A normal game just for JAT <3 - Page 13

On April 22 2016 00:24 Rels wrote:

Agree with this. The rage post looks fake, and unwarranted. It's not like Onegu was useful at all this game.

On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:
Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though.
The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons:
1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense.
2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on.
3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events:










During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed.

On April 22 2016 01:04 Rels wrote:
I won't vote before having time to properly read at least Onegu / JAS / Tumble, so that will be tomorrow while you're all sleeping. BTW just because I'm sleeping while you americans are active doesn't mean I'm inactive, isn't it right SL ? Inactive my ass, I bet I did at least twice as much work as you did at the very minimum.
But unless I find something damning, or someone makes a damning case, on someone else, I will probably vote & push Tumble tomorrow.
Alright going out, still on my phone. ^^

On April 22 2016 01:07 gumshoe wrote:


yeah except rels is wrong -_-

so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).

also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)



which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.



the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.

Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.

point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)

Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.









also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :

On April 22 2016 01:13 gumshoe wrote:
It's like this, if gb had not come back ( which scum could not have known he would) the lynch would have defaulted onto tumble most likely. Thereby triggering the disaster scenario.

On April 22 2016 01:21 gumshoe wrote:


1: expecting town to jump onto a total lurker is a prayer, not a guarantee
2: gbs vote is important as that and his shit post are what really prompted the feeding frenzy
3 this points fair / :

Also just like to emphasize that rb means nothing here if tumble and super are scum. Seriously, getting a scum mate killed to preserve rb with claim is awful and should not be apart of the argument.

My problem with 3 is that it requires scum to be really good at rapidly internalizing the state of the thread, there had been six minutes between your willingness to kill gb and the rumblings of supers claim, it seems a little to quick of a span to write tumble off as safe / :

On April 22 2016 01:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.

On April 22 2016 01:38 gumshoe wrote:
Sigh, welp that means that unless onegu is the vig and he's massacring us as punishment, obi is telling the truth T-T

On April 22 2016 01:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I realize I may have to reconsider my read on tumble due to rso's death.

It's such a weird kill to me considering (imo) it was obvious that she wasn't the doctor and didn't really put mafia in a significantly better spot with her out of the way due to more conftown running around.

On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.

Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.

He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.

On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:


Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.

Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.

We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.

On April 22 2016 03:13 gumshoe wrote:


If he gets mod killed ill sheep you on whoever, but onegu could very well be spiteful enough to skirt the line.

We lose nothing by at least pressuring him today.

On April 22 2016 02:20 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Eh, I've have problems with Onegu since D2.

Syspoiois: A lot of what I know of him is missing. He is not pushing anyone, and when he is scum reading people, he wasn't interacting in a way I would think.

I look at him again.

On April 22 2016 06:57 sicklucker wrote:
Like you cant get mad when your not in my poe list when you hesitated to vote both obvious mafia. your not allowed to be

On April 22 2016 07:00 sicklucker wrote:


acualy I just said I cant be mafia that game and i was telling the truth...

Like if he flips mafia (he will) I cant be scum here.

On April 22 2016 07:32 sicklucker wrote:


Ive explained if your not listening poo you. BUT HERE I GO.

6 PEOPLE VOTED SUPER 5 FLIPPED TOWN.

This means at least 1 mafia voted to save super the roleblocker. So what are the chances the 6th person to vote super. the very person who pushed him the earliest and hardest is not town here. Plz your not this bad. ALl thiese factors together is too much to say im not town after day 2

On April 22 2016 07:33 sicklucker wrote:


how can one be overconfident about their role pm?

On April 22 2016 08:24 sicklucker wrote:
I never even mentioned medic... dundundun

But im probably the medic running a fun game of being too obviously the medic that mafia will never think I can be the medic

On April 22 2016 21:01 sicklucker wrote:
fyi shapes putting up no fight and is clearly scum. which suggests the third person is someone easy too. Well he had 36 or something hours to defend himself and hes a noshow. I might not even check thread from now till the vote he has had plenty of time..

On April 22 2016 21:25 justanothertownie wrote:

True.