On May 04 2016 01:14 Shapelog wrote: So you flip the fuck out, because I have said something that underminded your defense, while not calling you scum over HTS and voting you off? I mean i latterly just made a point that you could, yet you OMGUS mode me.
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And yes I was wrong in Devil, for fucksake. And I admit that. And maybe I am jackshit at reading you. But, that is just ridiculous. I am in a postilion where I know that either you or Sky is scum, so yes, I am going to be questionable and nick-picky.
im sorry, I was more flipping out at koshi T_T I was fairly reasonable with him throughout the argument but his whole "lol your dying no matter what take the moral win" set me off.
It was dickish of me to do what I did, I wasnt mad at you it was just sort of a last straw thing cause i was sitting here laughing/dreading at the thought of you coming after me again in identical fashion -_- and when that actually happened I exploded, I didnt mean to insult the memory of your family I was just really angry.
in regards to your argument, I would have never trd you like that in the first place / : woulda kept my point about jumping onto the mislynch to myself
that is the honest truth, you can be certain I would not have this paticular group at final 4 if I was scum, I havent been able to convince koshi of anything so would never bring him, I wouldnt defend you and I wouldnt go after hts.
No hard feelings. For the most part.
Hmmm, Maybe you are right and I just being a tunneling again.
On May 04 2016 07:20 Shapelog wrote: Hmmm, The confrimation Bias (HTS Scum and Shapes town) or you just slipped that u have TMI....
Currently hts has ff tumble gb ls and shape as potential scum, all town of course. Sl and dyh are apprently coasting in her books at this moment.
Only I haven't flipped, therefore, even if you find me town to the dickens, shouldn't I be excluded from that list?
I basically think your town 100 percent at this point, the hop onto ff and dyh attacking you have made that clear to me for a while, I don't need to be scum to know that your town here shape / : and as I said, I wouldn't be tring you if I was scum given Koshis eagerness to kill you and the ease with which I could make up some bulsshit to kill you.
My sin is certainty (a crime I often make as town ) not treachery.
Yeah,
My sin is that I must Win with Style Vote: Gumshoe
I don't think honestly I deserve that win. Diff. not my best performance, yet the set up was pretty good.
Gum, I think what you missed the most was a post from Normal, where I said I knew and could multiple the vote pattern as scum to be able to be pro-town.
And for the recorded, yes, all RL issues were Real.
On May 04 2016 07:33 rsoultin wrote: lol shape's plan of attack:
buss buss buss
wait...are there no scummates left? ??? what now??
not even 3p to rolecop? ;o;
<3s shape
Lawl, Well, as Art. Drawn it:
Actually, I didn't want to bus this game, hence why i unvoted onto FF (and tried to find outs), but with the Vig shot on Sl, and a obv. forming wagon on last teammate,
Idk, the game was kinda meh from my POV (not solving etc, but otherstuff like tones and stuff. Like people being questiony about if i was jailed in RL or not. Just little things like that kinda made me go huh?) but it wasn't too bad.
Hope life treats you well sky, you will always be my first Host!
On May 04 2016 07:38 Damdred wrote: Idk why hts should be pissed at me when I reversed my read before I died.
Sucks people leave but if you don't get enjoyment out of it and can't post that's just what it is.
Hope life is better hts
I need to clarify that. I don't know when she wrote that formal farewell exactly....but I spoke with her shortly before dinner as she GGed out - she was more forgiving of you Damdred, seeing as it was day 1 and reads are generally in the shitter day 1.
Of all the players in the game she's had a good history of playing with....she's the most upset with two people: Fidei and herself.
Fidei is someone that normally she works excellently with when both are town. Unfortunately that didn't happen this game but the other thing as HTS said - Fidei has also never seen HTS play badly as town, and this is a classic example of one of her worst games. At least according to her.
Personally considering how easily I bluesniped low-key players on the same scumteam with him, I'm a bit surprised he had to conclude it was HTS who bluesniped him.
I would also like to add that HTS has never been mislynched as town in her 7 years of forum mafia, not this site (1.5 years), not anywhere. This is the first time that has ever happened. I think by the time she GGed out, she didn't care as much but one of the things she told me before she left is part of the reason she is able to save herself as VT is that if she can figure out who the townies are and why she's getting scumread, she's usually able to demonstrate herself as town, it has always been one of her best traits I think.
This game however, there was such significant confirmation bias, she felt hardly anyone was listening to her during the course of the game, and as she said herself, hardly anyone on town was listening to each other.
The only other time she could have gotten lynched on TL was in that huge Carol game, she was so anti-town that game it wasn't funny, but thankfully she was blue, and claimed with her checks at the right time.
Town listened to each other. They all agreed on townreading Shape.
Funny enough, If only If I Claimed scum faster, Gum would of been MLed instead of HTS o_0
On May 04 2016 07:33 rsoultin wrote: lol shape's plan of attack:
buss buss buss
wait...are there no scummates left? ??? what now??
not even 3p to rolecop? ;o;
<3s shape
Lawl, Well, as Art. Drawn it:
Actually, I didn't want to bus this game, hence why i unvoted onto FF (and tried to find outs), but with the Vig shot on Sl, and a obv. forming wagon on last teammate,
well you only did that because I said your vote was super bad
Wut?
16 You have some wishy washy reads SL. Going to point it out, but not push you. I can't drive a bus today.
Alright, then. As long As I am not driving the bus, I am open to things. I'm trying to think of who I want my Vote to land on. 2 of scum leans kinda just left, however Gumshoe I can vote. I can with LS as well.
Hmmm, I might join you DYH, even if your lynch is happening. IF it goes haywire, and SL is here, he can vote in that case. I prob. will look better funny enough NOT voting you in the case of you winning their hearts.
On May 04 2016 21:59 NocturneMage wrote: so I tried to gather her thoughts regarding the final outcome, one of the things I personally don't understand is why the whole appeal to emotion means someone is town.
she feels what gumshoe did about his anger was a shitty thing to do as either alignment honestly.
she provided several counterexamples where mafia used emotion to get their way with things. she wasn't making that up.
personally I would have used the example from millionaire where sicklucker (edit: lightningstrike) was mafia, just lost his head, got warned by the mods for his cursing people out. that was a really recent example that I'm sure people would have remembered.
gumshoe and hts also don't know each other that well I don't think she's played with him ever before.
but appeal to emotion will never sway her, in fact his doing what he did only "assured" her he was likely mafia. there was no way back from the tunnel once gumshoe did that, whether you agree with her or not, she will not give a shit about appeal to emotion in these games.
that said she does accept she should have just placed way more pressure on shapelog.
I asked her if she would have done so if she had been around to notice that shape was doing shit all, she admits she doesn't know if she would have ever switched her vote....but she would have screamed at Shape to take a stand on one of them.
On May 04 2016 23:01 disformation wrote: So to say: put your conclusions in a form/shape that is very visible and hide the lengthy explanations as to how/why you came to that conclusion into spoilers.
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