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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 23 2016 18:56 GMT
#2241
On April 24 2016 03:53 sicklucker wrote:
Yes but you have a partner and no one but onegu wants to kill you. Even if I was pretty sure you were scum in this scenerio I would still go after your partner first. And I barely think your scum

We were talking about gumshoe. Not me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 23 2016 19:00 GMT
#2242
Final words?. im seeing alot of towns so I see no reason why onegu is not an easy lynch tormorow and flipping scum but what do i know
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 19:06 GMT
#2243
On April 24 2016 03:56 sicklucker wrote:
but rly is scum not gonna kill the claimed medic for the third night inarow? ROFL come on im so dead


lol
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 23 2016 19:13 GMT
#2244
SL, wasn't that just WIFOM-softing? There's no way I'd miss a real medic claim.
good times for all
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 19:21 GMT
#2245
Hi!
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 23 2016 19:27 GMT
#2246
On April 24 2016 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hi!

omg ows
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 23 2016 19:43 GMT
#2247
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:17 GMT
#2248
On April 24 2016 04:43 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Show nested quote +
Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

Show nested quote +
But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.




Dude, I posted I was sick and taking medicine or I would have sheeped palmar. He wanted to lynch Rsoul and I did too so we voted her, I wasnt around to change it. Second I never doubt myself. And I what you are saying doesnt make me scum at all. And how the hell does my sub read arrive after the point of relevancy it arrived night 1. And I never wavered on him I stayed on him the entire time because he scumslipped. And I dont fucking understand how you can blame me for my day one vote when you werent voting him either and even town reading him and put your vote on tumble.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 23 2016 20:18 GMT
#2249
Rels is scum

As we said, scum did want to save super day 1, but they had to balance that against the fact that super didnt really wanna save super day 1.

I’m going to compare the lines that rels had concerning super, vs the ones he had vs tumble

I don't understand your thinking there, 1st post is scummy and NAI at the same time ?


At the time of this post, sl, obi and rsoul are all already voting super, so him pressuring him around now is the sweet spot for a buss honestly.

Superbia's spamming spree is awful. The 1-line posts with random reads and no reasonning. Very different from what I expect from town!Superbia.


Jumping on the easy wagon too. Superbia might be scum


What do you make of the fact that Palmar was lynched D1 as town recently for playing like that ?


Superbia for being so his spree of posting reads with no explanation and not pushing anything. I think town!Superbia is more focused than that, like he was in his Palmar post actually, but the reasonning in his Palmar post is bad.


What changed with Superbia ?


Superbia is also likely to be scum, I don't believe in that "too scummy to be scum" thing rsoul and gumshoe has bought up. He made only 1 post that was more than 1 line, and that post was bad.


Comparitively this is what he had on tumble

gumshoe 90% of your big post on tumble is narrative that doesn't prove anything. The last bit is good though. If Tumble is scum, it is because he focused all his energy on rsoultin and almost none on anyone else, after Palmar started to push her.


For this first post he doesnt even agree with most of what I’ve been saying / :

Tumble for entering the thread late with a non believable excuse and being obsessed with rsoul, which would be the perfect lynch for mafia.


The excuse bit is nothing that doesn't pertain to super as well.

Almost every post of Tumble is focused on rsoul. It is after Palmar started his "lynch rsoul" thing, so there is the possibility that Tumble is scum jumping on that lynch. He also has a lot of reasons to scumread her.
Noted above, "rsoul townreads Rels even though she disagrees with him".


Of course alot of his reasons are focused on 1 person and of course they aren't that good. That kinda happens day 1 as theres not that much info out there so you tend to focus on your best bet which usually isnt that great because again, theres not much info out there.

So the post in bold doesn't actually exist. So Tumble is claiming a reason that cannot be true. It's impossible for a townie to make up a reason for what he has done things.


Blatantly wrong, townies can 100 percent make shit up and be wrong, I do that all the time. Mistakes are a symptom of the players skill, not his alignment.

In general I think it’s kind of clear that his arguments about super seemed to indicate scum (shitty posting, not really pushing anything)

Whereas his arguments against tumble indicated derp (shit excuse, dumb mistakes)

At the very least I don't think ether case is better than the other, yet hes certain which one he wants to pursue, never once voting super even when he was his only real scum read (before tumble).



right after the flip, he distanced himself almost immediately.

Scum”


Rels, like Onegu, had compelling reasons to vote super, but never did.

Also like Onegu he immediately distances himself from super for the rest of the game because scum know he's dead for sure, which is something I have missed till now, supers scum mates know for sure hes dead cause they already know how everything will play out, so right immediately after day 1 its buss buss city.

As for association between onegu and rels, obviously nothing rels says about onegu means anything because hes onegu, but heres some jems from onegu to rels

also rels is in this game? Dont remember anything from him…


Really need to look into obi and rels also. Guess tumble also since rsoul thought he was scum. JAS also since he is the lead wagon.


Das it.

Even though rels has also been calling for his head all game, even though rels also meta read him like me (which according to onegu means hes scum)-

Also people saying they can meta read me are scum. Gumshoe. Rels, Rsoultin.


-Onegu still cant be assed to push him.

alright thats all I got for now, gotta go bais.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:19 GMT
#2250
Your sub read arrived after mine so I dont understand how you can say this with a straight face.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 23 2016 20:19 GMT
#2251
On April 24 2016 05:17 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 04:43 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.




Dude, I posted I was sick and taking medicine or I would have sheeped palmar. He wanted to lynch Rsoul and I did too so we voted her, I wasnt around to change it. Second I never doubt myself. And I what you are saying doesnt make me scum at all. And how the hell does my sub read arrive after the point of relevancy it arrived night 1. And I never wavered on him I stayed on him the entire time because he scumslipped. And I dont fucking understand how you can blame me for my day one vote when you werent voting him either and even town reading him and put your vote on tumble.



I was wrong XD but I didnt know that : P you did.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:20 GMT
#2252
On April 24 2016 05:18 gumshoe wrote:
Rels is scum

As we said, scum did want to save super day 1, but they had to balance that against the fact that super didnt really wanna save super day 1.

I’m going to compare the lines that rels had concerning super, vs the ones he had vs tumble

Show nested quote +
I don't understand your thinking there, 1st post is scummy and NAI at the same time ?


At the time of this post, sl, obi and rsoul are all already voting super, so him pressuring him around now is the sweet spot for a buss honestly.

Show nested quote +
Superbia's spamming spree is awful. The 1-line posts with random reads and no reasonning. Very different from what I expect from town!Superbia.


Show nested quote +
Jumping on the easy wagon too. Superbia might be scum


Show nested quote +
What do you make of the fact that Palmar was lynched D1 as town recently for playing like that ?


Show nested quote +
Superbia for being so his spree of posting reads with no explanation and not pushing anything. I think town!Superbia is more focused than that, like he was in his Palmar post actually, but the reasonning in his Palmar post is bad.


Show nested quote +
What changed with Superbia ?


Show nested quote +
Superbia is also likely to be scum, I don't believe in that "too scummy to be scum" thing rsoul and gumshoe has bought up. He made only 1 post that was more than 1 line, and that post was bad.


Comparitively this is what he had on tumble

Show nested quote +
gumshoe 90% of your big post on tumble is narrative that doesn't prove anything. The last bit is good though. If Tumble is scum, it is because he focused all his energy on rsoultin and almost none on anyone else, after Palmar started to push her.


For this first post he doesnt even agree with most of what I’ve been saying / :

Show nested quote +
Tumble for entering the thread late with a non believable excuse and being obsessed with rsoul, which would be the perfect lynch for mafia.


The excuse bit is nothing that doesn't pertain to super as well.

Show nested quote +
Almost every post of Tumble is focused on rsoul. It is after Palmar started his "lynch rsoul" thing, so there is the possibility that Tumble is scum jumping on that lynch. He also has a lot of reasons to scumread her.
Noted above, "rsoul townreads Rels even though she disagrees with him".


Of course alot of his reasons are focused on 1 person and of course they aren't that good. That kinda happens day 1 as theres not that much info out there so you tend to focus on your best bet which usually isnt that great because again, theres not much info out there.

Show nested quote +
So the post in bold doesn't actually exist. So Tumble is claiming a reason that cannot be true. It's impossible for a townie to make up a reason for what he has done things.


Blatantly wrong, townies can 100 percent make shit up and be wrong, I do that all the time. Mistakes are a symptom of the players skill, not his alignment.

In general I think it’s kind of clear that his arguments about super seemed to indicate scum (shitty posting, not really pushing anything)

Whereas his arguments against tumble indicated derp (shit excuse, dumb mistakes)

At the very least I don't think ether case is better than the other, yet hes certain which one he wants to pursue, never once voting super even when he was his only real scum read (before tumble).



right after the flip, he distanced himself almost immediately.

Show nested quote +
Scum”


Rels, like Onegu, had compelling reasons to vote super, but never did.

Also like Onegu he immediately distances himself from super for the rest of the game because scum know he's dead for sure, which is something I have missed till now, supers scum mates know for sure hes dead cause they already know how everything will play out, so right immediately after day 1 its buss buss city.

As for association between onegu and rels, obviously nothing rels says about onegu means anything because hes onegu, but heres some jems from onegu to rels

Show nested quote +
also rels is in this game? Dont remember anything from him…


Show nested quote +
Really need to look into obi and rels also. Guess tumble also since rsoul thought he was scum. JAS also since he is the lead wagon.


Das it.

Even though rels has also been calling for his head all game, even though rels also meta read him like me (which according to onegu means hes scum)-

Show nested quote +
Also people saying they can meta read me are scum. Gumshoe. Rels, Rsoultin.


-Onegu still cant be assed to push him.

alright thats all I got for now, gotta go bais.


So by this measure you are scum also got you. Wanted to save super didnt vote him day 1 and then changed the read on him after it was obvious he was being lynched. Gumshoe check and check.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:21 GMT
#2253
On April 24 2016 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 05:17 Onegu wrote:
On April 24 2016 04:43 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.




Dude, I posted I was sick and taking medicine or I would have sheeped palmar. He wanted to lynch Rsoul and I did too so we voted her, I wasnt around to change it. Second I never doubt myself. And I what you are saying doesnt make me scum at all. And how the hell does my sub read arrive after the point of relevancy it arrived night 1. And I never wavered on him I stayed on him the entire time because he scumslipped. And I dont fucking understand how you can blame me for my day one vote when you werent voting him either and even town reading him and put your vote on tumble.



I was wrong XD but I didnt know that : P you did.



I knew what?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 23 2016 20:22 GMT
#2254
On April 24 2016 05:19 Onegu wrote:
Your sub read arrived after mine so I dont understand how you can say this with a straight face.


of course I can, I was wrong 100 percent day 1. Thats what townies do, make mistakes, learn from thier mistakes evolve and improve.

Thats not what your doing, your stagnating, waddling in the muck, pursuing reads that have made no sense since day 1 and you haven't been given any reason to buy into.

If your town, you literally just made some random scum reads at the start of the game, saw them flip green one by one, yet kept pushing them. So yeah, I can easily accuse you with a straight face. Doing that right now.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 23 2016 20:22 GMT
#2255
On April 24 2016 05:21 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On April 24 2016 05:17 Onegu wrote:
On April 24 2016 04:43 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.




Dude, I posted I was sick and taking medicine or I would have sheeped palmar. He wanted to lynch Rsoul and I did too so we voted her, I wasnt around to change it. Second I never doubt myself. And I what you are saying doesnt make me scum at all. And how the hell does my sub read arrive after the point of relevancy it arrived night 1. And I never wavered on him I stayed on him the entire time because he scumslipped. And I dont fucking understand how you can blame me for my day one vote when you werent voting him either and even town reading him and put your vote on tumble.



I was wrong XD but I didnt know that : P you did.



I knew what?


that super was scum for sure? because you were scum?

townies fuck up because they dont have 100 percent info

scum dont, because they do.

How is this concept wierd to you?
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 23 2016 20:24 GMT
#2256
ya but hes so town it hurts your not onegu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:29 GMT
#2257
On April 24 2016 05:22 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 24 2016 05:19 Onegu wrote:
Your sub read arrived after mine so I dont understand how you can say this with a straight face.


of course I can, I was wrong 100 percent day 1. Thats what townies do, make mistakes, learn from thier mistakes evolve and improve.

Thats not what your doing, your stagnating, waddling in the muck, pursuing reads that have made no sense since day 1 and you haven't been given any reason to buy into.

If your town, you literally just made some random scum reads at the start of the game, saw them flip green one by one, yet kept pushing them. So yeah, I can easily accuse you with a straight face. Doing that right now.



You just made shit up all game. And changed reads when it fits into your agenda. I follow my gut and stay with it. You just want to look good after flips. You try to figure out who is going to be lynched then put yourself in the position that makes you look best after they flip. Even going so far as to waste your vote on me. This is kinda why I am not sure on tumble, one hand looks like you tried to save him, the other really seemed like you didnt care about who was being lynched.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:30 GMT
#2258
On April 24 2016 05:24 sicklucker wrote:
ya but hes so town it hurts your not onegu



Are you his scummate?
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 23 2016 20:32 GMT
#2259
On April 24 2016 05:18 gumshoe wrote:
Also like Onegu he immediately distances himself from super for the rest of the game because scum know he's dead for sure, which is something I have missed till now, supers scum mates know for sure hes dead cause they already know how everything will play out, so right immediately after day 1 its buss buss city.

I said that all fucking game and you just missed that?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
April 23 2016 20:35 GMT
#2260
Like SL and Rels both attacked me in the most moronic way possible for not ruling out that super could be real and I explained multiple times that scum was in full bus mode since day1.
And you just realize that now? And you have the nerve to yell at me all day?
Ok, gumshoe. Ok.
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