think Koshi is mafia, and by preemptively saying why I remove the need of such a question, and let others get insight into what I think since my slot isn't widely considered town.

As usual, any conversation with you just generates clutter, I'll be back to doing my thing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 26 2016 19:42 GMT
#1297
On May 27 2016 04:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:
On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.


I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.

No, what I am saying is that Koshi is pretty obviously town and there is 0 reason to post stuff like that if you are caught up.


Wrong, someone could still ask me why I don't think Koshi is mafia, and by preemptively saying why I remove the need of such a question, and let others get insight into what I think since my slot isn't widely considered town.

As usual, any conversation with you just generates clutter, I'll be back to doing my thing.

The point is that it would be far more effective to read the damn thread and then sum up your reads and the reasons for them.
Instead of doing this and giving reads which might change later on. It's really inefficient.

But don't let me stop you.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 26 2016 19:55 GMT
#1298
Lol jat has to bitch about everything
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 26 2016 19:57 GMT
#1299
I can feel the bullet curving away from ritoky slot to my slot now. This will be an annoying night if I get shot though right when my free time is bout to start.

Anyway I would suggest a bullet if we have a vig somewhere in the tumble/superbia/Kush/sl preferably just the first two.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 26 2016 20:03 GMT
#1300
On May 27 2016 04:57 Damdred wrote:
I can feel the bullet curving away from ritoky slot to my slot now. This will be an annoying night if I get shot though right when my free time is bout to start.

Anyway I would suggest a bullet if we have a vig somewhere in the tumble/superbia/Kush/sl preferably just the first two.

It mainly kush and Vivax with JAt only see you being scum if ritoky(vivax) and Superbia don't flip scum.
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