A normal game just for JAT <3 - Page 176

On May 02 2016 19:31 Palmar wrote:
I am sorry that I didn't kick and scream to lynch superbia day 1.

If a person claims blue to save himself ALWAYS, ALWAYS lynch him. It is always the right play.

On May 02 2016 19:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes it is, even if he fucked up on D1 as town, there is no way he fucks up like that as N1. I mean like ofc you can never be 100% certain, but there is no reason to counter-claim him in a situation like that or assume a real power role that plays properly cc's him. Even if it Vivax, just always shoot them.

On May 02 2016 19:43 justanothertownie wrote:

No, no, no.
Yes, he should do stuff in the night but not everyone does that. Vigging a claimed powerrole without a cc in an OPEN setup is insanely dumb.

On May 02 2016 19:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So let's say Superbia actually played his A-game on D2. I am gonna come out and say that you would have lynched Obi the doctor over him there and oh boy you would have felt stupid. If you also count his D1 and N1 play here -- on the lynch on D2, why do you need to counter-claim / would not shoot him again?

On May 02 2016 19:48 justanothertownie wrote:

erm, what?

If super played his A-game on D2 then gumshoe would cc him and we would lynch superbia. And it is very different if you don't do much as claimed pr in the night vs. when you are being lynched the day after. How you can argue anything else is beyond me.

On May 02 2016 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because if Superbia is mafia which is likely you don't out a power role and waste D2 into talking about nothing but him (which the town did -- it always happens).

If Superbia is town he will get shot anyways on N1 because he is a good player AND a power role.

Like he was clearly the scummiest player in the game besides the claim and therefore the best shot. Shooting him as vigi doesn't make it any worse since he will almost always get shot by scum if he is town as it is expected he will play on D2 and if he is mafia there is clearly profit in shooting him.

On May 02 2016 19:56 justanothertownie wrote:

No, he does not always get shot. They can just rb him. And it doesn't even matter since what you are saying is that in case he is town we should just waste our vigshot. Great plan.

On May 02 2016 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am pretty sure this town wasted a mislynch because they shot a completely null player who ended up being town.

On May 02 2016 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Like if you wanna talk theory then talk theory. But don't talk theory and ignore what actually happened when it suits you and vice versa. In theory, regardless of Superbia's alignment, first of all when he claimed, if you want to make him accountable of his claim, make him claim a ROLE and not just blue. When noone counter-claims him on D1 it is expected noone will counter-claim him on D2 either. If someone counter-claims him, you either have to discount everything Superbia did on D1 and N1, or otherwise there is no need for counter-claim. If Superbia is town, any mafia up for lynch on D2 will obviously counter-claim him 100% of the time. Then you end up again in a dumb spot where at worst you have lynched a townie (GB here) and a blue role -- possibly even shot another fucking townie on N1 aswell. Instead of just.. shooting the scum on N1. Again, if you do not discount what Superbia did on D1 and N1, why cc anyways?

On May 02 2016 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk, maybe it's just me. Keep the game simple.
A lot of games nowadays people don't keep the game simple.
And town loses.